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THANKS ZOS

  • rotaugen454
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    I never got Red Dead Redemption on PC...
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  • Cynnalia
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    Oh shush!

    This is ZOS throwing PC users a bone as a way of saying thank you for testing their update. It was PC users who found all the quest and skill related bugs and got them fixed and tested for free. So you guys wouldn't have a broken main quest at launch...your welcome btw.

    It wasn't only PC users testing the update...there are plenty of console users who transferred from PC who still use their PC accounts for PTS and got invited to the closed Beta. You guys can't take all the credit. :wink:

    Honestly, as a console user, I have no beef with this. The only quibble I might have is I don't believe they should have made such a big deal during the announcement that all platforms were getting Morrowind on the same day. That does kinda make it look like they're going back on their word. At the end of the day, however, consoles get a couple more weeks to enjoy their sustain and 10-voucher purple furnishing plans. :smiley:

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    Who cares about console players anyway
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  • MarriedWithChildren
    Once again thanks zos for leaving consoles behind. "early access pc only" even though you stated will release for all at the same time. Just out of curiosity do you have a demographic of pc and console player numbers?

    Seriously stop the whining . It's not zos it's console processes . It can't be helped . Also... pc master race ;)
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  • CTSCold
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    I saw we give the consoles what they want: same day releases.

    Even if those releases are two to three week old builds of the game with numerous bugs and unoptimized content.

    Or they can have it how it is now where they get the post pts versions after PC since there is no point in ZOS sittIng on finished content.
  • bigspender42002
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    Final fantasy IV arr releases content on both pc and ps4 same day. fyi
  • AzraelKrieg
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    Final fantasy IV arr releases content on both pc and ps4 same day. fyi

    Square Enix lodges the patch to Sony first and then waits the approval time before releasing on both platforms. As both platforms had simultaneous launches this makes sense. However, ESO did not. PC launched April 2014, consoles launched June 2015. You guys were already behind as it was and ZOS is not going to address that cadence.

    Another reason why PS4 and PC for ARR gets simultaneous patching is that both platforms use the same servers so PC and PS4 play together. Patching one before the other would cause unnecessary problems. ESO has all platforms separated so having them all patched at the same time with the same patch would be costly to them for ongoing development.
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  • WarMasterCyp
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    Once again thanks zos for leaving consoles behind. "early access pc only" even though you stated will release for all at the same time. Just out of curiosity do you have a demographic of pc and console player numbers?

    Like @Potenza said it isn't ZOS fault but Sony and Microsoft (Playstation and Xbox)
  • Elsonso
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    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    Well, I wish ZOS hadn't done the whole "early access" thing, because it's not fair to console users, but ...
    They said you'd get to play on June 6th, and you're still getting to play on June 6th. Nothing has been taken away from you, and you're not being inconvenienced in any way. Threads like this just arise out of jealousy.

    Once I played a game by another company and learned that a different platform would be getting an expansion for it before I would. (Don't remember which game it was, or I'd write it here.) My first reaction was to say "Whaaaaaattt???" But then I got over it. Yes, I was a little jealous someone else got to play it first, but it really wasn't that big of a deal. So, this very thing happened to me, too, with a different game.

    My feeling is that this is nothing more than what it appears to be. Morrowind is done as of today, Sunday, May 21. (Whenever they decided it was Gold) It is being shipped to Microsoft and Sony for certification, per whatever agreement that exists with those companies. At the same time, they are releasing it to PC/Mac pre-order customers. For whatever reason, likely part technical and part contractual, they have a 2 week window for consoles to certify.

    Why did they change the date for PC/Mac from June 6 to May 22? Two obvious reasons: (1) it is done, so why should they sit on it for two weeks, and (2) more time on Live will add more fixes to the first console patch.

    I don't think that ZOS and Bethesda are being malicious and I don't think that any dark deals are being done here.

    Still, Bethesda Softworks (ESO publisher) apparently made a deal with Microsoft for exclusive DLC in one game that I purchased. That meant that XBox got the DLC 30 days ahead of PC/Mac. Bethesda probably did this for favors, lower price, or whatever, from Microsoft. Since then, my rule with Bethesda is simple. If they cannot provide me with the content because it appears that they have entered into an exclusive marketing deal that causes preferential release ahead of me, then I won't pay full price for it. I won't pay top dollar to be a second-class customer. I will wait for it to go on sale for at least 50% off. If I have lost interest in the game before that happens, then they never get the sale.

    Even though I don't think this is happening with Morrowind, I can't really hold it against any console player that feels slighted.
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  • GaldorP
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    Thank Sony and Microsoft who have systems in place that delay every patch a company wants to release by up to 2 weeks.

    Edit: Companies that release updates on PC and console at the same time hold back PC patches and wait until they can release the same patch on console. This makes PC players wait longer for a patch than they'd have to because of a console problem.

    Edit2: Early access is a measure to push preorder sales. It was used at the initial launch of ESO as well. I'm sure if ZOS could have used it on consoles they would have done so. Console players get the game on the date that was promised.
    Edited by GaldorP on May 21, 2017 1:27PM
  • GreenhaloX
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    Once again thanks zos for leaving consoles behind. "early access pc only" even though you stated will release for all at the same time. Just out of curiosity do you have a demographic of pc and console player numbers?

    Why the hate? I'm actually glad not to have the expansion release tomorrow for PS4. Like any other new contents/DLC, whatever, with ESO, there are always bouts of technical dysfunctions accompanying the day of release with downloading, installment issues, and whatever other lag, crashes and glitches. Aside from the current (very annoying, at best) lag and glitches that have been occurring for the past couple to few weeks, that ZOS/dev have seemingly been neglecting, I'm not looking forward to whatever madness are in the horizon come June 6th.
  • Nifty2g
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    i don't think early access was their plan all along at all. They would have said so if that's the case, like why even keep that a secret then last second say it's coming early to pc only.

    That doesn't make sense to me.
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  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    Tasear wrote: »
    You realize PC is going to be the white mice for the final experiment. You sure you want this cheesecake?

    Let the PC masters think they are the Masters while in fact they are the slaves >:)

    P.S I like cheese

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    mmm..... cheese :p
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  • Riggsy
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    PC MASTER RACE
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  • TequilaFire
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    I am glad there is a 2 week delay for console certification as it keep devs from launching total fails.
    Most organized companies know how to synchronize launches however.
  • Calsifer
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    Early access for PC or one platform over another is not always a bad thing.

    Just think of the people getting early access as the beta testers. ALL the bugs and potential bad things will hit them first. This gives us time to prepare to do something else until the dust settles.

    SO. . . . Thank you ZOS and PC users for taking one for the team. I do hope you have a flawless implementation. . . . but if we go based on track record, put on a helment and buckle the **** up! =D
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