Victoria_Marquis wrote: »

ESO should bring back the Dwemer, it's time we get a new race in the game. Well old race... Eh ... Return of the Dwemer.

From what little I've read from lore, the Dwemer are not extinct, but open a portal to a new realm. So they could easily come back to Tamrial.

They can't return because we know they didn't. ESO takes place 800 years before the mainline TES games and by that point in the future, Vivec didn't find any trace of the Dwemer, neither on Mundus not in the Outer Realms.

This also suggests they aren't simply hiding in another realm. They vanished; there are several theories as to how and to where, but none of them allow for easy return to Mundus (if it's even possible at all, because they might very well all be dead).

But most importantly: the primary appeal of the Dwemer are their mysteries. If they come back to answer all our questions, the magic will be gone. I hope it never happens.

SantieClaws wrote: »

Warbow7 wrote: »

Yagrum Bagarn is the last known living Dwemer. Not sure if he is in the ESO morrowind timeline.

Khajiit thinks she may have seen him wearing about 12 different outfits in Belkarth last night yes.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

I too have seen him wandering around Tamriel recently, it would appear he cured his Corprus disease or has not contracted it yet

I seen a dwarf. I did. It was late in the middle of the night. Me and Bornn were wandering by the farm hunting skeevers when loe and behold, der it was, a dwarf. He was holding a big ax, stroking his beard, and drinking a full mug of stout. He pointed his index finger at me and said something in his dweemish like language. Bornn grabbed his hammer and chased after him, but the little bugger was faster than a guar during solstice. Reported it to the local constable, and he said he'd chased one, too, a long time ago before he took an arrow in the knee and couldn't chase them any more.

sarbonn wrote: »

I seen a dwarf. I did. It was late in the middle of the night. Me and Bornn were wandering by the farm hunting skeevers when loe and behold, der it was, a dwarf. He was holding a big ax, stroking his beard, and drinking a full mug of stout. He pointed his index finger at me and said something in his dweemish like language. Bornn grabbed his hammer and chased after him, but the little bugger was faster than a guar during solstice. Reported it to the local constable, and he said he'd chased one, too, a long time ago before he took an arrow in the knee and couldn't chase them any more.

I fear it is the mead talking with this one. Billy is no constabler either, but he did take an arrow, just not to the knee. He lives in his own pocket dimension ever since if you catch my drift.
Some even say those dwarves always carry a pot of gold with them, can you believe it. Some blame them for losing their shoes or more.

I think it would be some interesting story to find out that the dwemer were half-breeds. Between the Dwarves we all know, and some other race of surface dwellers. Due to this fact, and the stealing of some of the purebred Dwarven technology, they were killed off by the racists Dwarves from within the Hollow Nirn. This lead to the great tech war between the Dwarves, and the Gnomes. The Gnomes were greatly horrified by the slaughter of those innocent Dwemer. These battles underfoot are why the volcanos have been erupting as they have been.

tclark_ESO wrote: »

I think it would be some interesting story to find out that the dwemer were half-breeds. Between the Dwarves we all know, and some other race of surface dwellers. Due to this fact, and the stealing of some of the purebred Dwarven technology, they were killed off by the racists Dwarves from within the Hollow Nirn. This lead to the great tech war between the Dwarves, and the Gnomes. The Gnomes were greatly horrified by the slaughter of those innocent Dwemer. These battles underfoot are why the volcanos have been erupting as they have been.

Ummmmm.... No......Just NO...
First off, there are no Gnomes on Nirn nor anywhere else in Mundas.
Next, the TES lore is already established and goes back 20 years.It's lore is older and more in depth than WoW or most any other game.
I TRULEY suggest you consult some Lore Sites and Videos. ShoddyCast has a great series.
One thing you will find here is that TES Lore is important and ideas like that while may be cool in your eyes, has no place in this universe.
May your journey of TES Enlightenment begin...'Huzzah!

Note: And "Dwarves" is just a Nedic name for the "Dwemer", Elves from Aldmeris, who are later called "The Deep Elves".

Rouven wrote: »

Kaide wrote: »

Hopefully Dwarves will be a playable race in the future....

Are you thinking along the lines of Marvel ... bringing all together? Like the Horde could invade Tamriel while the Space Marines attack the Siths Headquarters, He-Man singing a duet with Gandalf in the background?

The world server would crash!

Are you guys also saying that the Dwemer are not capable of building time traveling machines? In the glorious World of Warcraft.....when a new race was needed a space ship full of goats crashed landed into the planet. I do not understand why we can't do the same thing here. Except it makes more sense in this storyline...since maybe all the Dwarves left because they built a giant spaceship and will return in the future after exploring the galaxy.

Kaide wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

Kaide wrote: »

Hopefully Dwarves will be a playable race in the future....

Are you thinking along the lines of Marvel ... bringing all together? Like the Horde could invade Tamriel while the Space Marines attack the Siths Headquarters, He-Man singing a duet with Gandalf in the background?

The world server would crash!

Are you guys also saying that the Dwemer are not capable of building time traveling machines? In the glorious World of Warcraft.....when a new race was needed a space ship full of goats crashed landed into the planet. I do not understand why we can't do the same thing here. Except it makes more sense in this storyline...since maybe all the Dwarves left because they built a giant spaceship and will return in the future after exploring the galaxy.

For the love of Akatosh, NO! Please!!
Please realize this isn't WoW, THANK THE DIVINES!
IMO, WoW lore is crap and cant't compare to TES lore.
You REALLY need to learn about TES lore before posting such ideas. Try this:
https://www.imperial-library.info/

It has 20 years and 3,000+ in game books of TES lore.
You can't just change the lore of 10 games & 20 years of lore!
Comparing TES to WoW is like comparing Tolkien to a Saturday Morning Cartoon..
Just my 2 septims...
(And yes, Troll Bait taken...lmao)

raj72616a wrote: »

obvious troll

Kaide wrote: »

I know the timelines don't match up as the Dwemer disappeared at the end of the Battle for Red Mountain. But it would be interesting if the Dwemer as a race had attained ascension and as a race were transformed into the Daedra.

Couldn't the Dwemer build time traveling machines and get stuck in the past? Making Dwemer a playable ESO race? This could change all the games in ESO forever....once the Dwemer time traveled to the past.....every future Elder Scrolls game can be simply a tranformed version of the old one. For instance....in this new time line we will see Dwemer all over Skyrim.

The Dwemer disappeared in the First Era, ESO is happening in the Second. If they time-traveled to the past, they'd still be extinct today.

Faulgor wrote: »

Kaide wrote: »

....and when I heard that Dwarves were coming to Elder Scrolls Online

Where did you hear such a thing?

Dwarves have been extinct in Elder Scrolls for a very long time. They were also nothing like Tolkien/WoW Dwarves, except for living underground perhaps.

There's a, "leak," running around on 4chan claiming that TES7 will see the Dwemer return. I'd say, "look it up, if you're curious," but honestly the content doesn't pass a scratch and sniff test.

Kaide wrote: »

Rouven wrote: »

Kaide wrote: »

Hopefully Dwarves will be a playable race in the future....

Are you thinking along the lines of Marvel ... bringing all together? Like the Horde could invade Tamriel while the Space Marines attack the Siths Headquarters, He-Man singing a duet with Gandalf in the background?

The world server would crash!

Are you guys also saying that the Dwemer are not capable of building time traveling machines? In the glorious World of Warcraft.....when a new race was needed a space ship full of goats crashed landed into the planet. I do not understand why we can't do the same thing here. Except it makes more sense in this storyline...since maybe all the Dwarves left because they built a giant spaceship and will return in the future after exploring the galaxy.

Something that's... probably, worth remembering about Warcraft and where it pulls it's tone: Warcraft began life as a serial numbers filed off version of Warhammer Fantasy Battles. There's a lot of of distinction, The Orcs (now The Horde) weren't the Greenskins, except they kinda were. The Alliance wasn't the Empire, with the High Elves and Dwarves mixed in... except they kinda were. Moving forward into WC3, the Undead aren't the Tomb Kings, except they kinda are, the Night Elves aren't the Wood Elves, except, you know, they kinda are. The Burning Legion isn't Chaos... except that's the part where this gets weird.

See, Warhammer: Fantasy and Warhammer 40k aren't exactly different settings. They don't interconnect directly, but Chaos Daemons cross back and forth pretty indiscriminately. Now, Starcraft doesn't have The Burning Legion. I mean, the Terrans aren't exactly Space Marines, the Protoss aren't exactly the Eldar, and the Zerg aren't exactly 'nids. But, it's all just close enough that when Warcraft starts pulling out Sci-Fi elements, you really shouldn't be surprised.

The Elder Scrolls, on the other hand? Not so much. There is no Sci-Fi take on TES. TES really isn't supposed to be tied into a Sci-fi setting the way Warhammer and (by extension), Warcraft are.

Also, these aren't the dwarves you're looking for. The Elder Scroll's Dwemer aren't that different looking from the Altmer. They're aggressive, xenophobic, and downright sadistic. If you need to put them in a context you're familiar with, they're more in line with Dungeons and Dragon's Dark Elves (with less of the spider obsession, and more of a technical focus). Not angry, heavily armed, Scottish stereotypes.

sarbonn wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

There are (as far as I know) no actual dwarves in the Elder Scrolls universe. The Dwemer were actually another race of elves (yes, elves!)

Story (I can't confirm) goes a race of giants met them and since they were small in comparison, they came to be called dwarves. Supposedly the dwemer/dwarves were actually of average height compared to the other major races in Tamriel. Taller than the wood elves.

There is one actually. The Yagrum guy (someone posted a picture of him earlier). Forget which ES he shows up in, but I definitely remember running across him at one point. He's like the survivor of their race (way past their time).

He's under Tel Fyr in TES3: Morrowind. There've also been a handful of ghosts you could talk to. One in Tribunal, and one in ESO.

Warbow7 wrote: »

Yagrum Bagarn is the last known living Dwemer. Not sure if he is in the ESO morrowind timeline.

Doesn't get more 'Murica than this lol