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You have no right to demoralize
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Juli'St✭✭✭✭FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »So the way these AD players think and behave. Now do yall ever wonder why they have troubles retaining numbers. They create more internal enemies then they do external enemies. Then get salty when those they have or tried to abuse leave them and farm them for pay back.
Payback is a what? Payback is a what? Yeah that's what I thought? Either shape up or ship out. No one wants play with a bunch of *** talking down on them the whole time just because they are new or isn't well known.
How many divisions of guilds have AD endured over this very same reason? I personally remember then one at the end of 2014 and the one in the middle of 2015. Damn guys it is sad to see you all have still not learn yalls lesson. And now yall want to try to force people to not be able to PvP and try to take the make believe high road. Over stupidity yall started yalls selves.
By the way it was much fun killing yall between the bridge and Sej, on my new build.
Fear, off here, but how name of your toon
(i cant remember) Edited by Juli'St on June 9, 2017 9:21PM0 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭How can AD be made up of both the biggest cheerleaders (Yay! We triumphed over the weaker factions for an epic victory!) and the biggest crybabies (boo hoo you took my scroll!)?
Scrolls are just a measure of faction e-peen. Ignore them and take some territory:5 -
Juli'St✭✭✭✭How can AD be made up of both the biggest cheerleaders (Yay! We triumphed over the weaker factions for an epic victory!) and the biggest crybabies (boo hoo you took my scroll!)?
Scrolls are just a measure of faction e-peen. Ignore them and take some territory:
As I said earlier, text interpretation is part of this topic and it is not addressed to a faction, exclusively.0 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭How can AD be made up of both the biggest cheerleaders (Yay! We triumphed over the weaker factions for an epic victory!) and the biggest crybabies (boo hoo you took my scroll!)?
Scrolls are just a measure of faction e-peen. Ignore them and take some territory:
As I said earlier, text interpretation is part of this topic and it is not addressed to a faction, exclusively.
All I'm saying, just play. Losses are temporary. Tides of the war change. Scrolls always come back eventually. Every faction has their time in the sunlight.3 -
Juli'St✭✭✭✭How can AD be made up of both the biggest cheerleaders (Yay! We triumphed over the weaker factions for an epic victory!) and the biggest crybabies (boo hoo you took my scroll!)?
Scrolls are just a measure of faction e-peen. Ignore them and take some territory:
As I said earlier, text interpretation is part of this topic and it is not addressed to a faction, exclusively.
All I'm saying, just play. Losses are temporary. Tides of the war change. Scrolls always come back eventually. Every faction has their time in the sunlight.
Agree about 'losses are temporary'.0 -
MoeCoastie✭✭✭Moe, sorry, here we discuss between adult's.
I dont know about that...only children blame someone else for them not enjoying a game.
I am an adult, the conversation you are trying to have is usually reserved for child and parent. Ive had my child come home from playing a sport and TRY to blame some other kid for not "playing nicely" or not allowing them to enjoy the game the way they feel they should enjoy it.
We are adults. what sort of adult playing a game asks for a chance, handicap, or headstart? Playing any game against another person or group is competition. Not in the sense that people on these boards like to define competition. Its not about manipulating the environment or social norms to display the perception of being equal. Its about each person internalizing the road to success and taking action. Stop pointing fingers3 -
Telel✭✭✭✭✭
✭How can AD be made up of both the biggest cheerleaders (Yay! We triumphed over the weaker factions for an epic victory!) and the biggest crybabies (boo hoo you took my scroll!)?
Scrolls are just a measure of faction e-peen. Ignore them and take some territory:
If you will excuse a humble khajiit their interjection then Telel must say this.
You may wish to go back through the long long history of threads on these forums and see which ones were made by players from the doberhuahua coverlet, and one singular individual of the Dumbminion. Telel can assure you that the former far outnumbers the latter.
You will also discover that certain players from a certain faction actively took steps to spread out over the servers when there was simply an overabundance of them in one spot. This was done at the request (and much elfish wailing) of players from a certain blue colored faction.
Why did they do this you ask? And why do many of these people have very stern rules about always being good sports? Well, that is perhaps because they actually mean it when they say they want the good fights, and aren't just here to farm easy kills.
But that is just humble conjecture on a humble khajiit's part.
But now fast forward a few months and do we see similar acts of sleekness from those who once had so much elf-hurt?
Not really no. Instead we see people who only want to go after the easy kills, and who actively hide from the hard fights trying to shame someone who can barely communicate with them.
Or at least that is Telel's view on the matter.
Character: Telel
Class: Night Blade-Werewolf-viking-ninja-catgirl-mallet wielder
Past times: Refusing to go full magika spec, hitting things with a big hammer, sniping, and speaking in khajiit
Also: Gelel the Derp Knight, Altsel the streaker, and Filafel the temp temp.
Khajiit has a twitch stream! https://twitch.tv/telel_khajiit feel free to come see how truly unskilled Telel is.2 -
caeliusstarbreaker✭✭✭✭✭
✭... and to be fair, the same was true for a DC scroll, when some AD just picked up the scroll to throw it into a lava hole. Just for 'farmar'. I find this very bad and not fun. It is mocking with the effort of others.
Yes, i really dont care if you, 'dirt PvP', dont like me... i care about campaigns, i care about new players, i care about all factions here, cause this game is fun, cause the campaign was fun, can be better. I learn this with time and experience in game.
Iskra.. you really shouldn't comment about demoralizing and other items in "bad taste" when you go around calling everyone names and accusing them of cheating just because your 7th destructive reach didn't CC the opponent with an immov pot up. The weirdest thing is, I've spoken to you calming on 3 separate occasions and we had a pleasant conversation and even exchanged positive tidings as we went our owns ways in a war. And I still get messages from you about this stuff. Your continued ignorant proliferations do you zero justice in your assertions for battlefield etiquette. Which is why you find yourself on my in game ignoer list. So with all due respect, seriously, dial it down man... everyone just thinks of you as a running joke at this point, and for the betterment of your psyche, breathe and count to dez, before you let your fingers fly.
-RhageRhage Lionpride DC Stamina Templar
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Juli'St✭✭✭✭caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »... and to be fair, the same was true for a DC scroll, when some AD just picked up the scroll to throw it into a lava hole. Just for 'farmar'. I find this very bad and not fun. It is mocking with the effort of others.
Yes, i really dont care if you, 'dirt PvP', dont like me... i care about campaigns, i care about new players, i care about all factions here, cause this game is fun, cause the campaign was fun, can be better. I learn this with time and experience in game.
Iskra.. you really shouldn't comment about demoralizing and other items in "bad taste" when you go around calling everyone names and accusing them of cheating just because your 7th destructive reach didn't CC the opponent with an immov pot up. The weirdest thing is, I've spoken to you calming on 3 separate occasions and we had a pleasant conversation and even exchanged positive tidings as we went our owns ways in a war. And I still get messages from you about this stuff. Your continued ignorant proliferations do you zero justice in your assertions for battlefield etiquette. Which is why you find yourself on my in game ignoer list. So with all due respect, seriously, dial it down man... everyone just thinks of you as a running joke at this point, and for the betterment of your psyche, breathe and count to dez, before you let your fingers fly.
-Rhage
First, dont make this topic a personal discuss. You have the support ESO if u want this, me too. Stay advice about. I really disagree about your PvP style and i have my rasons. But, about it, i talk in private, only.Edited by Juli'St on June 9, 2017 11:01PM0 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZoS just needs to open up a Spanish sub forum cause this is just painful to decrypt .2 -
MoeCoastie✭✭✭caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »... and to be fair, the same was true for a DC scroll, when some AD just picked up the scroll to throw it into a lava hole. Just for 'farmar'. I find this very bad and not fun. It is mocking with the effort of others.
Yes, i really dont care if you, 'dirt PvP', dont like me... i care about campaigns, i care about new players, i care about all factions here, cause this game is fun, cause the campaign was fun, can be better. I learn this with time and experience in game.
Iskra.. you really shouldn't comment about demoralizing and other items in "bad taste" when you go around calling everyone names and accusing them of cheating just because your 7th destructive reach didn't CC the opponent with an immov pot up. The weirdest thing is, I've spoken to you calming on 3 separate occasions and we had a pleasant conversation and even exchanged positive tidings as we went our owns ways in a war. And I still get messages from you about this stuff. Your continued ignorant proliferations do you zero justice in your assertions for battlefield etiquette. Which is why you find yourself on my in game ignoer list. So with all due respect, seriously, dial it down man... everyone just thinks of you as a running joke at this point, and for the betterment of your psyche, breathe and count to dez, before you let your fingers fly.
-Rhage
sorry, I have to agree with this guy here. Im in the same zone chat as you and Ive gotta say this guy is pretty accurate when describing your in-game demeanor. Saying that, it is quite hard for me to take your discussion on PvP ethics seriously when you display a severe lack of in-game. The way youre articulating your thoughts comes off as poor-sportsmanship and a sore loser.3 -
antihero727✭✭✭✭✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »Zergbad the Exterminator came to Tamriel advertising (it was his namesake afterall) that he single handedly will accost, demoralize, and ultimately exterminate the zergs gnawing like hungry rabid skeevers on the legs of our beloved mother Cyrodiil.
Needless to say, under Zergbad's watch zerging actually proliferated and became that much more of a menace. The zergs broke Zergbad's will and outlasted his Tamrielic soul.Should anyone who is a part of the Elder Scrolls Online community accept this?
Should I Publius Scipio accept his failure? A failure that strikes at the very name he carried in Tamriel. I'm not quite sure I should accept that kind of bull[snip]. Maybe I should sue him in the Wayrest courts.
His temperament and threats are his failure not his will to make alt accounts. [snip]
[edited for misinformation]Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on June 10, 2017 12:45AMVeldrn-AD Magica Sorc
Bizarro Veldrn-AD Stam Sorc
Antiherro-AD Stam DK
Antihero-AD Magplar
Aww Crit-AD Magblade
AD Since PC beta
On A lag free vacation
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Iskra , it is often easier to understand people speaking their native language then guessing what they are saying in a second language . Back on topic but I am guessing the topic is demanding other factions stop playing because one faction has low population . That's not going to happen and it is not even a reasonable request . Warfare follows the path of least resistance naturally .
Two things have happened . Marrowind just officially launched the other day and some PVP players left . No one can guess how long it will take for AD's PVP population to return from PVE or hiatus . This is why guilds don't like switching sides during these times to make balance and don't care if they run the map . The population may balance out next week or next month so making rash decisions is bad right now . Those factions will obviously take advantage of the situation to boost score . You may need to move to the no cp campaign were AD has a presence . Demanding factions play your way is just going to result in nothing .
This is the last time I'm going to bother to tell you because all you do is report people for misinterpreted posts [snip] when people try to help . You are not helping AD with these threads . You only help when you get in game and fight . I'm done .
[edited to remove misinformation]Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on June 10, 2017 2:01AM3 -
Juli'St✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Iskra , it is often easier to understand people speaking their native language then guessing what they are saying in a second language . Back on topic but I am guessing the topic is demanding other factions stop playing because one faction has low population . That's not going to happen and it is not even a reasonable request . Warfare follows the path of least resistance naturally .
Two things have happened . Marrowind just officially launched the other day and some PVP players left . No one can guess how long it will take for AD's PVP population to return from PVE or hiatus . This is why guilds don't like switching sides during these times to make balance and don't care if they run the map . The population may balance out next week or next month so making rash decisions is bad right now . Those factions will obviously take advantage of the situation to boost score . You may need to move to the no cp campaign were AD has a presence . Demanding factions play your way is just going to result in nothing .
This is the last time I'm going to bother to tell you because all you do is report people for misinterpreted posts when people try to help . You are not helping AD with these threads . You only help when you get in game and fight . I'm done .
some people understand this topic, i really dont understand what a [snip] say about 'spanish' forum. beguine respect me here, buddy!
[edited for profanity masking]Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on June 10, 2017 2:02AM0 -
Montayva✭✭✭✭Never take enemies scrolls? They're there to be taken for a reason! And quite frankly if a guild logs in to pvp one night and the opposing faction has one of their scrolls it really just gives them another objective to shoot for that evening and breaks things up a little.
You can't hold it against two other factions if one of the three factions has more player base active around the clock. Oceanic players get discriminated against ALOT for playing in their prime time and doing things like taking scrolls. Just like the other time zones though, those guilds do eventually log off and sleep and other guilds log on and pick up from where they left off. I fail to see how it considered 'demoralising' just by playing the game as it's intended.
I think you should pay more attention to the content of things instead of form, more attention, even to what is written - although but i can understand 'certain' difficulty of interpreting texts:
'Never take enemy scrolls if you have a lot of advantage'
So if my faction was last on the leaderboard and we had numbers to take scrolls/keeps/objectives I shouldn't?
The thing is, one faction is never outnumbered for long and it flip flops all the time. To make the most of scoring your faction needs to take advantage of things like scrolls, home keeps etc while they can, ESPECIALLY when you are trying to catch up on a leaderboard. There's no point playing to win a campaign otherwise.Montayva: EP, AD, DC Magplar | Mistress Montayva: AD, DC, EP Mag DK | Rharhey: EP, AD Mag Sorccrafters
Nirnrewt/ Nutella/Nirncrux: AD, EP, DC Stamblades+StamdensES Cosplayer wannabe
Beholder of the power to unleash the QAM HAM2 -
Ilpagliaccio✭✭✭How can we prevent demoralization for AD? Will creating a song thread dedicated to motivating AD PvDoorers help? If so, I'll take the first step:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjZxiHWPrZ4 1 -
Drdeath20✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's about time dc decided to attack undefended ad keeps.
Keep zerging 1 fraction and this is what happens.
Ad fighting tooth and nail for a freaking bridge.0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't get it.
You... Ugh there are so many more important....
Do players let other player's score in the NFL because it's too lopsided...
I just don't have the effort because what you're saying is absolutely absurd.
All my characters are AD1 -
Malveria✭✭✭✭Iskra is not an indication of AD's anything.
Except for our inability to permanently remove a pest.Venatus9 -
Juli'St✭✭✭✭Iskra is not an indication of AD's anything.
Except for our inability to permanently remove a pest.
Meredith is not a indication of AD's anything... and more, Malveria, here i talk for me. Try no make this some personal (like u make in game, all the time with MANY players because you insist on behaving like a general without an army ).Edited by Juli'St on June 10, 2017 3:39AM1 -
doublestuffed✭✭✭Step up your game. Stop your boo hoo posts. I barely saw EP do this when they lost every campaign for the past year. Seriously, I bet you fund Zennimax with all your bans.Cranking The Hog - Mag NB AD NA PC
Baby Sauce - Temp AD NA PC
Hysterical Paroxysm - Stam Sorc AD NA PC
Krotch -Krickets - Stam DK EP NA PC
Red Fingerpaint - Magsorc EP NA PC
Warm Regards - Stamplar EP NA PC1 -
olivesforge✭✭✭✭'Great pvp' is not what we are reading in AD zone chat, on the contrary, many agreeing with me. On your 'pvp lessons', save them for yourself.
Nobody agrees with you, Iskra - to the contrary, you've become a running joke. The only thing that you are effective at doing is getting AD to switch to their DC and EP alts so they can farm you all night. Which is good fun.
And that's not a personal attack, it's straight up tactics. You are helping DC and EP far more than anyone else. For example,FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »So the way these AD players think and behave. Now do yall ever wonder why they have troubles retaining numbers. They create more internal enemies then they do external enemies. Then get salty when those they have or tried to abuse leave them and farm them for pay back.
Payback is a what? Payback is a what? Yeah that's what I thought? Either shape up or ship out. No one wants play with a bunch of *** talking down on them the whole time just because they are new or isn't well known.
By the way it was much fun killing yall between the bridge and Sej, on my new build.
Or maybe...caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »Iskra.. you really shouldn't comment about demoralizing and other items in "bad taste" when you go around calling everyone names and accusing them of cheating just because your 7th destructive reach didn't CC the opponent with an immov pot up. The weirdest thing is, I've spoken to you calming on 3 separate occasions and we had a pleasant conversation and even exchanged positive tidings as we went our owns ways in a war. And I still get messages from you about this stuff. Your continued ignorant proliferations do you zero justice in your assertions for battlefield etiquette. Which is why you find yourself on my in game ignoer list. So with all due respect, seriously, dial it down man... everyone just thinks of you as a running joke at this point, and for the betterment of your psyche, breathe and count to dez, before you let your fingers fly.
-Rhage
Lionpride is catching on something I noticed here, which is that sometimes you're spamming zone chat, but other times we have good conversations. Almost as if there's more than one of you. Curious.Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Marrowind just officially launched the other day and some PVP players left . No one can guess how long it will take for AD's PVP population to return from PVE or hiatus . This is why guilds don't like switching sides during these times to make balance and don't care if they run the map . The population may balance out next week or next month so making rash decisions is bad right now . Those factions will obviously take advantage of the situation to boost score . You may need to move to the no cp campaign were AD has a presence . Demanding factions play your way is just going to result in nothing .
This is the last time I'm going to bother to tell you because all you do is report people for misinterpreted posts [snip] when people try to help . You are not helping AD with these threads . You only help when you get in game and fight . I'm done .
And Rohamad is quite right here - AD, for some reason, always seems to suffer the most when there's PvE/leveling to be had. In any event, every faction is dealing with a numbers issue for the next little while as the Morrowind impact settles down. As far as DD is concerned, we're barely running because we're farming... certain.... things and can't really be bothered right now. But that will change. Patience.
Ultimately, if you've got officers from Venatus, Vehemence, KHole, CoH and DD all on here agreeing about something... you're doing something titanically, profoundly and impressively wrong. This is something to consider. "A cada necio agrada su porrada."
PCNA | Aldmeri Dominion
OlivesForge / Swiss Army Templar | Twink of Insanity / Gankblade | Olivesisnotonfire / Annoying Sorc | E. Angus / Magicka Pigeon-Thrower | K. Angus / Stamina Pigeon-Thrower
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You do not have the right to demoralize a faction because you have extreme, absurd advantage in numbers.
Once a very old player told me - he was one of the first to start the game and PvP, the first Emperor: 'Never take enemy scrolls if you have a lot of advantage, because that discourages people from playing Cyrodiil, demoralizes the opponent'.I think he, Crown, was right to tell me that. It is very bad, as AD player, to see a spectacle about a terrible PvP, based on the 'joking and demoralization' of the opponent. Unfortunately, as I see it, ESO is dying on Cyrodiil and not because of an expansion, but for a type of PvP that does not help at all, it does not encourage players to play.
This opinion is shared by many, including EP / DC. I hope this changes.
http://imgur.com/a/rkhAW
Agreed. I've tried to zone chat D.C. out of taking home scrolls cause there's really not much point to it and it just promotes zergs taking them back. Not to mention we then lose the whole map because most of our force is busy trying to capture an ep home scroll. So dumb. But cyrodiil is a dumb place full of salt, exploits and sheep. It's mostly why I never group up and run either solo or with one friend and try to do or assist with the things that actually need to be done to win the campaign. Of course thanks to no faction account lock there's very little loyalty and not many actually care to play a campaign as it is intended to be played. Most would rather hit chalman and Roebeck incessantly to the point of campaign loss than do anything constructive.1 -
Telel✭✭✭✭✭
✭You do not have the right to demoralize a faction because you have extreme, absurd advantage in numbers.
Once a very old player told me - he was one of the first to start the game and PvP, the first Emperor: 'Never take enemy scrolls if you have a lot of advantage, because that discourages people from playing Cyrodiil, demoralizes the opponent'.I think he, Crown, was right to tell me that. It is very bad, as AD player, to see a spectacle about a terrible PvP, based on the 'joking and demoralization' of the opponent. Unfortunately, as I see it, ESO is dying on Cyrodiil and not because of an expansion, but for a type of PvP that does not help at all, it does not encourage players to play.
This opinion is shared by many, including EP / DC. I hope this changes.
http://imgur.com/a/rkhAW
Agreed. I've tried to zone chat D.C. out of taking home scrolls cause there's really not much point to it and it just promotes zergs taking them back. Not to mention we then lose the whole map because most of our force is busy trying to capture an ep home scroll. So dumb. But cyrodiil is a dumb place full of salt, exploits and sheep. It's mostly why I never group up and run either solo or with one friend and try to do or assist with the things that actually need to be done to win the campaign. Of course thanks to no faction account lock there's very little loyalty and not many actually care to play a campaign as it is intended to be played. Most would rather hit chalman and Roebeck incessantly to the point of campaign loss than do anything constructive.
If you come and hunt with khajiit you will be amongst wolves instead of sheep.
Also cats. So if you have allergies you will want to see your local alchemist for essence of sniffle resistance IX.
But those cats can also be wolves, and this makes things even better.Character: Telel
Class: Night Blade-Werewolf-viking-ninja-catgirl-mallet wielder
Past times: Refusing to go full magika spec, hitting things with a big hammer, sniping, and speaking in khajiit
Also: Gelel the Derp Knight, Altsel the streaker, and Filafel the temp temp.
Khajiit has a twitch stream! https://twitch.tv/telel_khajiit feel free to come see how truly unskilled Telel is.0 -
TipsyDrow✭✭✭✭I wonder how much AD frustration is due to reds queue exploiting...
What is this queue exploitation you speak of?Oooh, what do we have here? Another scrumptious young plaything straight out of life and into my club? Mmm... you smell new, little boy, like fabric softener dew on freshly mowed Astroturf. Oh, I'm not frightening you, am I, duckling?
Love, Mistress Pigtails0
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