I feel for you because I main a Stam nb as well. While I might not solo group dungeons, I have done world bosses successfully (albeit in the pts since morrowind just released) and also can handle groups easily. Unfortunately, with the newest patch us nb seems to be with the short stick with our primary resource sustain tool being nerfed.

That being said though, it's even more imperative that nb players have to realise that they need to prepare before the fight, and not just barged in into groups with no care. (in all honesty, it goes the same with all classes now but I digress).

Focus on what a nb can do which is crit and the 'risk vs reward' game play. I've had good results with a well timed killers blade on a reaper's marked target. We may not have good class heals (comparatively with other classes) but we do have good execute tools, good damage mitigation tools and such that when coupled with the right gear and build can be a beast.

I now Primarily use siphoning strikes on my Stam nb because I find that using ref path, Mirage and reaper's mark are magicka based so it leaves my stam pool untouched. Just something to take note.

Is this a troll?

You mean those siphoning strikes that was letting nbs to completly forgett about sustain? Yeah I rly believe youd like to have it in patch that makes sustain rly hard but this not going to happend, the only thing id like to see is more balancing... cough... nerfs... cough... to sorc dark conversion to keep it on pair with other so called "sustain" skills. Bringing back old siphoning strikes would require to buff other sustain skills and leave dark conversion alone but this shouldnt be the case for sure. Sorry but we need to even the odds, old siphoning would be OP in current game state like dark conversion is.

Asardes wrote: »

Are you using 7/7 medium armor? (Cost reduction and recovery)
Are you using Vicious Ophidian set? (Normal trials are easy to pug and there are zone chat requests all the time)
Are you weaving heavy attacks with your skills? (Ex. do one every 2 surprise attacks and spec 50-60 CP in tenacity)

What was that ZoS said about Morrowind giving players more choice?

Oh, wait...


All The Best

Asardes wrote: »

Are you using Vicious Ophidian set? (Normal trials are easy to pug and there are zone chat requests all the time)

Must be different on PC, on PS4 I usually see 1 pug request per hour in the busy zones. And farming VO gear via normal trials is an exercise in frustration, the drop chance is ridiculous low. You're better off farming Maw gear (i.e. Alkosh) then trying to farm Craglorn gear in normal trials.

Anastian wrote: »

I am still playing as a Magicka NB (Argonian) and just beat VMA with 527k score (considering my last score was 524k pre patch, and I am still a newbie in vma)

You can do it mate ^^ Just work around the fact that you need less heals as leeching strikes now restores health, increase your damage and work on mechanics.

Or to put it more bluntly, learn to play.

Hat off to you for persevering with stamblade, I did it through vet levels and it was tough.
That said, I never used siphoning strikes on my magblade, didn't find it necisary. From what I've experienced today I can sustain fine with recovery jewelry and heavy attacks. That being the case you might want to try using the magicka morph for mag recovery and use your heavy attacks and recovery jewelry for stam.

My PC account only has like 200 cp—so my sustain was trash before as well, but now it's just hilarious. I really just don't enjoy having Heavy Attacks in my rotation—but it's what you have to do. They are broken strong right now, and I don't even have enough cp on PC to put 100 into tenacity. Pretty sure an Aidsplar gets 8k~ magicka back from one Heavy resto—I'm pretty confident this is going to be more aids than before in terms of fights just lasting forever. Not looking forward to June 6th.

Hey at least Vvardenfell isn't broken on PC like it will be on console when it releases there.

Started laughing when i read « Fast-forward to today. I downloaded Morrowind, logged on, and got my undauted pledge (Fungal Grotto I). As of yesterday, Fungal Grotto I was something I could solo without dying ....» Well.. maybe it wasn't meant to be soloed?

to be honest,

Do test and stuff and just stop crying, adjust.. yeah as i already said... my Sorc, on dummy, alone, no ones buff, no potions, no ultimates, no Elemental drain, nothing, only self skill buffs, i was keeping a steady 31-32k, i did all my tests on 30 secons basis, because at 38-40 seconds i went out out of magika.... so last night i did some tests, changed a few things.. yep my DPS went down to 24-26k or even 21k sometimes, but changed pools, i used to have huge magika pools and crit since resources was infinite, so boosts dps a bit.. now had to change some stats, more regen then pool, yeah my dps went down, but now the same config and buffs etc.. stil no ED etc... yep i went down to 22k or so, but instead of keeping up for 38 seconds, i kept up for 2 minutes.. so adjust, less DPS burst (which is what they wanted and lots of players besides the cryers wanted).. so i don't care, less DPS but last longer... so up to you guys, making yourself sick by not adjusting or enjoying a game by adjusting, if all mattered to you was able to easy do content by being able to overdps and overressources mecanics not updated to that purpuse, well yeah it's over, now we have to deal with stuff.

So yeah Morrowind is out and the Easy Complete content is over, now make place to real players with skills adjusting themselves, not just player being good at spamming buttons on their $100+ multi-button mouse.. spamm less, think more, or simply, come up with your own build that fits more your play, not someone elses on the net.


But i don't blame you guys, it's ZoS that created something they never expected going into easy stuff like it turned out, they took a while to find a way, and i personaly think, they did the best, now it looks a bit more to the game i played a while before the CPs system, not some overpowered player toons, after all, maybe vet dungeons weren't meant to be finished normaly in 20 minutes, ever woundered why there is 20 minutes achievements? Because it required a bit of challenge to get it, now we used to be able to get 20 minutes achievements in all dungeons (almost) with a finger in the nose and the other where you want it to be because it got way tooo easy and running in dungeons like supersonic jets with infinite ressources.

I can't tell enough i boring it was when all of my friends weren't on an we were only 2 or 3 and needed to queue in dungeon finder, and then after 15-20 minute waiting queue, you end up getting a 4th player on steroids, going in lik crazy not waiting on anyone, not even the tank or the healer... how many of those time we ended quitting the group ourselved because this is totaly boring.... so now, maybe that little show off will slow down the pace a little and maybe next time as a healer i see those little showoffs going in rampage, i'll simply stand back and let him die since noe, massive heal and dps will be tougher for those kinds on some classes. so yeah, Long Live Morrowind...

And remember something, what happens in a game, is action/reaction... Nerfs happens, why? Because at one point, someone cries a specific class is overpowered, has more advantage etc.. so what happens, when too much crying goes on, Devs get down on this and try to find a way to minimize this down to normal, not buffing otehr classes to also get overpowered. So nerfs are because of us crying... when you cry at one class, well those using those classes are unhappy, but it happens because of the crying going on... Sustain? yeah might be because some cried some classes had more sustain than others and being way too overpower, so what you do, you take out the sustain issue, it fies it for all classes... but worst... all the massive videos teaching spell weaving, animation cancel being public, but the most elites players also that lots of people wath their videos... ends up everyone doing it, watching those movies, reading posts/threads aboutt them... well, now look back and blame us players for all those nerfs, because they publicly revealed a way to bypass the game mechanics... why grinding zones get nerfs? because people openly revealed it on movies and forums and stuff.. again because of players fault.... so stop blaming dev for adjusting their stuffs for us being clumsy.

Well this is my opinion, now enough typing about once more the same god damn subjet, i'm now gonna head back in game testing out my toons to the new system and adapt and lvl a bit my new baby Warden, take care guys and have a good one. And remember, cry and stay unhappy, or adjust and have fun. Don't worry, be happy.... it's a song, it might help you find back your smile.

i agree. this nerf was again too clumsy and heavy handed. it was intended to lower the ceiling and raise the floor- between experienced players and new players. but all its done is made players with more cp and experience even more powerful as it requires that much more knowhow to manage it all. in order to be effective you now need top end gear, glyphs and experience in playing. I've been playing for 7 months- so I'm fine- i know how to weave HA and LA, when to time my potions, etc. but running a dungeon today with 3 other players- all in the cp300 - 400 range- was the hardest its ever been. they were all essentially heavy attacking by the first boss.

i didnt mind it- it was fine and challenging for me- in fact it was gratifying- but the fact remains- that they had one intention- and it resulted in the opposite outcome- another example of how ZOS and wrobel dont know how to balance this game. they've done some good things- but the damage they've done has negated that. ultimately the game has to be fun- and right now its painful running a dungeon with players who dont know how to manage resources- if you're going to do something as impactful as this- you have to introduce it slwoly- or with a guide for new players to know how to adjust. this is going to put alot of people off playing this game. nobody likes doing nothing with their toon for 15 seconds in a dungeon cos they havent beene taught how to resource manage.

Vasoka wrote: »

1) Group dungeons are called "group dungeons" because they are intended for groups, not to be solo-ed. No one cares that you abused a broken sustain system in the game up until now and now that it's finally fixed and put in some sort of frames, and you can no longer rofl spam your way through everything you come here to cry and complain.

2) The changes are literally not a nerf in any way, they are "changes". Simply change your CP to recovery rather than reduction as it was before and profit (??).

3) Sort out your gear and wear x7 medium armor for nightblade. The previous meta where you just *** combine random pieces of gear so you can get all sorts of bonuses regardless of your class and any realism was nonsense.

4)Stop expecting that every single class in the game will be equal in terms of dps/sustain to others. This exists in no MMO and it never will. Just a heads up for ppl crying about sorcs (I don't even play a sorc). There are classes that are better for dps and classes that bring other things to a group, simply get over it. Just because someone is "better" than you doesn't mean that you're not effective.

5) I literally don't understand the people who thought (and now some of them even claim) that the game would be IMPOSSIBLE TO PLAY now, are you out of your minds? There are literally no changes, just because you can't do your OP BS nonsense anymore doesn't mean the game is not exactly where it should be. You don't need endless sustain for vMA, you don't need broken endless sustain for ANYTHING in this game.

Literally triggering me. Peace out.

Granted I've never done a trial in ESO, but should I now feel dirty at having soloed Crypt of Hearts 1 tonight?
I don't, I feel relieved the changes weren't as severe for my playstyle. But I also feel empathy rather than rage for the op, trying to adapt to changes that HAVE affected their playstyle, I guess that makes me a bad person.

Vasoka wrote: »

2) The changes are literally not a nerf in any way, they are "changes". Simply change your CP to recovery rather than reduction as it was before and profit (??).

Not a nerf in any way besides the exact definition of a nerf, yes.

Thank you for all the positive feedback.
As for the negative feedback:
1. Soloing non-vet Undaunted daily dungeons (the ones I used to be able to solo):
>>> The general topside content eventually becomes less and less challenging the longer you play the game (as well as the more you level up);
>>> In order to better my skills, I looked for content that was challenging, content that pushed me out of my comfort zone, but at the same time, wouldn't constantly overwhelm me. I looked for content that, over time, would help me train my abilities to the 'next level' (i.e., learning, through practice, how to 'get good').
>>> There isn't much content in this game that is at a difficulty level between nMA and vMA ... except some (not all) non-vet Undaunted daily dungeons.

2. Getting good:
>>> Unfortunately, not everyone is gifted in the same way with 'eye-hand' response speed. I admire players who innately excel at this, because I don't. I have to practice and practice and practice, all the while, gradually upping the difficulty level while so doing in order to achieve progression as a player.

3. Using / weaving heavy attacks for resource management:
>>> Executing a heavy attack hits 1 target. This would be great if I only had to fight a single mob at a time. Unfortunately, when you are up against multiple mobs, trying to regain some resource via a single mob skill (i.e., heavy attacking) doesn't work. While you are heavy attacking your chosen target, countless others are all attacking you, and because you have no resources, you die.

I really want to continue to improve my skill level as a player, but to do this I need resources that are sufficient to allow me to do this. Siphoning strikes didn't give me unlimited resources, but it did give me enough to continue to work on progressing my player skills.