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They listened regarding ignious shield!!

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Igneous Shield (Obsidian Shield morph): Decreased the duration of the Major Mending buff granted by this morph to 2.5 seconds from 6 seconds.

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  • Tasear
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    Isn't this bad?
  • Anne_Firehawk
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    No its good! Here is the change from previous PTS Version:
    Igneous Shield (Obsidian Shield morph): The Major Mending buff granted by this morph is now tied to your own damage shield. If the damage shield is removed, the Major Mending bonus will also be removed.

    @AllDKs
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  • Qbiken
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    So it doesn´t expire just because the shield does? At least it´s something....but still bad :P
  • Kilandros
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Isn't this bad?

    Assuming the Patch Notes are implying the buff duration is no longer tied to the shield being active, it's much better than having the buff duration tied to the shield being active.
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  • GDOFWR420
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    Thank you zos for mkdk love.
  • Rinmaethodain
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    Thank ZOS for this one, i would hate to have to wait 3 months for a fix. Glad they squeezed it in in last moment.
  • Brrrofski
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    2.5 seconds is more than enough for a rally and vigor or dragon blood/get embers off.

    The pts idea was terrible. Glad they didn't stick with it.
  • Kay1
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    2.5 seconds is more than enough for a rally and vigor or dragon blood/get embers off.

    The pts idea was terrible. Glad they didn't stick with it.

    Not worthy to slot it anymore to be honest
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  • NBrookus
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    I don't see it worth a skill slot at this point over harness for mag DK. But it is now at least functional; the other version just wouldn't ever work at all.

    With the cost increase to vigor, I could see stam DKs using igneous tho.
  • exeeter702
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    NBrookus wrote: »
    I don't see it worth a skill slot at this point over harness for mag DK. But it is now at least functional; the other version just wouldn't ever work at all.

    With the cost increase to vigor, I could see stam DKs using igneous tho.

    Between mountains blessing and helping hands I still see it, now more than ever as a worthy slot.
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    This helps barely for Stam dk. Why not 3 seconds so we can get one more vigor tick? 2.5 doesn't change a thing compared to 2 seconds. Move it to 3 seconds and it's bareable while still being a 50% nerf. Still barely worth slotting over dragons blood for 8+12 increase in healing.
  • Asgari
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    This helps barely for Stam dk. Why not 3 seconds so we can get one more vigor tick? 2.5 doesn't change a thing compared to 2 seconds. Move it to 3 seconds and it's bareable while still being a 50% nerf. Still barely worth slotting over dragons blood for 8+12 increase in healing.

    This latest change to it from what it was on pts is a buff. The original design had a major flaw and this fixed that.
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  • Nifty2g
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    I might be the odd one out but 2.5 seconds is so short, at least when it was active if you had a shield up you could probably get more than 2.5 seconds out of it.
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  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    I might be the odd one out but 2.5 seconds is so short, at least when it was active if you had a shield up you could probably get more than 2.5 seconds out of it.

    @Princess_Asgari read above; repeated exactly what I just said. I probably could have dodge rolled on my Stam dk making the major mending last longer than 2.5 seconds with the horrible shield change they did.

    Like I said you only get 2 vigor ticks because they ended the mending on a half second aka useless for vigor but quite useful for dragons blood on mdk.

    Stam dk still got shafted hard.
  • Darlgon
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    Its still close if you have your shields on your Sw/Sh bar and have to weapon swap to get a heal off.
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  • Arthg
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    No cause to rejoice, really.
    2.5 seconds, that's one tick with Major Mending, down from three.
    Add to that the nerf to stam return when you've got more than 26k.

    It's like they've completely wrecked the core engine of stam DKs.
    The PTS thingy was ludicrous, but the end result still hurts a lot.
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  • IcyDeadPeople
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    No its good! Here is the change from previous PTS Version:
    Igneous Shield (Obsidian Shield morph): The Major Mending buff granted by this morph is now tied to your own damage shield. If the damage shield is removed, the Major Mending bonus will also be removed.

    @AllDKs
    Rejoice <3

    I'm not a fan of this change. Played as DK healer a bit and found it was easy to keep up igneous shield up most of the time by simply stacking it with dampen magicka. Instead of consistent major mending uptime to be close to the efficiency of templar and warden healers, now we have to either spam igneous or go most of the time without it.
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Arthg wrote: »
    No cause to rejoice, really.
    2.5 seconds, that's one tick with Major Mending, down from three.
    Add to that the nerf to stam return when you've got more than 26k.

    It's like they've completely wrecked the core engine of stam DKs.
    The PTS thingy was ludicrous, but the end result still hurts a lot.

    Exactly what I was saying this is still an indirect nerf to Stam DK's because it doesn't help at all with vigor heals. At this point I'll probably stick to heavy armour, drop igneous and add GDB for that 8%+12% passive. Also lasts for 20 seconds so I won't need recasts as often to conserve resources. Only on console so haven't been able to test but may even try stacking all 3 and re arranging my back bar.
  • Lexxypwns
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    I think the people complaint don't realize that if someone else castd igneous and it overwrites yours you lost major mending, regardless of shield duration. Anyone arguing this isn't a huge improvement over having friendly casts remove your buffs is obviously clueless
  • Asardes
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    It's at least useful for tanks when they use GDB. If you cast that right after Ingenous Shield and you already have it active it can boost the total healing from 33% to about 46% of your missing health. One of the strongest burst heals on a health based tank.
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  • Asardes
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    This helps barely for Stam dk. Why not 3 seconds so we can get one more vigor tick? 2.5 doesn't change a thing compared to 2 seconds. Move it to 3 seconds and it's bareable while still being a 50% nerf. Still barely worth slotting over dragons blood for 8+12 increase in healing.

    On stamina DK DD it may be more useful to slot GDB which buffs your healing received directly and indirectly (class passive) and also gives stamina recovery. Slotting Ingenous Shield for the shield wasn't worth while before the patch since it only scales to maximum health. The tank should run that.
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  • Arthg
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    I think the people complaint don't realize that if someone else castd igneous and it overwrites yours you lost major mending, regardless of shield duration. Anyone arguing this isn't a huge improvement over having friendly casts remove your buffs is obviously clueless

    Your statement rests upon the presence of two DKs with slotted igneous shields in the same group or close to one another, a situation not necessarily frequent (in my case, that happens, like, NEVER), and it completely disregards the nerf on resource return. The "buff" you're arguing exists is only specifically situational - when the nerf isn't.

    Give me the old Igneous Shield any time.
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  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    I think the people complaint don't realize that if someone else castd igneous and it overwrites yours you lost major mending, regardless of shield duration. Anyone arguing this isn't a huge improvement over having friendly casts remove your buffs is obviously clueless

    We sir have a different understanding of the word HUGE. If you think this is a HUGE buff then you either don't own a dictionary or are in fact "clueless".
  • Anne_Firehawk
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    Its a huge improvement compared to the *** we had before, I agree on that, its still a unnecessary nerf compared to homestead.
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  • Nemesis7884
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    still really bad for stamina...honestly they should give stamina dk something...anything
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