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Should Bow heavy attack revert ? POLL
MakoFore
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Having heavy bow attacks automatically release is crap. holding a shot and releasing WAS the joy of using a bow, it makes one feel like a ninja, now with automated bow firing it makes me feel like I'm wearing an incontinence pad - something to help me thru a very basic move i can handle myself. Not ninja like. Vote and let the powers that be see what they have wrought...
Edited by MakoFore on May 24, 2017 8:32AM Should Bow heavy attack revert ? POLL 108 votes
Yes- revert that - you broke it - now fix it
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69 votes
No - keep it as it is- its made bow builds so much more viable- great thinking!
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39 votes
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MCBIZZLE300✭✭✭✭✭Yes- revert that - you broke it - now fix itIt should be a toggle option but if the choice is yes or no, its definitely yes.2
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Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes- revert that - you broke it - now fix itIt either should revert or just idk make heavy attack to charge faster ? Bow was already weak before this change (most of people use it as a "back bar" weapon. )1 -
Stannum✭✭✭✭No - keep it as it is- its made bow builds so much more viable- great thinking!Where is tuggle option?0
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes- revert that - you broke it - now fix it
Letting go of the button or not (during the old way).Where is tuggle option?
Edited by Turelus on May 24, 2017 8:50AM@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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Ankael07✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes- revert that - you broke it - now fix itMakes it much more realistic, fun and useful to be able to hold heavy attacks and fire whenever you want. I dont understand why they would do something immersion breaking when nobody really complained about it.If you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.1 -
Stannum✭✭✭✭No - keep it as it is- its made bow builds so much more viable- great thinking!I would like to have bow old way in PvP and new way in PvE0
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Zoltan_117✭✭✭No - keep it as it is- its made bow builds so much more viable- great thinking!I thought I would hate it but in the end it made it feel more streamlined and faster pace and now I just like the feel of it.
The only thing is I miss not being able to line one up but really I dont need to line it up so far in advance I can just get in position and go.Edited by Zoltan_117 on May 24, 2017 8:53AM0 -
lunalitetempler✭✭✭✭No - keep it as it is- its made bow builds so much more viable- great thinking!Toggle or NO!0
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Skayaq✭✭✭✭✭The worst part of t his change is you no longer can take epic screenshots with your bow drawnKazari-Dar, Khajiit Nightblade..........Jarkyr Storm-Blade, Nord Sorcerer .......... Dunric Amedain, Breton Templar
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TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No - keep it as it is- its made bow builds so much more viable- great thinking!The change is fine.
Ever try holding a longboy at full draw? Yes, if you can draw them, it seems easy enough - as long as you only do it for a couple seconds to aim. But try holding it for half a minute, and see how your arms will feel...
And I mean the medieval bow versions. not the easy modern 60, 70 pound draw compound bows what also reduce the draw weight to three quarters, perhals even two thirds of the full weight at full draw. I am talking about the old longbows or composite bows (which seem more applicable considering the size of ESO bows), with draw weights above 100 pounds and no pulley system for weight reduction... and you know they needed that draw weight to get their arrows through armor...
Now, if we were to talk -crossbows- on the other hand... in ESO terms, those could not fire a light attack at all, only heavy attacks, but hold them at full draw until fired...
...which would actually be a -great- way to bring them to ESO, as alternate weapon for archers! but I mentioned such things before...0 -
Yes- revert that - you broke it - now fix itWhen doing solo PvE stuff with a bow I always liked to be able to hold it drawn in preparation for an attack while waiting for the right timing, such as for a sneak attack, or other events distracting the target (sorc pets, for instance).
The bow going off automatically was a very rude surprise to me last time I played, and generally unwelcome even beyond a "I'm not used to it yet" standpoint; having that control was a significant part of why I preferred bow over staves for ranged attacks.2 -
F7sus4✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes- revert that - you broke it - now fix itI voted "yes" but am still torn a bit.
The bow is logically the only weapon IRL with which you can freeze/hold momentum/impact as you like. In ESO however all other weapons release the hit automatically so why shouldn't bow do that too for sake of consistency? It's classical logic-vs-utility dilemma.1 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes- revert that - you broke it - now fix itI voted "yes" but am still torn a bit.
The bow is logically the only weapon IRL with which you can freeze/hold momentum/impact as you like. In ESO however all other weapons release the hit automatically so why shouldn't bow do that too for sake of consistency? It's classical logic-vs-utility dilemma.
but also if we will look to other TES games...every weapon heavy attack was releasing automically while bow always was with hold before shot
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Dracindo✭✭✭✭✭No - keep it as it is- its made bow builds so much more viable- great thinking!Why should you decide when to release your bow heavy attack, when it's soo much faster to have this automated?
Efficiency-wise, this was a good thing. Roleplay-wise, not so.
Your logic would also imply that they add manual aiming for bows (arrows flying straight forward, even when enemies move to the side) and arrows to be able to shoot, like in Skyrim.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No - keep it as it is- its made bow builds so much more viable- great thinking!Makes it much more realistic, fun and useful to be able to hold heavy attacks and fire whenever you want. I dont understand why they would do something immersion breaking when nobody really complained about it.
Why cant we hold our staff attacks? Or our dual wield attacks? Or any others?
If bows now act like any other weapon i dont see the problem.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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GDOFWR420✭✭✭✭No - keep it as it is- its made bow builds so much more viable- great thinking!I can't hold charge on my staff, so makes sense neither should the bow.3 -
SilentRaven1972✭✭✭✭A toggle would be nice."Such is the nature of evil. Out there in the vast ignorance of the world, it festers and spreads. A shadow that grows in the dark. A sleepless malice as black as the oncoming wall of night. So it ever was, so will it always be. In time all foul things come forth." -Thranduil0
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Olupajmibanan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No - keep it as it is- its made bow builds so much more viable- great thinking!Just make an option in the settings.
By default you would have bow like this, automatically firing heavy attacks, but if you toggle it in the settings you would have classic hold and release heavy attack.0 -
Casterial✭✭✭✭✭
✭No - keep it as it is- its made bow builds so much more viable- great thinking!No, was so tired of people exploiting snipe into heavy from stealth. Now they have to build correctly.Daggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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MrGarlic✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes- revert that - you broke it - now fix itThe change has removed 'timing' from the game. I don't like it.
It takes the 'Steady' and 'Aim' out of 'Steady. Aim. Fire.''Sharp Arrows'Mr.GarlicHidden by darkness, a shadow in the night,A sped arrow dissecting the gloom,Finding it's target, such delight.1 -
No - keep it as it is- its made bow builds so much more viable- great thinking!I like not having to release the button for a "fully charged" heavy attack.
It makes things so much easier for me.
Though i find the suggestion that there should be a toggle button for whether you want this or not a good idea too ^.^~No matter how fast the light thinks it is going, on arrival it always finds the darkness has gotten there first.~1 -
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✭No - keep it as it is- its made bow builds so much more viable- great thinking!Much more realistic , and have a nice feel to it1 -
NukeAllTheThings✭✭✭✭✭Yes- revert that - you broke it - now fix itTheShadowScout wrote: »The change is fine.
Ever try holding a longboy at full draw? Yes, if you can draw them, it seems easy enough - as long as you only do it for a couple seconds to aim. But try holding it for half a minute, and see how your arms will feel...
And I mean the medieval bow versions. not the easy modern 60, 70 pound draw compound bows what also reduce the draw weight to three quarters, perhals even two thirds of the full weight at full draw. I am talking about the old longbows or composite bows (which seem more applicable considering the size of ESO bows), with draw weights above 100 pounds and no pulley system for weight reduction... and you know they needed that draw weight to get their arrows through armor...
Now, if we were to talk -crossbows- on the other hand... in ESO terms, those could not fire a light attack at all, only heavy attacks, but hold them at full draw until fired...
...which would actually be a -great- way to bring them to ESO, as alternate weapon for archers! but I mentioned such things before...
I don't think I could personally hold a longbow at full draw. But....if I had the strength to carry a thousand ingots and lumber, 200 bowls of soup 400 bottles of water and enough sets of weapons and armor to outfit a small army while single handedly slaughtering a city while wielding a greatsword then holding a longbow at full draw would be my least strenuous exercise of the day."it's important to state that our decision to go with subscriptions is not a referendum on online game revenue models. F2P, B2P, etc. are valid, proven business models - but subscription is the one that fits ESO the best, given our commitment to freedom of gameplay, quality and long-term content delivery. Plus, players will appreciate not having to worry about being "monetized" in the middle of playing the game, which is definitely a problem that is cropping up more and more in online gaming these days." - Matt Firor1
