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Constructive posts lose out to QQing
kunquatb16_ESO
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Why is it that constructive posts putting forwards ideas for improving the game get QQ'ed, often without reason given, and when it is, almost always unrelated to the idea put forwards, or based on them not actually reading the OP?
Where as Troll post, posts that QQ the game ect get wide spread support and agreement, often even if they hold no substance? (Note, I know a lot of complaints are genuine, and helpful in identifying issues)
Why is this good for the game?
Do people not want nice things?
Being a QQ post, this will likely be 10x more popular that all my idea posts combined...
Where as Troll post, posts that QQ the game ect get wide spread support and agreement, often even if they hold no substance? (Note, I know a lot of complaints are genuine, and helpful in identifying issues)
Why is this good for the game?
Do people not want nice things?
Being a QQ post, this will likely be 10x more popular that all my idea posts combined...
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Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Because it's a game forum where people discuss how the game is failing and gonna die in 2015/2016/2017/2018/2019/2020
[Edit to remove inappropriate content]Edited by [Deleted User] on May 31, 2017 7:44PM4 -
kunquatb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
I get people have different views, would be boring otherwise. And a lot of negative and positive feedback is aimed at identifying issues and making things better, or praising what is good.
But I don't get how 6 very different idea's for improving something, that is widely seen as a game weakness can be shot down. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/348710/ideas-to-improve-trade#latest
Or totally ignored, despite solving an increasing issue https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/346599/an-idea-to-improve-the-game-skill-spamming-solution#latest
I don't know, maybe I should just QQ everything and have 100s agreeing with me.Edited by [Deleted User] on May 31, 2017 7:45PM1 -
Uriel_Nocturne✭✭✭✭✭
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Well, in this thread; I'm not going to wade into the AH v Guild Trader argument, nor am I going to engage in any arguments about whether Skill Spamming is "normal" for an MMO or if it's an issue that "isn't supposed to be like that in ESO". (referencing your linked threads, BTW)kunquatb16_ESO wrote: »Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
I get people have different views, would be boring otherwise. And a lot of negative and positive feedback is aimed at identifying issues and making things better, or praising what is good.
But I don't get how 6 very different idea's for improving something, that is widely seen as a game weakness can be shot down. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/348710/ideas-to-improve-trade#latest
Or totally ignored, despite solving an increasing issue https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/346599/an-idea-to-improve-the-game-skill-spamming-solution#latest
I don't know, maybe I should just QQ everything and have 100s agreeing with me.
But as for why those "constructive" threads get buried, and "QQ" threads get "100's of Likes" (I place the Quotes there because, what is constructive/destructive/QQ/Quality is different for each person), all I can sum it up with is... welcome to the internet.
Almost every single site on the Internet, that also host a public forum space, this is common. You probably shouldn't let it affect you too much.
Edited by [Deleted User] on May 31, 2017 7:45PM
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✭Any changes in the trader system has been discussed, at length. Final final word from Matt Firor, way back in 2014, "We would have to rebuild the game code to what you want. It is against one of the core development concepts, not marketing concepts when we built the game. So, either we stop development of ESO, shut down the servers and create a new game, or you learn to live with what we have". Why do people find this so hard to believe.Power level to CP160 in a week:
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Smmokkee✭✭✭✭✭Any changes in the trader system has been discussed, at length. Final final word from Matt Firor, way back in 2014, "We would have to rebuild the game code to what you want. It is against one of the core development concepts, not marketing concepts when we built the game. So, either we stop development of ESO, shut down the servers and create a new game, or you learn to live with what we have". Why do people find this so hard to believe.
Its not hard to think they couldn't add an auction house system in with the new expansion.. lol
Problem is it'd just be a broken mess. We're better off not asking for anything.Edited by Smmokkee on May 31, 2017 6:59PM0 -
kunquatb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Any changes in the trader system has been discussed, at length. Final final word from Matt Firor, way back in 2014, "We would have to rebuild the game code to what you want. It is against one of the core development concepts, not marketing concepts when we built the game. So, either we stop development of ESO, shut down the servers and create a new game, or you learn to live with what we have". Why do people find this so hard to believe.
The concept of not having centralized AH? ok, I get that, but how do my idea go against that concept?
Adding traders should be no harder than it currently is when people make new guild and get enough members. *Points back to OP*0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »
Fix'd that for you, because the complete opposite over-generalized exaggeration can just as easily apply to the Forums as your over-generalized exaggeration applies to the Forums.Because it's a game forum where people circle jerk each other about how the game is PERFECT, and if you have a negative opinion of it, you must just have a L2P issue or just outright suck.
I get you have a problem with me as you disagree with my opinions about the state of the game and like to report my comments on forums but would you please stop checking my activity and constantly baiting me all the time?
It's kinda weird. I have nothing left to say to you, so just stop it lol
Edited by Voxicity on May 31, 2017 7:26PM0 -
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✭✭I feel obliged to say: spend less time QQ'ing and more time learning to forum.
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kunquatb16_ESO✭✭✭✭KingYogi415 wrote: »I feel obliged to say: spend less time QQ'ing and more time learning to forum.
Cheers!
Apparently, QQing is how to forum, or at least, being constructive doesn't seem to be. It not just my suggestions I see get shot down for no good reason, just QQ'ed and derailed into irrelevancies.
Although you see it on all forums, it happens on here more than most.0 -
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✭kunquatb16_ESO wrote: »Why is it that constructive posts putting forwards ideas for improving the game get QQ'ed, often without reason given, and when it is, almost always unrelated to the idea put forwards, or based on them not actually reading the OP?
Where as Troll post, posts that QQ the game ect get wide spread support and agreement, often even if they hold no substance? (Note, I know a lot of complaints are genuine, and helpful in identifying issues)
Why is this good for the game?
Do people not want nice things?
Being a QQ post, this will likely be 10x more popular that all my idea posts combined...
Because brainstorming ideas and critical thinking to make things better is hard and someone might not like your idea and say a mean thing...
Saying mean things and complaining is easier."As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
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✭ok......WHAT THE HECK DOES QQ MEAN?!?!?! I seriously am going cray trying to figure it out with some context clues lol.****Master Healer...****1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Thealteregoroman wrote: »ok......WHAT THE HECK DOES QQ MEAN?!?!?! I seriously am going cray trying to figure it out with some context clues lol.
OK I'll bite. q.q looks like eyes that are crying.
As for the OP, some constructive criticism threads are called qq and dismissed as whining in addition to general suggestion threads being trolled. Some people are jerks, some have short attention spans and poor reading comprehension.❤Experienced, new, returner?❤ Help keep ESO's community strong ᕙ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕗ -- share what you love about the game, offer constructive feedback, and make friends.ʕ·ᴥ·ʔ
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✭tinythinker wrote: »Thealteregoroman wrote: »ok......WHAT THE HECK DOES QQ MEAN?!?!?! I seriously am going cray trying to figure it out with some context clues lol.
OK I'll bite. q.q looks like eyes that are crying.
As for the OP, some constructive criticism threads are called qq and dismissed as whining in addition to general suggestion threads being trolled. Some people are jerks, some have short attention spans and poor reading comprehension.
@tinythinker thanks! You always have my back on the forums!
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