ZoS is buffing templar ulti heal?

BigES · May 2017

Rite of Passage: This ability now grants the caster Major Protection for 10 seconds at Rank IV instead of giving allies 20% damage reduction.

Please God tell me you got the patch note wrong and meant to say Remembrance (the morph that actually gives damage reduction), and are not now giving damage reduction to the base unmorphed ability.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

BigES · May 2017

Also the ability doesn't even last 10 seconds? Its a 4 second channel.

What are you guys even talking about with this note.

I swear to God if this ability lasted 10seconds now I'm out the door.

leepalmer95 · May 2017

Likely got it wrong.

Rygonix · May 2017

I'm pretty sure it only gives it to the casting templar, not everyone it hits. It's an overall nerf since you already have a passive that gives you massive defense when casting it.

Elsterchen · May 2017

Omg, I didn't see this. You are right, templars got major mending linked to an ultimate not used (before).

If I recall correctly it was the "amazing burst heal" of abilities like rite of passage that justified removal of major mending from templars in the first place. Seems funny that now the buff is linked directly to the use of this ultimate (which did receive nerfs only in comfort of use -> healing done is still fine but you can be hit AND take dmg while channeling now)

I am not sure what to make of this. Guess i am happy for PVE-healers that might find some nice use in this ability now. The question wether slotting this ult is worth the Majoe mending uptime remains, tho. Maybe someone did test already? Looking forward on a comment on this.

For PVP I do not see a use. I specifically tested this ability in PVP when takkling a zerg, my "role" was: supporting the DDs in close combat. For me it didn't work out as planned, no matter how the approached was taken: the stationary channel just got me (an the allies) killed. I never tried but I expect this to be even more of a problem with the changes that happened in morrowind, as the channeler is easier to target and damage now. My experience is: its much easier to pop a potion and use spammable heals when getting hit by a bus. This doesn't help group play in PVP, but at least leaves me alive to resurrect allies.

I really would love a developers comment on this. Did you confirm that this ultimate wasn't used? Did you notice that, even with all the nerfing, this ultimate wasn't used ? Rendering part of your argumentation for nerfing templar class in the first place, just so ... well... lets stick to: "misunderstood".
I am sorry, but as a player sticking to a main templar since beta I do get the impression I play my class in a way that is hard to gasp for you. However i am not sure wether its me and my playstile beeing out-of-touch, or wether its your perspective of "how-to-play-a-templar" ...
Maybe its time to sit down and talk?

leepalmer95 · May 2017

Rygonix wrote: »

I'm pretty sure it only gives it to the casting templar, not everyone it hits. It's an overall nerf since you already have a passive that gives you massive defense when casting it.

It lasts for 4s after you finish casting.

Rygonix · May 2017

leepalmer95 wrote: »

It lasts for 4s after you finish casting.

Does it matter? It was way more valuable to have 20% damage reduction to your team than the selfish 30% buff that only affects the casting templar. Not much to heal if everyone besides you is dead.

Edit for clarification: I am referring to Remembrance, it seems it was changed from being a 20% dmg reduction buff to your team to 30% that only the templar casting it receives.

BigES · May 2017

I'd like to know if this is the base skill, or the morph.

If its the base skill, this is a last minute stealth buff.

Templar ultimate heal needs to be deleted from the game. Not buffed.

Give us something cool... like the ability where the NPC fly's up into the sky, and slams back into the ground. That skill has amazing visuals. You could turn it into something like a Templar Dragon Leap.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · May 2017

zos nerfed remembrance becuase people were stacking the aoe major protection from the Warden ulti and the 24% damage reduction from being healed from remembrance. this is 100% the reason, templar got another nerf because of the warden, like so many others.

timidobserver · May 2017

What they did to this ultimate is a hardcore, insane nerf. No idea how you are interpreting it as a buff.

BigES · May 2017

timidobserver wrote: »

What they did to this ultimate is a hardcore, insane nerf. No idea how you are interpreting it as a buff.

First, you have to read my post. Then you have to read the patch note.

Rite of Passage is the base unmorphed ability and currently does not give ANY type of damage reduction. Of any sort.

If what they wrote is accurate, then Practiced Incantation will now give the caster damage reduction and also increase the duration of the heal from 4 seconds to 6 seconds.

SRTtoZ · May 2017

BigES wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

What they did to this ultimate is a hardcore, insane nerf. No idea how you are interpreting it as a buff.

First, you have to read my post. Then you have to read the patch note.

Rite of Passage is the base unmorphed ability and currently does not give ANY type of damage reduction. Of any sort.

If what they wrote is accurate, then Practiced Incantation will now give the caster damage reduction and also increase the duration of the heal from 4 seconds to 6 seconds.

They clearly meant to write Remembrance because its changed now Live and allies don't get the dmg reduction, so yes this is a nerf to healers because a dmg reduction to all group members is way better than a buff to yourself. The base skill remains the same.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · May 2017

BigES wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

What they did to this ultimate is a hardcore, insane nerf. No idea how you are interpreting it as a buff.

First, you have to read my post. Then you have to read the patch note.

Rite of Passage is the base unmorphed ability and currently does not give ANY type of damage reduction. Of any sort.

If what they wrote is accurate, then Practiced Incantation will now give the caster damage reduction and also increase the duration of the heal from 4 seconds to 6 seconds.

Lol it is not, it is cute you think it would be. Check in game, base is 4 seconds healing, that is rite of passage, then remberance is that 4 seconds of healing plus getting 10 seconds of Major protection for the caster and then practiced incantation is 6 seconds of healing. The ulti does nothing for your team but heal them now.

Phinix1 · May 2017

Honestly I'm gonna play just for questing and mat gathering now.

Every resource balance and class change this patch has just been one soul-crushing disappointment after another. It is almost like ZOS is "self destructing in public," going out of their way to set things on fire just because they can.

I really don't even care to follow the drama train anymore. I'm just going to screw around and pick flowers and use the game as a digital sedative because trying to follow the logic of anything else they are doing is just too damn frustrating.

I'd rather not participate.

SRTtoZ · May 2017

Honestly now its probably worth it to take Practiced Incantation over Remembrance.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · May 2017

SRTtoZ wrote: »

Honestly now its probably worth it to take Practiced Incantation over Remembrance.

The ulti only was used expensively in PvP for the reduction of damage. Not for actual heals. So the resto ulti lights champion is now heads and shoulders above this class ulti in the ultility it provides.