Crown Crates shouldn't do this...

EldritchPenguin · December 2016

Rosveen wrote: »

Skcarkden wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Skcarkden wrote: »

1. What on earth are you even trying to get at with this?

I just looked it up, the exchange rate from USD to AUD is 1.38 (right now, at this moment). So, 40USD is, in fact, 55AUD. You know, what you were saying it cost, and when people corrected you... they were right, it's 40USD.

Or, put another way, the physical dollars in your wallet are worth less than the dollars in mine... if I had any physical cash in my wallet and didn't do everything with plastic these days.

It's also 36 Euro's But do i use Euro's? No, so why does this matter? it doesn't. neither does you telling me what it converts to.

I was talking about MY local currency, I don't need people correcting me to THEIR local currency because people like to always assume USD is all that exists and then correct people on the USD.

And no, they were not right, because when they corrected me i was referring to $50 in AUD, telling me it's then $40 after, means they are saying it's 40 AUD, when currency is not specified.

Infact it's actually $38.28 USD but it's not the point. Because I did not actually know what the AUD converted to in US at the time of making the comment, because i don't typically expect people to correct me based on a figure that can vary based on where you are or what platform you're using.

But that's the great thing about the internet, right? You can google a question about anything that can vary from country to country, and no one thinks to check which country the article is talking about.

You are the one who first said $50 without specifying that it's your local currency and not what people universally understand this symbol as: the US dollar. If you use anything other than default, it's your responsibility to inform others about it.

$50 US, $40 US, $38.75 US... Regardless of which one of those is actually is, it's still enough (or very nearly enough) for an entire AAA game on its own, and is quite a hefty price to pay for still probably not getting what you want anyway.

Getting in a firestorm over currency isn't really doing anything to push the argument one way or the other. It's more of a squabble over semantics than anything else.

Skcarkden · December 2016

starkerealm wrote: »

Skcarkden wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Skcarkden wrote: »

It's also 36 Euro's But do i use Euro's? No, so why does this matter?

It matters when you're flying off the handle and telling people they got the price wrong, in all caps, by the way, when they, in fact, quoted the correct price.

But they didn't?

The prices coincidentally happen to match up almost close, but that was realised AFTER the fact, not before or during.

This is why i quit playing Mafia games, anytime anyone playing was competent people assume they are mafia because they know how to play, then scream "SEE I TOLD YOU" when they turn out to be right for the wrong reasons.

@Glurin quoted the correct price.

As to that Mafia stuff... I don't even know what you're talking about anymore.

They 'corrected' me on something i said about my side of things with their side things, even though it's not that number here. They were wrong, It's 52.95 here, not 40. end of.

Rosveen wrote: »

You are the one who first said $50 without specifying that it's your local currency and not what people universally understand this symbol as: the US dollar. If you use anything other than default, it's your responsibility to inform others about it.

No, americans universally believe everything is USD because they still seem unaware the US isn't the only place on earth. It's why if you ask a bunch of people where they are from, the US guy names their state, while everyone else names their country.

Glurin corrected me, assuming i was American. I shouldn't need to specify each time "i'm not american stop assuming" every time, If it were the other way and i were about to comment on the number difference i can guarantee i would first ask about where they are because it might be a factor in the numerical difference. I would not do as he did and off the bat go "Actually it's 40" so ignorantly.

Rosveen · December 2016

Skcarkden wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

You are the one who first said $50 without specifying that it's your local currency and not what people universally understand this symbol as: the US dollar. If you use anything other than default, it's your responsibility to inform others about it.

No, americans universally believe everything is USD because they still seem unaware the US isn't the only place on earth. It's why if you ask a bunch of people where they are from, the US guy names their state, while everyone else names their country.

Glurin corrected me, assuming i was American. I shouldn't need to specify each time "i'm not american stop assuming" every time, If it were the other way and i were about to comment on the number difference i can guarantee i would first ask about where they are because it might be a factor in the numerical difference. I would not do as he did and off the bat go "Actually it's 40" so ignorantly.

It has nothing to do with Americans being self-centered and everything to do with the US being a global financial and cultural power. I'm not even American, I don't live in the anglosphere at all and for me and pretty much everyone I know in real life, dollar = United States. Especially here, on the official forum of an American company. I'm not trying to diminish Australia or any other country, just telling you how people are going to read it most of the time. We could abbreviate it to A$ to avoid confusion with other dollar-denominated currencies in the future.

Glurin · December 2016

Actually, international transactions have taken place using the USD as standard currency for a very long time. It's not just Americans who see $ and think USD. Not by a long shot.

And FYI, the reason US residents name their state rather than country is A ) The US is one of the larger countries on earth and B ) the US is a collection of individual States, not one single uniform country. You may not realize it, but that's kind of a big deal around here. An analog might be the EU. People don't say they are from the EU. They say they are from France or Germany or Great Britain (before they left).

luen79rwb17_ESO · December 2016

Hey guys don't turn this thread into a WW3. Everybody knows martians rules!

Anyway, back on topic, yeah Crown Crates suck so bad they even spoil the surprise of turning the cards. Conclusion, don't buy crown crates

Yolokin_Swagonborn · December 2016

Recremen wrote: »

Frankly they shouldn't exist at all. Things should be available on the Crown Store, not via gambling.

The only thing that needs to be said in this thread.

SquareSausage · December 2016

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Anyway, back on topic, yeah Crown Crates suck so bad they even spoil the surprise of turning the cards. Conclusion, don't buy crown crates

this haha

SanTii.92 · December 2016

Recremen wrote: »

Frankly they shouldn't exist at all. Things should be available on the Crown Store, not via gambling.

Off topic

I haven't notice this before, cuase ive opened very few myself but i definetly agree with you Op

Skcarkden · December 2016

Glurin wrote: »

Actually, international transactions have taken place using the USD as standard currency for a very long time. It's not just Americans who see $ and think USD. Not by a long shot.

And FYI, the reason US residents name their state rather than country is A ) The US is one of the larger countries on earth and B ) the US is a collection of individual States, not one single uniform country. You may not realize it, but that's kind of a big deal around here. An analog might be the EU. People don't say they are from the EU. They say they are from France or Germany or Great Britain (before they left).

Actually, international transactions have nothing to do with this. Unless you're trying to argue ignorance is the sole culprit for why you tried to correct me with misinformation. Fine, let's go with that. you win, i accept your apology.

France/Germany/Great Britain are not states.

If i were to ask a French person living in France, a German living in Germany and a Briton living in Britain and an American living in the US what country they all live in, while i won't be surprised when the American inevitably says Texas, it wasn't the question i asked.

Glurin · December 2016

Ok, so, you're either really not getting it, or you're trolling. If it's the former, you need to take a deep breath, do some research, and re-read everything that has been said up to this point. If it's the latter, I'm sure one of the mods will show up soon to clean that up.

In either case, I think we're done here unless the thread can get back on track.

Skcarkden · June 2017

Glurin wrote: »

Ok, so, you're either really not getting it, or you're trolling. If it's the former, you need to take a deep breath, do some research, and re-read everything that has been said up to this point. If it's the latter, I'm sure one of the mods will show up soon to clean that up.

In either case, I think we're done here unless the thread can get back on track.

So because i don't accept your absurdities i'm either an idiot or a troll? You attempted to correct me but were proven wrong and yet i'm the one at fault? Maybe it's because i'm not from the US, but when it comes to talks about things that are global, i would ask a question to clarify any differences before trying to make corrections. I'm not in Canada either, though i hear despite them also making use of the ($) Dollar icon that numbers can vary on prices for the same item, even when that number is converted it would still mismatch.

charlie_delta · June 2017

While I'm not a fan of gambling I like the barrier the crown crate system creates. The mounts and items have a level of rarity. The land is not overrun with apex mounts and crate costumes.

I use my monthly eso+ crowns on crates. The items I have won or purchased with the gems are a bit more special to me because everyone doesn't have them. That new dwarven mount has only just been released and they are everywhere. My storm atronach guar however I rarely see. I really don't want it on the crown store, part of its value is its rarity.

makerofthings · June 2017

I personally have no issue with the crown crates and like them in the game. For me it is not gambling, I expect to spend around 15000 crowns and get what I want from them. The upcoming new season is not for me so I will chose not to spend however if the next season tickles my fancy, then knuckles forward.

JimT722 · June 2017

charlie_delta wrote: »

While I'm not a fan of gambling I like the barrier the crown crate system creates. The mounts and items have a level of rarity. The land is not overrun with apex mounts and crate costumes.

I use my monthly eso+ crowns on crates. The items I have won or purchased with the gems are a bit more special to me because everyone doesn't have them. That new dwarven mount has only just been released and they are everywhere. My storm atronach guar however I rarely see. I really don't want it on the crown store, part of its value is its rarity.

I understand this feeling. I feel the same way about my striped senche-tiger on PS4. However, when I buy something that is the last thing I take into consideration. If I like it I will buy it. I don't care if everyone has one. I do enjoy gambling, but the price is really expensive and the odds it will include something I like is low.

My khajiit characters will use the striped senche tiger. My nord Warden is using a snow bear. I choose this based on what I like for the character, that is all.

As for crown crates, whatever makes people happy. I just won't. They seem like a greedy scam to me. I bought some for enveloping scales and rooster tail frills for my Argonian (style parlor beta before crown crates announcement hooked me on those, thanks ZOS:( ) but never again.

Ihatenightblades · June 2017

Recremen wrote: »

Frankly they shouldn't exist at all. Things should be available on the Crown Store, not via gambling.

I agree 100%

But who is the blame when a gambler gambles? Not the casino

Yarlenzey · June 2017

Skcarkden wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

Actually, 5500 crowns is about $40 when they aren't on sale and, like I said, compare what you get out of them to what it would cost individually. The crates in that 15 crate bundle work out to about 333 crowns or so each.

You open one and get:

Riding lesson. 100 crowns.
Crown repair kit. 40 crowns.
Five crown survivor elixirs. We'll ballpark that at 100 crowns.
Soul-Shriven Leather Outfit. We'll go cheap and say that's 500 crowns.

Hey, look at that! You're already 407 crowns ahead!

Let me start by simply saying you are absolutely WRONG. Okay? Don't like that? Stop being wrong then. Want a tip on how to not be wrong? Stop correcting people when you're wrong, and stop assuming that how you see things is how it is everywhere.

In Australia, and on PS4, 5500 Crowns is $52.95 AUD. For Xbox, from memory it's $40, but from what i've heard for the US it would be lower.

But either way... I'd like to not thank you, for incorrectly correcting me on something you were wrong about when correcting me. You didn't know. You thought you knew, but you didn't confirm it, instead you were like "Hey you know what, i don't know for certain but let me correct you with absolute authority on the matter because i'm defending devs"

I'd also like to not thank you for the fact you ignored my point about about other MMO's that also have this gambling nonsense are also cheaper too. I guess it would contradict your claim that it's not very expensive if you addressed the point that it's one the more expensive gambling microtransactions out there. for 30 crates in this game i could get 100 in another and trade/sell off whatever i don't want to keep in that one too.

I already have sould shriven outfits so for 500 crowns i get a couple useless crown gems. Such great value! (sarcasm by the way)

Oh, a riding lesson? Great! So glad there's no cap on mou- oh wait there is, 60/60/60 which i've hit, so another useless crown gem. repair kits? Oh right because everyone is so rich and just spend billios of real dollars on soulgems and repair kits so as to avoid spending game gold because gold's so tough to farm! (sarcasm again).

Value is subjective, even if it's given a solid number between crowns and crates. If i would never buy it with crowns directly, don't try to tell me i'm getting good value when i get stuck with it when i wanted something else instead.

I will NEVER make an Argonian character, but please, tell me how much value i've profited from when i get them as an unlucky gamble.

It's about as valid an argument as when my dad buys useless furniture ot cookware he'll never ever use but he 'saved' money cause it was on special. You can never save on anything you'll never use.

Not well said, but I agree mostly.
I don't like getting the same 'bravil golden retriever' 8 or 9 times in a fifteen-crate set.
If you pay 3 crown gems for an item; you will only get 1 crown gems when 'traded'

Some folk didn't notice the exchange rate issues. You possibly also missed the SPRING crate series was offered to half the world in Autumn.

OP - stop paying USD40 using Steam. Go to Zenimax store and pay AUD40 instead.
I was fecking annoyed when I saw that.

To be fair I had one 15 crate set give me four of the Spring Apex mounts...but way too many poisons and stupid outfits.

Skcarkden · June 2017

Yarlenzey wrote: »

Skcarkden wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

Actually, 5500 crowns is about $40 when they aren't on sale and, like I said, compare what you get out of them to what it would cost individually. The crates in that 15 crate bundle work out to about 333 crowns or so each.

You open one and get:

Riding lesson. 100 crowns.
Crown repair kit. 40 crowns.
Five crown survivor elixirs. We'll ballpark that at 100 crowns.
Soul-Shriven Leather Outfit. We'll go cheap and say that's 500 crowns.

Hey, look at that! You're already 407 crowns ahead!

Let me start by simply saying you are absolutely WRONG. Okay? Don't like that? Stop being wrong then. Want a tip on how to not be wrong? Stop correcting people when you're wrong, and stop assuming that how you see things is how it is everywhere.

In Australia, and on PS4, 5500 Crowns is $52.95 AUD. For Xbox, from memory it's $40, but from what i've heard for the US it would be lower.

But either way... I'd like to not thank you, for incorrectly correcting me on something you were wrong about when correcting me. You didn't know. You thought you knew, but you didn't confirm it, instead you were like "Hey you know what, i don't know for certain but let me correct you with absolute authority on the matter because i'm defending devs"

I'd also like to not thank you for the fact you ignored my point about about other MMO's that also have this gambling nonsense are also cheaper too. I guess it would contradict your claim that it's not very expensive if you addressed the point that it's one the more expensive gambling microtransactions out there. for 30 crates in this game i could get 100 in another and trade/sell off whatever i don't want to keep in that one too.

I already have sould shriven outfits so for 500 crowns i get a couple useless crown gems. Such great value! (sarcasm by the way)

Oh, a riding lesson? Great! So glad there's no cap on mou- oh wait there is, 60/60/60 which i've hit, so another useless crown gem. repair kits? Oh right because everyone is so rich and just spend billios of real dollars on soulgems and repair kits so as to avoid spending game gold because gold's so tough to farm! (sarcasm again).

Value is subjective, even if it's given a solid number between crowns and crates. If i would never buy it with crowns directly, don't try to tell me i'm getting good value when i get stuck with it when i wanted something else instead.

I will NEVER make an Argonian character, but please, tell me how much value i've profited from when i get them as an unlucky gamble.

It's about as valid an argument as when my dad buys useless furniture ot cookware he'll never ever use but he 'saved' money cause it was on special. You can never save on anything you'll never use.

Not well said, but I agree mostly.
I don't like getting the same 'bravil golden retriever' 8 or 9 times in a fifteen-crate set.
If you pay 3 crown gems for an item; you will only get 1 crown gems when 'traded'

Some folk didn't notice the exchange rate issues. You possibly also missed the SPRING crate series was offered to half the world in Autumn.

OP - stop paying USD40 using Steam. Go to Zenimax store and pay AUD40 instead.
I was fecking annoyed when I saw that.

To be fair I had one 15 crate set give me four of the Spring Apex mounts...but way too many poisons and stupid outfits.

I'm not the OP of this topic, and like Glurin if you asked (or read) before stating, I'm not on PC (Thus can't be on Steam), i'm on PS4, which is $52.95 AUD. Which is stated in the very quote of mine you quoted while saying not to use steam.

Interestingly enough, I believe for Xbox one can buy crowns for $40. No idea why Sony are charging more.

Insandros · June 2017

I personaly love it, i go, oohh cool a special card when it shines, then after it's ok, now let see what it's hidding!

NewBlacksmurf · June 2017

Thing is...it's not random, it's computer generated so WHY aren't they turned up in the first place. Flipping them doesn't change any result

ZOS_Bill · June 2017

As this thread is from several months ago it is a necro and being closed. You are welcome to start a new thread if you wish to continue the commentary.