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Little Annoyed About Hero Costumes being in the Dwarven Crown Crates.
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Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Rest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.0 -
Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
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Especially the housing items.SantieClaws wrote: »Khajiit she is more annoyed at the many crate hats and costumes that have never been in the crown store at all.
The apex mounts then fair enough this one expects them to be crate exclusive - but at least give us a chance to purchase honestly and cratelessly the other cosmetic items yes.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
I wish their marketing people would understand that offering things in more ways actually gets more sales and makes happier customers.
Don't you think that the marketing team has already thought of such a strategy, but has chosen the one that is best?Rest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.1 -
What are you ranting about I bought the Dro-M Athra senche mount for 4000 Crowns and its gonna be in the dwemer crown crates as a friend already got it from his 1 dwemer Morrowing pre-order crate. So it is even more unfair for us that people can obtain this mount for a lot less (100 gems).
I'm not against more people owning this mount (it is awesome) but the cost at which people will be getting it is ridiculous.Edited by rosendoichinoveb17_ESO on June 8, 2017 2:18PM0 -
Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »
I'm not agains more people owning this mount (it is awesome) but the cost at which people will be getting it is ridiculous.
Why?Rest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.0 -
Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Personofsecrets wrote: »
Especially the housing items.SantieClaws wrote: »Khajiit she is more annoyed at the many crate hats and costumes that have never been in the crown store at all.
The apex mounts then fair enough this one expects them to be crate exclusive - but at least give us a chance to purchase honestly and cratelessly the other cosmetic items yes.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
I wish their marketing people would understand that offering things in more ways actually gets more sales and makes happier customers.
Don't you think that the marketing team has already thought of such a strategy, but has chosen the one that is best?
Apparently random people on the internet who 99% of the time have no experience or knowledge in marketing know what's best. Not the multi-million dollar company who is swimming in the money. Always makes me laugh
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SHADOW2KK✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭And yet the world revolves upon its axis, regardless of this incredibly allegedly unfair event....
I got my hero costume ages ago, could not care less if it comes into more crates, let people do what they want.
Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.
Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..
Been enjoying PvP tears since 2014
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LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
LvL 50 - Sorcerer DC [PC-EU] = Daemon Lord = (Mag Sorc)
LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Khal-Bladez = (Mag DK)
LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Tenakha Khan = (Stam DK)
LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
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LvL 50 - Warden DC [PC-EU] = Crimson Blades = (Stamden)
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Mashille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I bought the breton hero costume when it was limited and it's a piece of junk anyway. Those who get it from the crates better be prepared to be disappointed
Oh don't even get me started on the Breton Costume...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/280267/yes-i-am-going-to-keep-hurling-abuse-at-the-breton-costume
I made this when it first came out, pictures aren't there anymore but still gets the point across ok.Edited by Mashille on June 8, 2017 2:24PMHouse Baratheon: 'Ours Is The Fury'0 -
Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Why does anyone care about this? It is just a game after all.Rest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.0 -
Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I bought the breton hero costume when it was limited and it's a piece of junk anyway. Those who get it from the crates better be prepared to be disappointed
Oh don't even get me started on the Breton Costume...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/280267/yes-i-am-going-to-keep-hurling-abuse-at-the-breton-costume
I made this when it first came out, pictures aren't there anymore but still gets the point across ok.
Haha I actually remember that thread ^^0 -
Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Personofsecrets wrote: »Repeat after me.
The sales and marketing team can do whatever they want.
Players don't get to decide how the Crown Store should work.
ZOS has to make money somehow - they are just doing the rational work that makes them the most cash and it is their right.
Did I miss any more of the overly-obvious statements that people tout around, as if they mean something profound when someone else takes issue with the games monetization, but feign to ignore when they personally don't like some small part of the monetization system?
I forgot one.
Nobody makes any of you buy this stuff. If you don't like the practice, then don't buy the goods.Rest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.1 -
Rouven✭✭✭✭✭
✭I see no problem here. For one, we had our chance at a direct purchase, which should have been the case I for every single Crown Crate collectible, or at the very least the non-themed ones, but unfortunately ZOS decided to go one of the most consumer-unfriendly way they could think of. Also, I would be willing to bet that 2000 for each is less than most people will pay to get them from the crates, save from some lucky draws.
As time goes by this statement becomes more and more incorrect for many people that are new(er) to the game (it already is for me as I was never offered the opportunity).
I think a lot of these systems are a bit ... less then optimal for a dynamic environment like this. Even the in-game luxury furnisher - doesn't have to be about the crown store.
The other train of thought - about showing the age of an account - should be from my point of view more used for in-game events.
I for myself though have accepted that I cannot apply the old style thinking of catching them all. That is reserved for in-game item I can earn through playing.Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. ~ Terry Pratchett0 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Personofsecrets wrote: »
I said it in that comment. The current system is incredibly consumer-unfriendly. One of the worsts I ever saw in a non-F2P game in my entire life, if not the worst. And it used to be even worse, before they allowed the exchange of consumables for gems.
Offering at least the non-themed stuff before shoving them in the crates would downright eliminate the opposition to the Crown Crates, it was the main feedback given since the begining. Consumer satisfaction is kinda relevant to a business too.
Besides, once they are gone from the store, they would become exclusive to the crates anyway. Only then people wouldn't have any grounds to complain, since they had a chance to get it the traditional way, even if for a short period of time.
Friendly reminder, the crates were first introduced as "a way to get stuff that isn't up for sale anymore". Only after bothering ZOS for a while we got them to say there would be non-themed exclusives in there, and only after the first batch hit the PTS we realized that a huge portion of the things in the crates were exclusive (well over half of them).Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0 -
SHADOW2KK✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Personofsecrets wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »Repeat after me.
The sales and marketing team can do whatever they want.
Players don't get to decide how the Crown Store should work.
ZOS has to make money somehow - they are just doing the rational work that makes them the most cash and it is their right.
Did I miss any more of the overly-obvious statements that people tout around, as if they mean something profound when someone else takes issue with the games monetization, but feign to ignore when they personally don't like some small part of the monetization system?
I forgot one.
Nobody makes any of you buy this stuff. If you don't like the practice, then don't buy the goods.
So thisOnce I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.
Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..
Been enjoying PvP tears since 2014
LvL 50 - Dragon Knight EP [PC-EU] = Illuvutar = Ex The Wabbajack = (Stam DK)
LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
LvL 50 - Sorcerer DC [PC-EU] = Daemon Lord = (Mag Sorc)
LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Khal-Bladez = (Mag DK)
LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Tenakha Khan = (Stam DK)
LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Malekith The Shadow = (Mag NB)
LvL 50 - Warden DC [PC-EU] = Crimson Blades = (Stamden)
Guild Master of The Bringers Of The Storm.
Harrods
Member Of The Old Guard
PC Closed Betas 2013
PC Mastah Race
Anook Page anook.com/shadow2kk
Been playing since Beta and Early Access0 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Personofsecrets wrote: »Why does anyone care about this? It is just a game after all.
Because this attitude you have will get us nowhere in regard to game quality. Why do you care about bugs or aesthetics? It's just a game!Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.1 -
Mashille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Why has this thread even popped up again anyway? It was posted quite a while ago. Edited by Mashille on June 8, 2017 2:32PMHouse Baratheon: 'Ours Is The Fury'0 -
makerofthings✭✭✭I personally I like the older costumes in the crates if that is the only way to get them now. I missed out on some of the outfits when I took a 2 year break from the game. Though I would prefer them just to be put back in the store for a limited time.0 -
BlackSparrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Honestly, I feel bad for the cosmetically-inclined players who are new to the game, because many of them never had the chance to get some of the great costumes that are now retired. The High-collared Ball Gown, the Treethane Ceremonial Dress, the cultural packs... All great items that are now locked off to new players because they didn't happen to be playing when those items were in the store.
I used to be active on another MMO where no cosmetic items were retired, ever. Browsing the costume store was glorious, because you'd scroll through hundreds of items (sorted by category) and see all options available. I miss that, and wish that was the in-store model that ZOS had implemented.
But it wasn't, so I'll make do with retired items being available in the Crates, at least for a limited period of time before the crate season ends. After those few months, they'll still be "exclusive" to the people who bought them, no more.Living vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
(Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)0 -
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✭i started a new account in september and didnt have the opportunity to get the costumes so on that note i am glad i have a chance on that particular account.1 -
BlackSparrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Where is the information on the content of the Dwarven Crates?
It hasn't been officially announced yet, but anyone who preordered Morrowind got a free Dwarven Crate, some of which have had hero costumes in them.
See this thread here.Living vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
(Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)0