Cheating new warden skill

Rickter · June 2017

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

This exploit was reported during the closed beta. Guess we didn't scream and cry loud enough for it to be taken seriously.

This. many concerns in regards to this skill were voalized and reported. teleporting alies has always been a problem from WoW to SWTOR

LadyDestiny · June 2017

Somehow i knew this would become an issue. Get rid of tel var stones being taken by enemy players. Problem fixed......

TequilaFire · June 2017

Insandros wrote: »

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

This exploit was reported during the closed beta. Guess we didn't scream and cry loud enough for it to be taken seriously.

I guess they can'T track all the cying and screaming since pvp people cry about every thing

But i'm curious, only time i PvP is to get Warhorn on my new toons.... what's the difference between the Warden's portal and the DK'S chain on players vs mobs?

Chains had it's z-axis (vertical) pull fixed, this apparently has not.

Merlin13KAGL · June 2017

This should work on bosses too...would be awesome to grief the griefer by kiting the zone boss into the portal.

I'd give up some stones for that.

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO · June 2017

I have been using it in front of keep doors to teleport players that are trying to escape back to me and my group.

Elsonso · June 2017

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

This exploit was reported during the closed beta. Guess we didn't scream and cry loud enough for it to be taken seriously.

More likely is that they need to come up with a way to block this and add it to the game. It wil be similar to the protection they put on keep walls to prevent pulls from the walls. Takes time. We'll see.

Skjoldur · June 2017

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

This exploit was reported during the closed beta. Guess we didn't scream and cry loud enough for it to be taken seriously.

I can't remember a beta of any game, where not most of the bugs and design flaws were taken into the live version.

drakhan2002_ESO · June 2017

Turelus wrote: »

lakaisl wrote: »

Why don't I ever think about this stuff..

That's the exact thing Brian, Rich and Wrobel are asking themselves right now.

It's because they don't play the game...or if they do, they haven't gotten out of the Wailing Prison yet.

Nutshotz · June 2017

I just have to lol. Now why didn't I think of that on my warden.

Ghettokid · June 2017

LadyDestiny wrote: »

Somehow i knew this would become an issue. Get rid of tel var stones being taken by enemy players. Problem fixed......

Sounds like Pve'er talking...
First they almost ruined everything by making tv loot from other players 90%>50% and then they should remove it entirely. Oh nononono.

Inig0 · June 2017

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Youd think they would have learned from the silver leash exploit when IC first came

NewBlacksmurf · June 2017

Sounds like the devs continue to design things they like and until the bosses say stop it.... ppl abuse it

Kiwi · June 2017

Its not the only new skill that can be used to exploit, trust me.

Magdalina · June 2017

Insandros wrote: »

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

This exploit was reported during the closed beta. Guess we didn't scream and cry loud enough for it to be taken seriously.

I guess they can'T track all the cying and screaming since pvp people cry about every thing

But i'm curious, only time i PvP is to get Warhorn on my new toons.... what's the difference between the Warden's portal and the DK'S chain on players vs mobs?

DK chains have a height restriction because of stuff like that.

Must check if this gets enemy players into the keep too. Specifically on inner since there's about 273 ways to get on outer anyway. I suggest we all go exploit this as hard as possible so ZOS can't ignore it til next major patch

bubbygink · June 2017

Magdalina wrote: »

Must check if this gets enemy players into the keep too. Specifically on inner since there's about 273 ways to get on outer anyway. I suggest we all go exploit this as hard as possible so ZOS can't ignore it til next major patch

If it could be used to get enemies into the inner keep then this is a big issue. Would just take one troll warden in your alliance to throw down the rune and let an entire enemy army in. A group of reds, for example, could work with a single blue to get their entire group into the inner courtyard of a blue keep before even starting siege.

Trinity_Is_My_Name · June 2017

Too cool! Thanks for the info! Now off to PVP land I go with my Warden! IC here I come! Give me those Telvar stones! hehehehehe

Caligamy_ESO · June 2017

Tryxus wrote: »

Raise your hands: who believed that this skill could be exploited the moment they saw it?

I knew the moment I read the tooltip.

Also players can't dodge cliff racers, EVER. So obviously getting into a group and casting just this will work for competitive gameplay right?

Scarabs can ignore line of sight, and walls, and hit for 16k while stunning... probably not a problem.

Fire rune on top of the Frozen Device rune... has some really interesting effects.

jircris11 · June 2017

This is why I dislike PvP

kevlarto_ESO · June 2017

Turelus wrote: »

LOL!

Players, finding new uses for skills developers never saw coming since forever.

Yep, when you make anything something that even appears benign you have test and think of every possible way it can be exploited, and when you think you have it and release it boom, someone finds a way you never dreamed of in a million years

SirDopey · June 2017

Hahahaha this is awesome!

I've you're dumb enough to go into an enemy spawn with 20k stone you deserve to lose them. Working as intended I say...

PlagueSD · June 2017

and this is exactly why we can't have cool stuff. PvP crying ensues...

For PvE, this is great when healers/DPS get agro. Just run to the rune and mobs get ported to the tank (Warden).

Hoepfully they just disable in PvP...Make everyone happy...

Summon an ancient portal up to 28 meters away with a 5-meter radius. Enemies that run over it are teleported to you and rooted for 3 seconds. You can only have 1 portal at a time and it is removed upon activation.

Avalon · June 2017

Cherryblossom wrote: »

wonder if it works to get enemy players in Keeps!

Anything like a DK throwing down a rope, er, chain, to help them up to the ramparts?

kargen27 · June 2017

EvilCroc wrote: »

Just don't walk near another alliances' spawn points.

In some cases trophy vaults, skyshards and sewer entrances are near spawn points.

Lylith · June 2017

JDC1985 wrote: »

There are some [snip] in ic using the new skill that you put down on the ground that ports someone too you but they are sitting in their spawn porting people up there instantly killing them getting half of your stones say you have imp phy on with 20k stones on you if u get ported your instantly dead and they get half your stones.

[Edit for censor bypass]

surprised it took this long for someone to try that.

figured players would use it to port their friends into keeps without them having to breach doors.

Vaoh · June 2017

Yeah..... I am going to be using this!

I hope ZOS keeps this in the game! Now people will actually fear trying to kill people the moment they jump from their spawn. It's one of the most positive uses of this skill I can think of lol

Gorthax · June 2017

I warned them of this on the pts......good thing the devs listened........ there's another skill you could use too to do some very interesting things as well.

HoloYoitsu · June 2017

Frozen Gate is bugged in other ways too, guess I'll just quote myself:

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

So in literally 5 minutes of testing, I can list out exactly how Frozen Gate is currently broken in that it does not obey proper CC immunities.
The ONLY CC immunity Frozen Gate obeys is the Break Free immunity you get from CC expiring or breaking free.

Frozen Gate will still teleport players inside Mist Form!

Frozen Gate will still teleport players who have activated the Immovable skill from Heavy Armor line!

Frozen Gate will still teleport players who have activated Immovability Pots!

In each instance it is not until the target is teleported by Frozen Gate that they become immune to further teleports.

This reveals something about the backend code for CC immunity:
CC immunity must be coded as separate 'buff tags' for the various forms. It is divided into at least two separate buffs: one that you get from CC breaking or CC expiring (which Frozen Gate gives you after you get ported), and one that active skills and pots give you (Mist Form, Immovable, Immoveable pots).

So what is happening is that Frozen Gate's code is messed up and missing a line of code telling it to not port targets w/ that second class of CC immunity tag.

Pallio · June 2017

Clearly they need to nerf everyone's ability to run VMA more to resolve this issue.

ArchMikem · June 2017

Cherryblossom wrote: »

wonder if it works to get enemy players in Keeps!

Oh god no please...

altemriel · June 2017

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Frozen Gate is bugged in other ways too, guess I'll just quote myself:

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

So in literally 5 minutes of testing, I can list out exactly how Frozen Gate is currently broken in that it does not obey proper CC immunities.
The ONLY CC immunity Frozen Gate obeys is the Break Free immunity you get from CC expiring or breaking free.

Frozen Gate will still teleport players inside Mist Form!

Frozen Gate will still teleport players who have activated the Immovable skill from Heavy Armor line!

Frozen Gate will still teleport players who have activated Immovability Pots!

In each instance it is not until the target is teleported by Frozen Gate that they become immune to further teleports.

This reveals something about the backend code for CC immunity:
CC immunity must be coded as separate 'buff tags' for the various forms. It is divided into at least two separate buffs: one that you get from CC breaking or CC expiring (which Frozen Gate gives you after you get ported), and one that active skills and pots give you (Mist Form, Immovable, Immoveable pots).

So what is happening is that Frozen Gate's code is messed up and missing a line of code telling it to not port targets w/ that second class of CC immunity tag.

LOL ZOS, you did not do any QA testing of the new warden, or what????

WTH???

Please fix this asap!!!

@Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_JessicaFolsom