forgot one thing, i assume you wearing medium armour?

All stamina skills cost 20% less than magicka. Even class skill stamina morphs are 20% less. The reasoning is probably because stamina is used for other things as you mentioned.

Additionally, magicka users have much less stam so they can dodge roll, sneak and such much less than stamina users and a heavy attack with their weapon does not return more stamina.

So yes, it is a double edged sword ( no pun) but the tradeoff is lower costs skills and longer duration of life saving stamina when needed.

Lirkin wrote: »

The Magic users can sprint and even if they run out of stamina can still defend them self's much more effectively that a stamina use can.

You really haven't played magicka lately. This is completely wrong. As a magblade, if I am out of stamina, yes I can spam shields, but if I don't currently have CC immunuity, I am dead. Simple as that. Some players don't know this. I had a comical fight recently, where I spammed Harness Magicka for a good 20 seconds. The attackers kept feeding me magicka, and they didn't CC me. Well then, yes, I can defend. More experienced players would have CCd and killed me within 2 seconds.

You think I use stamina for running? Hahahaha. For dodge rolling? Only when I can't help myself, since I used to play stam and do it instinctively sometimes. For blocking? Only in emergencies, when I'm on the wrong bar.

A magicka characters' stamina pool of 10 - 15K is good for 2 to 3 break frees. Typical regen is something like 600 every 2 seconds. You can be CCd every 7 seconds. You recover 2100 stamina within those 7 seconds. A break free, as a magicka character, costs something like 4 to 5K. Can you see where I'm going with this? Without additional measures, such as potions, Leeching Strikes, Arena set, Amber Plasm set, stam draining poisons, and so on, I cannot withstand an experienced player. They will keep CCing me and kill me. Sometimes I am forced to cloak away when I look at my stamina pool, because I know I would loose the next round of the fight. FYI, I have 51 points in Warlord for 19% break free reduction.

I have not played my stamina DK since before Morrowind. I don't know how it is now, but up to now sustain was a non-issue for me. You have a bigger stamina pool. You have stamina recovery. You have the means to generate stamina from heavy attacks, and further means as a DK or stamsorc. This made sprinting, roll dodging and blocking viable. As a magicka character, in PvP, it is not viable. You completely have the wrong end of the stick there.

Maybe you don't realise how squishy light armor users are. Without my shield, I'm dead. I cannot afford to be CCd. My Nord stam DK is a lot tankier in medium armor than my Breton nightblade, in light. It's more forgiving to play stamina DK than magblade. Mag toons' shields can be very strong, but make a mistake, or run out of stamina, and you go down in a heartbeat.

I cannot speak for heavy armor magicka users, so maybe that's a flaw in my logic. Watching Blob's latest mag DK video, I'll add that the above is my experience with magblade, and your mileage may vary. For example if you are a magicka DK, built for blocking, well then you obviously can block. You're probably using all Sturdy armor then. Similarly, if you used all Well-Fitted, you might roll dodge as a magicka build. What I was talking about is a ranged, light armor, build that uses shields (Harness / Dampen / Healing Ward), not sword and board. I'll stand by my point in regard to that build. When I only played stamina, I thought as you did. Once I started playing magicka, I quickly realised that stamina is severely constrained as a magicka character. Any ideas of sprinting, dodge rolling, or blocking quickly went out the window.

I also tried using an ice-staff, for blocking, once. It did not feel good, but ran my magicka pool down very quickly. Certainly blocking on my stamina DK, or a conventional S&B sap tank setup on my NB, before the Siphoning Attacks nerf, felt a lot more viable than blocking with the ice staff.