Maintenance for the week of April 13:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 13
Update 50 is now available for testing on the PTS! You can read the latest patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/pts

Stamina PVP Templar question (armor set)

Chelister
Chelister
✭✭✭
So I am currently making my build for my stamina Templar, but the only thing that I am struggling with is deciding whether which armor sets should I use
In addition to that, I can't decide whether I should go with 2 five slot armor sets or 1 armor set + monster set

The sets that I am considering are:
Ravager
Automation
Jailbreaker

I am currently running 5 Draugr and 5 Leviathan
I will most likely leave the 5 pieces of Draugr set but want to replace the 5 Leviathan set

So my question is basically what gear setup should I run and whether I should use the 2 slot monster set (if yes then which one should I use?)

This is all for PVP
  • Enslaved
    Enslaved
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭
    I would also replace Draugr for Bone Pirate's tatters. A bit less stamina in the end but massive, huge stamina regen.
    2nd set - if you want it to be heavy one, be sure to have at least one 4% healing recieved bonus on it. Stamina templar needs that a lot nowadays.
  • supaskrub
    supaskrub
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    I quite like the idea (actually i have it prepared for M/wind), 5x hulking (body), 3x beekeeper jewels, DW beekeeper weapons, Beekeeper bow/2h backbar with 2x Krag'hs. great health pool and regen, 36k stamina with a sustain of 1,400 (buffed), beekeeper puts less reliance on using vigor which will cost a lot more stamina, was tempted to try Plague Doctor or Green Pact in place of the Beekeeper pieces, food used will be Dubious Camaron.

    edit: Race is Orc by the way and the racial passives work well with the build, i suppose you could call it a "fight or flight" build, speed and endurance.
    Edited by supaskrub on June 2, 2017 12:06PM
  • GreenhaloX
    GreenhaloX
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    BoL really suck for Imperial StamPlar, but I like the max health and stam boost of an Imperial. So, I run 5 DKS and 5 Spriggan on my DW. This gives higher spell/physical resistance, plus the Major Brutality at all times from the DKS frees a skill slot from having to slot a weapon boosting skill. With 2 Validreth onto it, the dps is so brutal. Maelstrom.. pleasssse, what's that. Ha ha. Don't need it. All things melt just fine with my StamPlar. I also like that I get the burst of speed after each kill from the DKS. Also, with my 2H Nord StamPlar, I run 5 Sword-Swinger and 5 Ravaging. The BoL is much better with this Nord. Plus, I like the Rally which gives both good healing and that 20% extra weapon damage. Wrecking Blow, then Biting Jabs with this one.. forgot it about it. Brutal!
  • Ep1kMalware
    Ep1kMalware
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chelister wrote: »
    So I am currently making my build for my stamina Templar, but the only thing that I am struggling with is deciding whether which armor sets should I use
    In addition to that, I can't decide whether I should go with 2 five slot armor sets or 1 armor set + monster set

    The sets that I am considering are:
    Ravager
    Automation
    Jailbreaker

    I am currently running 5 Draugr and 5 Leviathan
    I will most likely leave the 5 pieces of Draugr set but want to replace the 5 Leviathan set

    So my question is basically what gear setup should I run and whether I should use the 2 slot monster set (if yes then which one should I use?)

    This is all for PVP

    Stam templar gets a boost to crit damage, put crescet sweep ulti on bow bar. I'd run 5 sprig/5lev honestly. But thsat's just my $.02
  • Chelister
    Chelister
    ✭✭✭
    Enslaved wrote: »
    I would also replace Draugr for Bone Pirate's tatters. A bit less stamina in the end but massive, huge stamina regen.
    2nd set - if you want it to be heavy one, be sure to have at least one 4% healing recieved bonus on it. Stamina templar needs that a lot nowadays.

    The thing with bone pirate is that I don't wanna be dependant on an
    Chelister wrote: »
    So I am currently making my build for my stamina Templar, but the only thing that I am struggling with is deciding whether which armor sets should I use
    In addition to that, I can't decide whether I should go with 2 five slot armor sets or 1 armor set + monster set

    The sets that I am considering are:
    Ravager
    Automation
    Jailbreaker

    I am currently running 5 Draugr and 5 Leviathan
    I will most likely leave the 5 pieces of Draugr set but want to replace the 5 Leviathan set

    So my question is basically what gear setup should I run and whether I should use the 2 slot monster set (if yes then which one should I use?)

    This is all for PVP

    Stam templar gets a boost to crit damage, put crescet sweep ulti on bow bar. I'd run 5 sprig/5lev honestly. But thsat's just my $.02

    My only issue with Spriggan's set is that physical penetration doesn't count when hitting shields (which in PVP is a lot)
    lev I assume is Leviathan, right?
    Why Cresent sweep? Isn't it magick damage, whereas your CPs & passives increase your physical damage
  • White wabbit
    White wabbit
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Chelister wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    I would also replace Draugr for Bone Pirate's tatters. A bit less stamina in the end but massive, huge stamina regen.
    2nd set - if you want it to be heavy one, be sure to have at least one 4% healing recieved bonus on it. Stamina templar needs that a lot nowadays.

    The thing with bone pirate is that I don't wanna be dependant on an
    Chelister wrote: »
    So I am currently making my build for my stamina Templar, but the only thing that I am struggling with is deciding whether which armor sets should I use
    In addition to that, I can't decide whether I should go with 2 five slot armor sets or 1 armor set + monster set

    The sets that I am considering are:
    Ravager
    Automation
    Jailbreaker

    I am currently running 5 Draugr and 5 Leviathan
    I will most likely leave the 5 pieces of Draugr set but want to replace the 5 Leviathan set

    So my question is basically what gear setup should I run and whether I should use the 2 slot monster set (if yes then which one should I use?)

    This is all for PVP

    Stam templar gets a boost to crit damage, put crescet sweep ulti on bow bar. I'd run 5 sprig/5lev honestly. But thsat's just my $.02

    My only issue with Spriggan's set is that physical penetration doesn't count when hitting shields (which in PVP is a lot)
    lev I assume is Leviathan, right?
    Why Cresent sweep? Isn't it magick damage, whereas your CPs & passives increase your physical damage

    Not sure but did crescent sweep get changed to psychical damage
  • Taleof2Cities
    Taleof2Cities
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not sure but did crescent sweep get changed to psychical damage

    Yes, Crescent Sweep does physical damage. Not as much damage as Dawnbreaker ... but a much better ultimate cost than Dawnbreaker.

    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Aedric_Spear

  • scipionumatia
    scipionumatia
    ✭✭✭✭
    I'm using 5 pc ravager and 5 hulking draugr. I'm still testing out selene vs kragh. DW/2h. Imperial
    might swap out draugr for bone pirate, but we will see depending on morrowind, for now it works great can jab endlessly.

    anyone have a preference of monster helm? now I'm kinda leaning toward kragh cause i find most pple will dodge roll the bear, making it annoying to have to gap close them afterwards. with kragh it may just appear that your jabs are hitting really hard if you can hide the dreugh limbs with a costume or something, of if your opponent isn't all that observant. damage shields would be a problem as always tho
    Scipio Numantia Red guard Nightblade PvP- AD
    Scipio Asiaticus Khajiit Nightblade (CRAFTER/DPS) PvE- EP
    Altmer Nightblade PvP- EP
    Fueoculto Breton Templar (DPS) PvE- EP
    Rasoculto Orc Dragon Knight PvP- EP
    Caethus Argonian Templar (HEAL) PvE- EP
    Vale Oso Nord Sorc (DPS) PvE- AD
    Sir-Galahad-the-pure Altmer Sorc (DPS) PvE- EP
    Scipionumantine Imperial Templar PvP- EP
    Un-bearable Imperial Warden PVP- EP
    Vale Bear Altmer Warden PvP- EP
    Baits-All-Zergs Argonian Dragon knight PVP- DC
  • Ep1kMalware
    Ep1kMalware
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chelister wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    I would also replace Draugr for Bone Pirate's tatters. A bit less stamina in the end but massive, huge stamina regen.
    2nd set - if you want it to be heavy one, be sure to have at least one 4% healing recieved bonus on it. Stamina templar needs that a lot nowadays.

    The thing with bone pirate is that I don't wanna be dependant on an
    Chelister wrote: »
    So I am currently making my build for my stamina Templar, but the only thing that I am struggling with is deciding whether which armor sets should I use
    In addition to that, I can't decide whether I should go with 2 five slot armor sets or 1 armor set + monster set

    The sets that I am considering are:
    Ravager
    Automation
    Jailbreaker

    I am currently running 5 Draugr and 5 Leviathan
    I will most likely leave the 5 pieces of Draugr set but want to replace the 5 Leviathan set

    So my question is basically what gear setup should I run and whether I should use the 2 slot monster set (if yes then which one should I use?)

    This is all for PVP

    Stam templar gets a boost to crit damage, put crescet sweep ulti on bow bar. I'd run 5 sprig/5lev honestly. But thsat's just my $.02

    My only issue with Spriggan's set is that physical penetration doesn't count when hitting shields (which in PVP is a lot)
    lev I assume is Leviathan, right?
    Why Cresent sweep? Isn't it magick damage, whereas your CPs & passives increase your physical damage

    Yes, but you dontnuse the ulti, you just put it on your bar. Doing so gives you 10% crit damage. Leviathan is incredibly strong as it gives you a rediculous boost to crit. spriggans is strong because everyone runs stupid impen. Your rune focus/potl will go a long way too. Spriggans is better than tfs for this regard because younhave that 4k pen outright and an additional 2k stam, wheras the crit buff from tfs is a diminished return when you're running leviathan.

    Ideally you'd want biting jabs on yoir 2h bar and crescent sweep on your bow bar. This way younget 10% damage on BOTH your bars. I dunno what to tell you about shields, zos refuses to balance them. Honestly the extra 16k+ life you can spam heal is a huge *** move when they pulled major mending.

    Shield duration should be increased to 8 seconds (higher uptime in rotations, pve balancing) and be critable (pvp balancing). Major mending nerf vs shields is a hot topic I don't want to get into though. Tbh it's magplars that get templars all the nerfs, stamplar is tricky enough to play as you can't copy/paste other stam setups amd get good results. You really got to learn the class and get good with it for it to become op, which should be the case with any class. Magplars should keep major mending so long as they nerf magplar shields somehow. Major mending should be super awesome, but you shouldnt be allowed to spam major mending AND harness magica. It's good for healers in raids, but tbh I've nodeathed vsohm on stamplar enough times pve healers can definitely adapt.

    Back on topic:

    Youre strengths as a stamplar isn't in proc sets, it's crit%, critdmg%, heal over time (less points into thick skin, more into quick recovery). You want points into thaum, and some into master at arms (burning light/light attacks). templars pretty much come with built in proc sets, except those procs can crit, and get crit dmg buff.

    Edit: another thing about templars. They are not high mobility classes so it's important af to utilize your surroundongs. With good crit chance/critdmg/and pen even weak aoes will hurt like hell. You won't benifit from 2x kragh in pvp but 1 kragh 1 kena will be amazing substitute for 2x proc sets. Caltrops/volly are a must. Trust in your class, keep restoring focus/vigor up at all times, amd your aoes down. People will NOT hang out inside of them. Javelin/volly/caltrops/poison injection (in that order) is a powerful burst combo. Then you can follow up with potl/focus/vigor/jabs. no sorc will be able to keep their shields up and the smart ones will streak away.

    STAY inside 'your house', you are a templar, remember that. If they back out of your damage zone they will have weak health/resources, stay put and critrush+executioner or ulti them down. Once you get that burst on them the situation is yours, play it to your advantage. Maintain your defensive/offensive buffs/aoes. If you do not kill them with a critrish combo move back into your arena anr maintain resources, and start over from a javelin. Don't let them lure you out of your aoes. You can move your aoes, by dont abandon them. Yours aoes are scary as balls, they know that, you have to know it too.

    Then there's the biggest noobplar mistake of all time, over jabbing. Jabs are op af. In pve the 3 seconds I spend jabbing I am doing about 100k dps, 1-2 extra jabs amd I'll oull 10k dps for the next several seconds. It'll kill your overall dps. But the right amount of jabs gives the class amazing dps potential. Tr same applies in pvp. If you get all jab happy the things keeping you alive and intimidating start to wear off, and you become an open target. Jabs compliment your class exceptionally, but they don't carry it. Your passives do.

    Edited by Ep1kMalware on June 2, 2017 11:13PM
  • KingJ
    KingJ
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well for BG a procplar is really strong the issue is you have to run cancer.If your enemy melt instantly you never have sustain issue. Go 5 viper ,2 veli or Selene and bone pirate and you do great.

    If you dont want to run cancer you can go 5 bone pirate 5 automaton 2 troll king good sustain and damage.

    You melt most people in BG.
Sign In or Register to comment.