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Update: Cyrodil for Mag Sorcs?

  • Makato
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    Pirate skeleton nerf , crystal frag nerf , light armor nerf , dark deal nerf , overall resource managment nerf.

    10% frag nerf isn't much dark deal is still strong and the rest of the things apply to everyone else aswell... :p
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  • Biro123
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    Not played much yet, but I have a few builds I use, and they are all impacted differently. So far I've found (and this is in CP)..:

    Yolo zerg-surfing build.
    This build is all about max burst. Burst damage and burst survivability(through huge shields) - but with 0 sustain. It was a DW build with 53k mag, Necro/spinners. 15k Hardened ward in PVP.
    It relied on hiding behind others to switch to the overload bar for dark-exchange recov. If caught in 1v1's or 1vx's - it ususally did ok simply because the other guy(s) (unless he knew what he was doing) was dead before I ran dry.
    Against a competent opponent (aspecially stam), I ran dry and died.
    With Morrowind - it runs dry much quicker - and dark-dealing takes a LOT longer. This means a LOT more time hiding at the back and recovering - and a LOT less time in combat. Its simply not as fun. 1v1 - still depends on the opponent - but against anyone who isn't a complete potato - it runs dry much more quickly.

    Balanced Burst Build
    Still high mag - relying on burst but with much more sustain - its necro/lich - using a flame destro staff. 51k Mag, but lower spell damage and penetration. I was planning on dropping the yolo build and using this instead, perhaps with a bit of tweaking on jewel enchants.
    This one was a best of both worlds build. zerg vs zerg, burst still killed people (but not as reliably). But 1v1, I didn't run dry (unless poisons were involved)
    BUT in Morrowind - and this is the killer for this build. Heavy attacks (not even fully charged) keep sending my heal-pet running after the target - which meant it kept getting needlessly killed. Having to hit the 'stay' pet command after every attack is just clunky, not fun - in fact I hated it.
    Build is dead.

    New mobility/sustain build
    This one I just put together for Morrowind to drop the pet (and therefore necropotence). This meant much, much smaller shields (10k hardened as opposed to 15k) - so it needed a way to protect the shield and/or survive the overspill. Pirate skelly? no longer reliable.. So dodge-rolling.. And I went the way many other recent builds have in terms of adding stam recov. Without Amberplasm - I used Bloodthorn instead.. Now its not enough to sustain mag without dark-exchange - but dark-exchange is too slow and takes up a much-needed slot.. SO I kept lich. Lich and Bloodthorn - 2 sustain sets.
    But the freed up slots from losing pets gave me mobility with boundless. So boundless, more dodging, streaking + sustain = much more mobility. BUT shields are SMALL. My Max mag is 40k. My hardened harness stack is now around 16-17k instead of 25-26k and Its much more common now that shield-casting cannot keep up with the incoming damage. This generally happens when I fail with mobility - but its a playstyle I'm not really used to.
    Will people still be annoyed by it? Yes - because they mostly can't catch me.. But pre-morrowind, against these same people - they probably still wouldn't have caught me because they were dead.....

    Still experimenting - but so far , I see the OTT high-burst/high shield builds of old are probably much more niche now - perhaps even dead in the water.

    *edit - typed bloodspawn instead of bloodthorn.. duh!

    Edited by Biro123 on May 26, 2017 1:42PM
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  • Lord_Hev
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  • GrimJaw
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    Texas wrote: »
    Sorry I'm late.........didn't hear the call to zerg the forums.....and when I did....some small man group tried to 6v1 gank me on the way here.

    Where's Ghost.......Ahhhh I see him.....brb need to go rez him.

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    That was all me. I know five other people were around me but i swear im solo.
  • Ghost-Shot
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    GrimJaw wrote: »
    Texas wrote: »
    Sorry I'm late.........didn't hear the call to zerg the forums.....and when I did....some small man group tried to 6v1 gank me on the way here.

    Where's Ghost.......Ahhhh I see him.....brb need to go rez him.

    CNTL CNTL CNTL CNTL CNTL CNTL CNTL CNTL CNTL CNTL CNTL CNTL CNTL CNTL CNTL

    That was all me. I know five other people were around me but i swear im solo.

    This checks out
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