Altmer is better. On a healer you have a lot of recovery. The higher the Base value of your recovery, the higher the return of the 10% from Altmer.

I have a detailed comparison of recovery vs. Cost reduction here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/342867/regeneration-vs-cost-reduction-the-mathematical-way#latest

You can use the excel sheet and experiment with it.

ADarklore wrote: »

I see your spreadsheet is default set for 15% recovery from CP... I don't know anyone who is going to put 100 points into it considering the serious diminished returns after 50... most will do 49 or 56 with the jump points as they are.

I'm curious to know how your results stack up against the tests that were done over a year ago comparing Cost vs Regen... as back then Cost Reduction was superior... perhaps it was due to the CR CP passives and armor CR passive reduction. I know ZOS a few months ago said people should be running Cost Reduction glyphs as well... but again, that was before they nerfed CR passives to the ground.

Cost reduction doesn't help you when you run out of magicka. Recovery on the other hand does and always ticks. Also flat value cost reductiona diminish the returns of your armor % cost reduction.

As far as the CP recovery % increase is concerned... I use 75 Points for 14% by now. I'm updating the sheet right now with additional effects, auch as Betty, Channeled Focus, Siphoning Attacks etc.

CR is only superior if you cast 1 skill per second without a break. In any other situation recovery is superior, as you can basically more than double the effect it has via passives that don't force you to use certain sets.

More interested in the single marginal impact and not an overall full stack compare. It's not like a Breton can't have regen gear. I think it comes down to making assumptions on how much recovery a DPS or healer would normally have to estimate regen impact and compare that to cost of main DPS and healing spells to estimate cost reduction impact.

You'd hope they are relatively close--just from a balance and design perspective. If they are, then it becomes a spell resist vs 4% of SOME of your damage compare, which again is probably pretty negligible.

ADarklore wrote: »

Masel92 wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

I see your spreadsheet is default set for 15% recovery from CP... I don't know anyone who is going to put 100 points into it considering the serious diminished returns after 50... most will do 49 or 56 with the jump points as they are.

I'm curious to know how your results stack up against the tests that were done over a year ago comparing Cost vs Regen... as back then Cost Reduction was superior... perhaps it was due to the CR CP passives and armor CR passive reduction. I know ZOS a few months ago said people should be running Cost Reduction glyphs as well... but again, that was before they nerfed CR passives to the ground.

Cost reduction doesn't help you when you run out of magicka. Recovery on the other hand does and always ticks. Also flat value cost reductiona diminish the returns of your armor % cost reduction.

As far as the CP recovery % increase is concerned... I use 75 Points for 14% by now. I'm updating the sheet right now with additional effects, auch as Betty, Channeled Focus, Siphoning Attacks etc.

CR is only superior if you cast 1 skill per second without a break. In any other situation recovery is superior, as you can basically more than double the effect it has via passives that don't force you to use certain sets.

Well, based on the thread you created, and I just bumped, seems people there were disagreeing with you... so I'm looking to see what people are seeing with their own real-world experience now that Early Access has the changes on Live.

Also, Cost Reduction will help me so I don't run out of Magicka 'as fast' and with all the regen mechanics within abilities... it seems to me regen would be superior solely if you're not utilizing any regen mechanics and are just expending.

I just read the responses again and not one there is disagreeing in any way, the responses were neutral... If you look at other morrowind builds from @Alcast for example, he is opting for 1 recovery glyph as well, and/or bone pirate for PvE Stamina. In the end, use whatever you want, the difference will not be huge, but keep in mind that pairing flat and % cost reduction diminishes the returns of % reductions, E.g. The Breton passive.

HoF for example has resource drain mechanics in it, and recovery gets you to full a lot faster, combined with heavy attacks.

OP, the two are really close together. If you want a full healer, go Breton. If you want a healer that is also optimised for damage, go Altmer.