F7sus4 wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

What community is that?

It is not the gaming community since most do not frequent the forums.
It is not even the forum community, well, hopefully more than 400 come to the forums.
It is merely those who, for whatever reason, chose to open the threads then also chose to vote in the poll.

In the end forum polls are entertainment value only and provide no defensible information. Statistically speaking that is.

"Statistically speaking" those are responders that actively play the game. No survey ever reaches "most" of the people no matter what the field of the survey is - yet it is enough to form representative group and analyze the output. With the amount of knowledgeable players around I wouldn't be worried about result being ignorant-based only but random with know-hows inside which is exactly how it should be executed, because methodology, "statistically speaking".

when one says representative sample, that is a sample of what?

The key statistically even more importaqnt than numbers is the make-up of the sample. A few respondants of good sample is often better than a large number of responders from a bad sample.

The only thing this sample is representative of is "people on the forum who care about polls and are interested enough in battlegrounds or pvp or potions or poisons to respond."

Definitely not a sample representative of "the eso gaming population of active players."

The reason i vote for allow is you do not really want ZOS IMO to get into micro-policing gear allowed and gear not allowed on the "competitive" content. It is a bad road to nowhere good. once that rubicon is crossed, it wont stop with poisons or whatever your bug-up-butt de jour happens to be.

"What could go wrong?"
Pandora circa OMFG BC

Potions need to be allowed, because otherwise it severely gimps Argonians. I cannot really think of any racial passives that are turned off in BGs, but if potions are not allowed, it really hurts Argonians by dropping one of their major passives.

Tasear wrote: »

Bad idea to conflate potions and poisons. NB game-play revolves around potion usage, and you can't really block that from small scale. Poisons are another matter.

Potions of course, they're an integral part of combat, especially with how awful sustain is now.

Cost increasing poisons, god no, remove this sh** either completely or at the very least from no cp PvP. It has no place there.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

The community is already loud and clear about this one.

Here is the poll from the Moronwind PTS:




And here is the poll from the PTS when poisons were first introduced.




I don't think it gets any clearer than that. The only question that is still worth asking is "Does ZOS care or even listen when one of their features is overwhelmingly disliked by the community?"

What community is that?

It is not the gaming community since most do not frequent the forums.
It is not even the forum community, well, hopefully more than 400 come to the forums.
It is merely those who, for whatever reason, chose to open the threads then also chose to vote in the poll.

In the end forum polls are entertainment value only and provide no defensible information. Statistically speaking that is.

This is definitely not the majority of people playing the game nor even frequenting the forums but it's just 400 semi random eso players that actively frequent the forums. If out of those 400 randoms, 80% said no, and frankly most people I hear in game agree poisons need to go from no cp PvP (at the least)...maybe, just maybe, this should give Zenimax some kind of a hint.

Statistics never analyze 100% of population, they take a sample of a few dozens/hundreds/thousands and extrapolate from there.