Executes are doing no damage most of the time

ArgonianAustin · June 2017

Since the drop of morrowind executes are doing a norm of 5-7k crits on execute range. Before the update I got 10k min, even 15k+ executes. This is happening to my brother too. We dueled and I slotted the two-hander execute and killers blade both got 6k crits. It was always 10k+ on each other. Our damage has actually gone up. Its just the executes. Anyone else noticing low damage on executes?

Morgul667 · June 2017

Havent noticed but will check it tonight

Vapirko · June 2017

Didnt crits get nerfed? Maybe Im wrong.

ArgonianAustin · June 2017

Vapirko wrote: »

Didnt crits get nerfed? Maybe Im wrong.

But my incaps, surprise attacks, etc. All higher but not executes.

djdc1234 · June 2017

This post made my *** shrivel up inside me... Thanks..

Olupajmibanan · June 2017

Scaling executes work fine, including Radiant Oppression, Poison Injection and Reverse Slice.
Mages Wrath also correctly explodes on low health target and the damage is +-same as before.

SquareSausage · June 2017

Known bug already on PC.

ArgonianAustin · June 2017

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

Scaling executes work fine, including Radiant Oppression, Poison Injection and Reverse Slice.
Mages Wrath also correctly explodes on low health target and the damage is +-same as before.

Weird, I unslotted my execute because my surprise attacks are hitting harder. This wasn't a problem before the update. Very random.

Sakiri · June 2017

Mine seems to be working fine, but I'm using the other morph. It might be specific to impale.

F7sus4 · June 2017

PC EU. Didn't notice anything wrong with neither Impale nor Mages' Wrath nor Radiant Oppression.

ArgonianAustin · June 2017

F7sus4 wrote: »

PC EU. Didn't notice anything wrong with neither Impale nor Mages' Wrath nor Radiant Oppression.

Yeah I think its just killers blade and executioner.
Just got a 3k on a sorc. Should have been 13k

makreth · June 2017

are they max rank (rank4) or are they lower?

ArgonianAustin · June 2017

Ok on my death recaps I have been seeing 3k impales and executioners. This can't be the new execute damage. Why slot an execute if my surprise attack hits harder. I miss my 5 digit killers blade. How can my incaps, SA, ambushes, poison injects do increased damage from my new set up for this patch but have 1 of the hardest hitting skills turn into barely light attack damage. I did get a 15k killers blade today but it was only once, 9/10 times its below 7k.

ArgonianAustin · June 2017

makreth wrote: »

are they max rank (rank4) or are they lower?

Yeah rank 4

Peekachu99 · June 2017

If you're doing 10K (pre MW) with an execute there's something wrong with your build; issues that will be compounded in Morrowind. I can get 15-20K per tick of radiant on my tank.

Sigma957 · June 2017

My executes are doing just fine, impale doing over 22k each hit when in execute range.

Berenhir · June 2017

Several executes are bugged as of now, though this might be working as intended and just be a nerf for non-sorcs. The scaling now only affects the base damage value, so any % damage buffs are not increased by 300% but applied additively with the executioner.

So before update, assuming 25% damage increase from cp etc.:
5K tooltip * 1,25 * 4 = 25K damage

after update
5K tooltip * (1,25 + 3) = 21,25K damage

Alcast · June 2017

Berenhir wrote: »

Several executes are bugged as of now, though this might be working as intended and just be a nerf for non-sorcs. The scaling now only affects the base damage value, so any % damage buffs are not increased by 300% but applied additively with the executioner.

So before update, assuming 25% damage increase from cp etc.:
5K tooltip * 1,25 * 4 = 25K damage

after update
5K tooltip * (1,25 + 3) = 21,25K damage

So I guess that also counts for skills like Puncturing sweeps?

@Wrobel

ArgonianAustin · June 2017

Peekachu99 wrote: »

If you're doing 10K (pre MW) with an execute there's something wrong with your build; issues that will be compounded in Morrowind. I can get 15-20K per tick of radiant on my tank.

10k was the absolute min I could get pre MW, 15-20k sounds like pve, and I did not mention this was PvP sorry. So yeah I'm talking about in PvP this is the damage I've been getting.

ArgonianAustin · June 2017

Berenhir wrote: »

Several executes are bugged as of now, though this might be working as intended and just be a nerf for non-sorcs. The scaling now only affects the base damage value, so any % damage buffs are not increased by 300% but applied additively with the executioner.

So before update, assuming 25% damage increase from cp etc.:
5K tooltip * 1,25 * 4 = 25K damage

after update
5K tooltip * (1,25 + 3) = 21,25K damage

So its because killers blade has the scaling modifier that could be why its damage is very low? Because spammable DPs skills are stronger right now. Its like killers blade actually says "has a 10% chance to deal 300% more damage to targets under 25%".

Berenhir · June 2017

This was already discussed in the PTS forum, I'll point there as I haven't figured out the math myself.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/342899/impale-killers-blade-nerfed#latest

Magıc · June 2017

Peekachu99 wrote: »

If you're doing 10K (pre MW) with an execute there's something wrong with your build; issues that will be compounded in Morrowind. I can get 15-20K per tick of radiant on my tank.

Radiant is the most OP execute in the game. No *** it's hitting for 15-20k per tick while other executes hit for half or less. It's a broken skill that needs to stop scaling off 2 factors.

Glamdring · June 2017

wtf is going on, nerf that radiant *** op easymode templar newbie skill. and fix killersblade, its totally broken.

idk · June 2017

Berenhir wrote: »

Several executes are bugged as of now, though this might be working as intended and just be a nerf for non-sorcs. The scaling now only affects the base damage value, so any % damage buffs are not increased by 300% but applied additively with the executioner.

So before update, assuming 25% damage increase from cp etc.:
5K tooltip * 1,25 * 4 = 25K damage

after update
5K tooltip * (1,25 + 3) = 21,25K damage

And lets not forget that Zos probably still groups way to much together which leads unintended affects in multiple areas when they attempt to change on thing.. I know they were lazy about organizing things early in the game.

Silver_Strider · June 2017

Idk, my Killer's Blade seems fine.
See 20-25k hits consistently in execute phases (in PvE, haven't tried it in PvP)

Is it just a PvP thing? I mean, I can see it dropping to 10k in PvP, which would be further mitigated by Resistance, CP, etc. to say nothing about possible changes to set ups to get more regen > damage that getting 6k Killer's Blade sounds about right but what do I know, I'm not one of those math wizards that can create charts and graphs of all that data.

Izaki · June 2017

Idk my damage is still the same mostly

Remember that defensive CP changes too so that might be a factor in the lower damage

Hurika · June 2017

One question I have is does Killer's Blade still do execute damage if the target has a shield up? It seems like when a class is < 25% but has a shield up it's not doing execute levels of damage even though their health is in execute range. It could be just me or maybe that's intended? Either way if someone is able to check I'd appreciate it. Since you can't crit a shield, getting execute damage was one thought for taking down a shield fast - just need to know if that's doable and/or should be the case.

Alcast · June 2017

Next patch Jesus beam will heal the enemy instead of dealing damage

For now, I call the beam NOODLE BEAM, because its f... useless

br0steen · June 2017

Are you sure it's not just showing a low number because of the low health?

Using OPs example lets say your execute will usually hit 10k on a player but they only have 6k health within execute range, so it shows it did 6k damage. My theory is if they had say 39k health and you execute them at 25% the damage of your execute would increase because there's more health to apply damage to.

Idk if that makes sense but it does to me lol

br0steen · June 2017

Not that the execute is based on health but that the number shows more accurately because of more health.

ArgonianAustin · June 2017

I'm just confused how my damage went up in everything but my executes, I switched to medium armor and that new direct damage cp tree helped but not killers blade. This has to be a huge bug and needs fixed fast. Its a joke getting 4k killers blade on an unshielded sorc at 15% hp. Last patch the only ones who survived a killers blade at 25% were blocking tanks, now squishy players are taking 2-3 killers blades to finish. I dueled My brother and had him sit still while I surprised attacked his tank until execute range, my surprise attacks did more damage than killers blade by about 200.