The Thing That Depresses Me Most About ESO ...

KerinKor · June 2017

... is that it means we'll never see another 'ES' title worthy of the name.

I don't see any prospect of getting a TES 6 as I'm sure Zenimax Inc. won't want to lose the large number of players from ESO who would inevitably jump at the chance of playing another 'real' TES game .. all Bethesda have been allowed to do is come up with Skyrim SE which while not bad is hardly an improvement over the original considering the vast number of mods which make it look and play far better than SSE.

/sadface

Turelus · June 2017

There will be a TES6 because it will make them hands down more money than ESO updates will.

Bethesda have even said TES6 will happen they just have no news of plans right now (although don't they always say that?)

You'll get TES6 don't worry.

KerinKor · June 2017

I know there's a TES 6 mooted: http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a787639/the-elder-scrolls-6-release-date-news-valenwood-location-and-everything-you-need-to-know/

I don't expect to ever see it, not until ESO is closed anyway.

zaria · June 2017

Yes, solution is fairly simple, you do TES 6, then follow up with an ESO expansion to bring back players then you are done with the TES 6 DLC.

Warcraft and WOW is different as WOW is far larger than Warcraft, while Skyrim was larger than ESO,
they also made it very hard to put in an warcraft 4 game who don't crash with WOW timeline but an reboot should work.

JasonSilverSpring · June 2017

Turelus wrote: »

There will be a TES6 because it will make them hands down more money than ESO updates will.

Bethesda have even said TES6 will happen they just have no news of plans right now (although don't they always say that?)

You'll get TES6 don't worry.

Agreed. TES6 will out sell ESO for sure unless they totally butcher the marketing. They might have delayed it some but I am not sure that was done because of ESO. Bethesda has said they are working on other projects.

I, for one, am eagerly waiting for Fallout 4 in VR.

Sausage · June 2017

They gotta expand to TV-shows, what Ive said. After Game of Thrones its excellent move and ES series isnt ready for Movie. On TV, they can really put the ES-feel to totally new heights.

KerinKor · June 2017

Always keep in mind, Bethesda isn't in control, Zenimax Inc call the shots .. they own bothe Bethesda and ZOS .. and they were the ones who demanded a TES MMO in the first place, do you REALLY think they'll allow Bethesda to show ZOS how to do a REAL TES game while ESO still makes money?

Not a chance.

Turelus · June 2017

JasonSilverSpring wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

There will be a TES6 because it will make them hands down more money than ESO updates will.

Bethesda have even said TES6 will happen they just have no news of plans right now (although don't they always say that?)

You'll get TES6 don't worry.

Agreed. TES6 will out sell ESO for sure unless they totally butcher the marketing. They might have delayed it some but I am not sure that was done because of ESO. Bethesda has said they are working on other projects.

I, for one, am eagerly waiting for Fallout 4 in VR.

What marketing do they even need at this point?

Todd Howard could walk onto stage go "TES VI, Pre-order here!" and they'd have millions over night.

Bethesda's game have become HUGE and have an insane following now. If Skyrim and Fallout 4 have shown anything it's that people will buy up their stuff like crazy.

Also re all the potential leaks in the past I am fully behind the idea of TES VI: Valenwood being the game.
That normal TES thing of adding the number into the name, VI -> V a I -> Valenwood

If they miss this chance it won't come again.

Sausage · June 2017

KerinKor wrote: »

Always keep in mind, Bethesda isn't in control, Zenimax Inc call the shots .. they own bothe Bethesda and ZOS .. and they were the ones who demanded a TES MMO in the first place, do you REALLY think they'll allow Bethesda to show ZOS how to do a REAL TES game while ESO still makes money?

Not a chance.

They can cry themselves into the river or do TV-series. We all can agree ESO wasnt the best success, so yup, keep pushing, boldly than never before.

MarkusLiberty · June 2017

Another Elder Scrolls main series game will bring ESO tons of new players, so they will naturally want a TESVI at some point.

Belidos · June 2017

zaria wrote: »

Yes, solution is fairly simple, you do TES 6, then follow up with an ESO expansion to bring back players then you are done with the TES 6 DLC.

Warcraft and WOW is different as WOW is far larger than Warcraft, while Skyrim was larger than ESO,
they also made it very hard to put in an warcraft 4 game who don't crash with WOW timeline but an reboot should work.

They also technically no longer have the rights to single player Warcraft games without authorization from Vivendi, that went out the window when bought themselves back off of Vivendi and they became an independent company.

JasonSilverSpring · June 2017

KerinKor wrote: »

Always keep in mind, Bethesda isn't in control, Zenimax Inc call the shots .. they own bothe Bethesda and ZOS .. and they were the ones who demanded a TES MMO in the first place, do you REALLY think they'll allow Bethesda to show ZOS how to do a REAL TES game while ESO still makes money?

Not a chance.

Yes, I do think they will allow it because they probably know TES6 will out sell ESO. I am sure they will time it's ultimate release so that it is not when a new chapter of ESO is coming out.

I think they may have put focus on other projects to let ESO release Morrowind, but in a few years I would expect we will see TES6.

Mordenkainen · June 2017

Wouldn't even label ESO as 'ES worthy' game.

It maybe was in the beginning but this turned more into "casual/hardcore" (what moron came up with this crap to begin with?) gamer comparison online and the lore is practically bleeding out of its back with all the mistakes in the game.

Pretty sure there'll be an Elder Scrolls 6. There's so much potential in this still. And Bethesda is (hopefully) not going to drop their most valuable child.

tinythinker · June 2017

Final Fantasy XIV (MMORPG) is getting an expansion this month even though Final Fanal Fantasy XV (single-player) was released in November. Having an active and successful MMORPG in a long-running game series doesn't preclude releasing more single-player games in that series.

Lavennin · June 2017

TES 6? Will happen. TES 6 with co-op? Another story.

People desperately wanted to play Skyrim with their friends, so they bought ESO. So TES 6 is not a threat. But if it's going to have multiplayer functionality, then we will see a major player loss...

I really thought 6 would be the magical number, like it's finally time for them to add multiplayer support. But now I think the chance is slim.

zaria · June 2017

Lavennin wrote: »

TES 6? Will happen. TES 6 with co-op? Another story.

People desperately wanted to play Skyrim with their friends, so they bought ESO. So TES 6 is not a threat. But if it's going to have multiplayer functionality, then we will see a major player loss...

I really thought 6 would be the magical number, like it's finally time for them to add multiplayer support. But now I think the chance is slim.

Yes, an multi player TES game would be more of an threat to ESO than an single player game, it would also require changes to a lot of the framework, more than an engine change to do it well. Example, cast a fireball or use an dragon shout on an pile of stuff in Skyrim, things fly all over even roll down hills, now make this work the same way on multiple computers.

stewhead2ub17_ESO · June 2017

Comparing a MMO to a single player RPG is apples to oranges. There is, and certainly has been, room for both genres.While I'm not a tech guy, I think they would involve separate teams working on these projects. I suspect that there are many people who enjoy MMO's but not single player RPG's and vice versa, so it widens the potential customer market for both, and I believe I recently saw a job posting for Bethesda to work on an "unnamed" AAA title.

theher0not · June 2017

Turelus wrote: »

There will be a TES6 because it will make them hands down more money than ESO updates will.

Bethesda have even said TES6 will happen they just have no news of plans right now (although don't they always say that?)

You'll get TES6 don't worry.

Didn't they say that they are working on a new engine and won't make TES6 until it is done?

That is at least what I heard.

Turelus · June 2017

theher0not wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

There will be a TES6 because it will make them hands down more money than ESO updates will.

Bethesda have even said TES6 will happen they just have no news of plans right now (although don't they always say that?)

You'll get TES6 don't worry.

Didn't they say that they are working on a new engine and won't make TES6 until it is done?

That is at least what I heard.

I remember the same, but you have to believe they have some people somewhere doing the outline, I mean Fallout 4 was being "worked on" throughout Skyrim apparently, just not in development stage.

I know in the past Bethesda said they wanted a Sci-Fi series as well in their normal style, I do wonder if their new game will be that. Now seems like the right time as they can recover from a flop with TES VI or add a new hit series to their list.

Shad0wfire99 · June 2017

KerinKor wrote: »

I know there's a TES 6 mooted: http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a787639/the-elder-scrolls-6-release-date-news-valenwood-location-and-everything-you-need-to-know/

I don't expect to ever see it, not until ESO is closed anyway.

Skyrim was one of the biggest video game hits of all time. Why on earth would you not expect them to release TES6? Zenimax/Bethesda would make a metric ***-ton more money from that than they ever have or ever will from ESO.

watts320 · June 2017

What upsets me about eso morrowind is im avin to walk across the map to a new area just to talk to someone just to come back were i come from like im a messenger.

DaiKahn · June 2017

JasonSilverSpring wrote: »

...I, for one, am eagerly waiting for Fallout 4 in VR...

So am I! You have an Oculus Rift or an HTC Vive? What do you think of them?

SASQUATCH0 · June 2017

They're definitely gonna make TES6 guys come on. They're not gonna end a franchise on an mmo that has a completely different play style than a single player rpg

Abeille · June 2017

SASQUATCH0 wrote: »

They're definitely gonna make TES6 guys come on. They're not gonna end a franchise on an mmo that has a completely different play style than a single player rpg

Yeah, who would do that? Nobody would do that!
*Cries over my old Warcraft collection*

Seriously though, they are well aware that a single player TES would make them an obscenely high amount of money. And they can tie it in with the release of a ESO Expansion or DLC themed after the single player release.

Darkstorne · June 2017

KerinKor wrote: »

I know there's a TES 6 mooted: http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a787639/the-elder-scrolls-6-release-date-news-valenwood-location-and-everything-you-need-to-know/

I don't expect to ever see it, not until ESO is closed anyway.

Don't buy into any rumours about location or release date. There are far too many right now, with no substantial evidence to back them up. Only Hammerfell has any basis because of the new trademark on "Redguard" filed back in 2011, which was separate from the old TES Adventures trademark of the same name. But TES6 is so far away it could be anything.

The facts:

Todd Howard has said it's happening, but not for a very long time. He specifically said the tech for what he wants to do doesn't exist yet (so PS5 gen at the earliest), and that he has two other big AAA projects that will release before TES6 does.
He confirmed Bethesda's next big game is a brand new IP, likely to be called Starfield due to the trademark, probably being announced at Bethesda's E3 conference.
Pete Hines (Bethesda Softworks) made it perfectly clear in a blunt tweet: "We aren't working on TES6 at the moment."

Appleblade · June 2017

Uh huh.

ZOS Suit: You can''t do anymore single player Elder Scrolls
Todd Howard: FUS RO DAH!
ZOS Suit: (Blasted out 10th story window) I regret all my life chouces.

Uncle_Sweetshare · June 2017

To be fair ESO could easily give WoW a run for its money if ZOS stopped making *** poor decisions at every turn.

inb4 someone asks what decisions and I have to spend 30 minutes writing a list.

BlackSparrow · June 2017

There will definitely be a TES6. TES is a huge cash cow at this point, and while an MMO can be strung along as long as there is a player base, a big-name game like TES (especially if they don't add online multiplayer or anything else that requires much ongoing maintenance) is a huge income injection.

Really, my worry about TES6 is that the company will kill ESO when it comes out, either directly or indirectly, to try to drive sales to the New and Shiny Thing.

Kay1 · June 2017

KerinKor wrote: »

I know there's a TES 6 mooted: http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a787639/the-elder-scrolls-6-release-date-news-valenwood-location-and-everything-you-need-to-know/

I don't expect to ever see it, not until ESO is closed anyway.

Since when this game is from Bethesda?

This game is ruled by Zenimax and they have practically nothing to do with TES series.

Wicked_Wolf · June 2017

Lavennin wrote: »

TES 6? Will happen. TES 6 with co-op? Another story.

People desperately wanted to play Skyrim with their friends, so they bought ESO. So TES 6 is not a threat. But if it's going to have multiplayer functionality, then we will see a major player loss...

I really thought 6 would be the magical number, like it's finally time for them to add multiplayer support. But now I think the chance is slim.

I truly hope this never happens. Adding co op/multi functionality just takes away from what the TES series has been for the past five games. It's a world for you to get lost in. I hope they don't change the formula.

necronomniconb14_ESO · June 2017

6 will be the creation kit itself with an esm and some bsa for resources to pull from when we design pieces of the game ourselves to be sold on bethesda.net over and over for people dumb and/or groomed enough to actually pay for it