Convert to Morag Tong Style
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Just wondering how many more would have upgraded to the highest pre-order to get the Morag Tong conversion ability if players could convert ALL items to other styles? I love the MT style, but, inability to convert dropped set items to other styles keeps me from being even remotely interested.
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mook-eb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Its only use is for role players it would have been better if it were a skin or costume.3 -
Dragonking06✭✭✭They just need to find a way to monetize transmogging armor already and YES apply it to ALL armors, Crafted AND dropped sets! (And Monster Sets while you're at it! Some of them are UGLY as Nix-Ox's backside!)PC - NA ServerNora Wolf-bane - Nord - Knight of Alkosh, Tank"We both looked into the Abyss. But when it looked back... You blinked."12 -
Justiciar✭✭✭Is the conversion available to all characters?
Can it be undone?
Yes any of your characters can convert to the morag tong style. Additionally, it binds the item preventing you from trading them and cannot be undone. It is possible to convert a converted style, such as morag tong, to imperial, and back again forever however.Edited by Justiciar on May 26, 2017 6:40PMConquest, Victory, Profit3 -
Avalon✭✭✭✭✭Is the conversion available to all characters?
Can it be undone?
It is available to all characters on the account that has it unlocked, it cannot be undone. The problem is that at any point past 50, the only equipment really worth wearing or using, cannot be converted using imperial or MT conversion, so it becomes a pointless benefit, sort of like being able to craft in different styles, since crafted sets are extremely weak compared to dropped sets... unless you are in a rare circumstance where you need a specific something for your build, that is. But, those are VERY rare occasions. ZOS really needs to take a look at these things, and do ... something lol, so many possibilities on how to fix it, but, it would start, logically, by allowing conversions on all items (maybe even allowing conversion if you know a complete motif style?)1 -
Draeconix✭✭Just to make sure I understand, the conversion is only done for the currently equipped gear correct?0
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Avalon✭✭✭✭✭Exactly. Any item that can be equipped, does not matter if currently equipped, can be converted. Once converted, it becomes bound to account, and can only be converted to other styles unlocked on account for conversion (currently only MT and Imperial are available), cannot be reversed.0
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Zardayne✭✭✭✭✭I say just give us our transmog like almost all of the current mmos do and let's be over this...9 -
Jtj87✭✭✭If they add a transmog system to the game that's gonna be an extra 100 bucks and it will be a crown store exclusive.5
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✭✭✭✭I say just give us our transmog like almost all of the current mmos do and let's be over this...
Yep. And if they have to monetize it, just make a special crafting table that you buy in the crown store and place in a house.2 -
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Per ZOS Customer Service: "You may not be able to convert that particular set of items or that fancy helmet, but you can convert most crafted and looted weapons or armors."Just wondering how many more would have upgraded to the highest pre-order to get the Morag Tong conversion ability if players could convert ALL items to other styles? I love the MT style, but, inability to convert dropped set items to other styles keeps me from being even remotely interested.
Emphasis mine. There's no listed limitations anywhere on their site to how the convertor works, yet they're saying it may not even work on all player crafted sets. Almost no dropped sets can be converted. This is frustrating, and I feel like it's a misleading feature because it doesn't say anywhere "with some exceptions". It just says that you can.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Just wondering how many more would have upgraded to the highest pre-order to get the Morag Tong conversion ability if players could convert ALL items to other styles? I love the MT style, but, inability to convert dropped set items to other styles keeps me from being even remotely interested.
No. Only items that are regular drops and crafted can be converted
Dropped sets, which is the dropped items most of us wear cannot be converted.1 -
Avalon✭✭✭✭✭Well, the problem is that, yeah, you can convert all of the basic "No Set" dropped gear, you can convert some crafted sets. And that is where they can say "MOST", because the vast majority of gear that we loot (and sell) is vendor bait. It is absolutely worthless. So, who cares that we can convert it? The only thing that would make a converter worth it, is if we could convert pieces of gear one at a time, no matter what it was or what set it belonged to. Anything less, and this is purely for RPers, useless to anyone else.1
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Yeah, but ZOS doesn't list these limitations for the feature. It's incredibly misleading. I mean, not that a feature would be appealing if they outright said "It doesn't work on 90% of the gear you'll actually want."Well, the problem is that, yeah, you can convert all of the basic "No Set" dropped gear, you can convert some crafted sets. And that is where they can say "MOST", because the vast majority of gear that we loot (and sell) is vendor bait. It is absolutely worthless.
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Yeah, but ZOS doesn't list these limitations for the feature. It's incredibly misleading. I mean, not that a feature would be appealing if they outright said "It doesn't work on 90% of the gear you'll actually want."Well, the problem is that, yeah, you can convert all of the basic "No Set" dropped gear, you can convert some crafted sets. And that is where they can say "MOST", because the vast majority of gear that we loot (and sell) is vendor bait. It is absolutely worthless.
I think your number is low... more like 95+% as there are only a few crafted sets that are really worth wearing anymore, and most people don't even wear THOSE! I have a master crafter, and he used to have a TON of business, but other than one guy that wanted cool daedric armor (he was low level), I have not had any requests in months. No one wants crafted anymore, they all want dropped sets.0 -
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✭Might work for some folk, especially those wearing 3 jewellery and s/b or dw of a dropped set and the main 5 piece being crafted. But it is a bit dissappointing to know we'll still not be able to make the whole "outfit" match.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Funny thing, if you convert an item to Morag Tong then deconstruct it you'll get the crafting mat for Morag Tong instead of what it used to be. It's an ugly armor though, I wanted to see what they all looked like so I made ruby 150cp of everything.0 -
greylox✭✭✭✭✭Have they ever said why dropped sets can't be converted?PC EU
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Have they ever said why dropped sets can't be converted?
This answer would have come 3 years ago. It works the same way as converting to Imperial for those with the Imperial edition.
Anything with a set bonus that drops in the world cannot be converted. It makes no sense to me that they add this feature yet make is useless except for crafted sets. It makes it kinda useless.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Ladies, can you bring this up so the feature may become useful?
Originally we could not even change the enchant on dropped set bonus items, but that changed very early in the game.4 -
LordSarevok✭✭✭✭This needs addressed. Sick of this crappy looking gear I wear. Tired of costumes. Tired of basic looking weapons/shields... Why even have this as a feature at all? It's like buying a new TV with an amazing feature that only works on one TV show, on the second Tuesday of every third month... And it being touted as a huge selling feature! You are overselling and way underdelivering...
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsomEdited by LordSarevok on May 28, 2017 5:34AM6 -
Avalon✭✭✭✭✭I understand that ZOS is holding back on this because they can sell costumes... but, the way I see it, is that there are three main types of players when it comes to aesthetics: those that want to look like really cool adventurers, those that want to look good, those that don't care.
For those that don't care, ZOS will never sell anything cosmetic to them really. Those that want to look good buy costumes, go after costumes in game, etc. The ones that want to look like really cool adventurers used to be really happy about motifs/styles, and only buy costumes or seek them out extremely rarely, because wearing a noble's suit or an evening gown into a fight is NOT what they want. Those two groups re not mutually exclusive, however, BUT, if they added the ability to convert all items, and possibly add the ability to convert if you know the entire style? ZOS would see a major uptick in sales that include conversions (the super pre-order bundle and the ICE), and for motifs in the store, because, even if you are not a crafter, being able to convert stuff to make your character look cool? Tons of players would start buying. And, most of these players are the ones not buying costumes, so, it wouldn't really be a loss of profit there, either.
This is pretty much only a gain for them, so, not sure why they haven't done it yet.1 -
supaskrub✭✭✭✭✭If they add a transmog system to the game that's gonna be an extra 100 bucks and it will be a crown store exclusive.
Sadly i think you are right, ZoS missed the boat on Transmog by making Imperial Conversion and now Morag Tong and in effect charging for it as locking it inside premium content purchases, even though in realistic terms it is a muted transmog system and is restricted in styles, but which ever way you look at it it is transmog.
Its too late to offer a full transmog application to 9 trait master crafters as a reward for sticking it out (its my firm belief that should have been in since day one). The only way i could see a Transmog system now being implemented would either be purchased via writ vouchers (lets face it theres not really a lot you can do with writ vouchers at the moment) or as a rare drop (either like psijic recipe fragments, or as a full blown Transmog "recipe" from material collection/refinement, definatly not as rare as a Cipher drop though and it should be tradeable. I'm sure there are other ways it could be done but those are just my ideas of how it could be done.Edited by supaskrub on May 28, 2017 9:08AM0 -
nhisso✭✭✭✭If they add a transmog system to the game that's gonna be an extra 100 bucks and it will be a crown store exclusive.
Sadly i think you are right, ZoS missed the boat on Transmog by making Imperial Conversion and now Morag Tong and in effect charging for it as locking it inside premium content purchases, even though in realistic terms it is a muted transmog system and is restricted in styles, but which ever way you look at it it is transmog.
Its too late to offer a full transmog application to 9 trait master crafters as a reward for sticking it out (its my firm belief that should have been in since day one). The only way i could see a Transmog system now being implemented would either be purchased via writ vouchers (lets face it theres not really a lot you can do with writ vouchers at the moment) or as a rare drop (either like psijic recipe fragments, or as a full blown Transmog "recipe" from material collection/refinement, definatly not as rare as a Cipher drop though and it should be tradeable. I'm sure there are other ways it could be done but those are just my ideas of how it could be done.
They could just make it so imperial and morag tong transmog are cheap crown purchases to unlock.
Or just keep them exclusive and let anything ELSE you find in game be transmutable but not imperial or MT without the proper purchases. Not that difficult of a problem. Rift does it. Swtor does it. WoW does it GW2 does it.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If the converter function worked for set items I -might- have been tempted... but since I assumed from the start it would be just like the imperial converter which is kinda useless beyond starter character gear, well...
What the game really needs is a -proper- transmogrification system!
...best take on that I have found so far was here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/340849/two-ideas-how-to-introduce-any-gear-in-any-style-functionality-into-eso-transmog/p1
...with the "transformation stone" concept, where master crafters would be able to craft magical "transformation stones" for every motivc they know, then use them to get their desired looks, or sell them in crown stores... thus raising the value of crafting And crown store bought motivs (see ZOS? there is -profit- to be made with this idea!), possibly also requiring a rare to farm base resource to craft said stone, which them also could be sold in the crown store for those with more money then patience (see ZOS? There's a second chance to make more profit here!)...0 -
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As I understand you can convert non set items and crafted items, not dropped sets.
Per ZOS Customer Service: "You may not be able to convert that particular set of items or that fancy helmet, but you can convert most crafted and looted weapons or armors."Just wondering how many more would have upgraded to the highest pre-order to get the Morag Tong conversion ability if players could convert ALL items to other styles? I love the MT style, but, inability to convert dropped set items to other styles keeps me from being even remotely interested.
Emphasis mine. There's no listed limitations anywhere on their site to how the convertor works, yet they're saying it may not even work on all player crafted sets. Almost no dropped sets can be converted. This is frustrating, and I feel like it's a misleading feature because it doesn't say anywhere "with some exceptions". It just says that you can.
This makes it pretty worthless as you will always wear sets and you will learn the Morag Tong crafting style or simply pay some a few gold to craft an item in the Morag Tong style for you.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
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KanedaSyndrome✭✭✭✭Just wondering how many more would have upgraded to the highest pre-order to get the Morag Tong conversion ability if players could convert ALL items to other styles? I love the MT style, but, inability to convert dropped set items to other styles keeps me from being even remotely interested.
Agree 100%.. Is the only reason I'm not using these transmogs. I basically only use a dyed costume.KanedaSyndrome's Suggestions For Game Improvements
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LordSarevok✭✭✭✭Still waiting on a response. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Why do does this feature not work for 90% of the games gear? Why is this even a feature at all?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Just wondering how many more would have upgraded to the highest pre-order to get the Morag Tong conversion ability if players could convert ALL items to other styles? I love the MT style, but, inability to convert dropped set items to other styles keeps me from being even remotely interested.
Yea its kinda useless imo. You can basicly only convert nonset dropped items and crafted gear. The only items I really need and want to convert is the dropped dungeon sets like hulking draugr or lich, and those items are ugly af, but since those are the items you basicly cant convert, the ability is rendered useless.
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