Magic Templar or Stamplar?

LvDPrankWars · May 2017

going by the next update which would be better for me?

Goshua · May 2017

The one you enjoy playing the most or both

LvDPrankWars · May 2017

Goshua wrote: »

The one you enjoy playing the most or both

ive never tried stamplar

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · May 2017

LvDPrankWars wrote: »

Goshua wrote: »

The one you enjoy playing the most or both

ive never tried stamplar

Stamplars are getting a huge Nerf, repentance is only going to return stam to the caster and that is really the only way a Stam temp has to return stam to itself, so be wary of other temps, especially stamtemps in your group.

SilverWF · May 2017

LvDPrankWars wrote: »

going by the next update which would be better for me?

You didn't said: what you are planning to do with him?

You can play whatever you want, just do not queue to the vet dungeons.

Rygonix · May 2017

Feel free to try Stamplar, but since their heals still have not a single stam morph, and with Vigor getting nerfed you might not have a fun time.

Sneaky-Snurr · May 2017

Tricky question, OP.

We need more information from you on your playstyles, your favourite game mode whether it's PvP or PvE etc. and preferred role in group/solo play among other things.

If you're more inclined on dealing damage, I'd say Magplar is a little better at least on the sustain end.
For tanking, you can either be stam or mag-centric in your build as you can branch to stam = the conventional block-tank or mag = blazing shield tank (one of the many builds available for tanks).
For a healer, a magicka build is, without question, superior to stam definitely.

You can also mix roles in a build which I did previously on my Stamplar (60:40, DD:tank). However, I've since changed my Stamplar to a hybrid amid the latest patch notes for Morrowind (Pelinal's set is my most important set!).
Now I play a mix of DD, healer and tank so I can brawl in battles and heal allies with Vigour & BoL especially in PvP as I mostly play in that environment.

That said, it's up to you to decide which builds suit the best for your kind of playstyle.

Ep1kMalware · May 2017

LvDPrankWars wrote: »

going by the next update which would be better for me?

My stamplar (atm) pulling 42k dps and can do vma with 11k life. My magplar sits on a shelf because Idk how to play it. Personally, stick with the class you love the most and master it.

LvDPrankWars · May 2017

Sneaky-Snurr wrote: »

Tricky question, OP.

We need more information from you on your playstyles, your favourite game mode whether it's PvP or PvE etc. and preferred role in group/solo play among other things.

If you're more inclined on dealing damage, I'd say Magplar is a little better at least on the sustain end.
For tanking, you can either be stam or mag-centric in your build as you can branch to stam = the conventional block-tank or mag = blazing shield tank (one of the many builds available for tanks).
For a healer, a magicka build is, without question, superior to stam definitely.

You can also mix roles in a build which I did previously on my Stamplar (60:40, DD:tank). However, I've since changed my Stamplar to a hybrid amid the latest patch notes for Morrowind (Pelinal's set is my most important set!).
Now I play a mix of DD, healer and tank so I can brawl in battles and heal allies with Vigour & BoL especially in PvP as I mostly play in that environment.

That said, it's up to you to decide which builds suit the best for your kind of playstyle.

ive gotten to level 40 as a healer restoration staff ect but getting bored and reset my skills to dps mag templar. not sure what it is im doing wrong but my mana drains very fast even with magica food increase

LvDPrankWars · May 2017

Oh and i mostly play PVE and small amount of PVP

Taself · May 2017

Have a stamplar as one of my main toons, she's brilliant. Am slightly worried about the coming update. If she's not as effective I'll respect her until fairly happy again. No way is she being retired

Both stam and mag builds are great fun, and are simple and pretty bulletproof.

R_K · May 2017

Magic Templar is one of the most versatile and most helpful setups to run for any group. They do excellent cleave damage to multiple enemies and their abilities give resources back to the group, rather than draining resources from the group; this is in terms of healing others (Purifying Light, Ritual), giving back stamina [and even magicka] (Blazing Spear or Luminous Spear), and even damage mitigation if necessary (Nova). This is the polar opposite of nearly all meta Stamina setups that require and drain time and energy from the group (such as requiring constant nursing and healing, special sets just to fully reduce enemy physical resistance [e.g. Night Mother, etc.]).

Khaos_Bane · May 2017

Just get used to the fact that they constantly nerf Magplars.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · May 2017

Rygonix wrote: »

Feel free to try Stamplar, but since their heals still have not a single stam morph, and with Vigor getting nerfed you might not have a fun time.

This is wrong, repentance is a great heal, though it is getting a nerf, it is still going to be good enough for most solo stuff, will supplements from blood craze or rally, really all you need in pve, or at least all I needed.

LvDPrankWars · May 2017

One other thing, should i be using heavy armour or light?

ArchMikem · May 2017

LvDPrankWars wrote: »

Goshua wrote: »

The one you enjoy playing the most or both

ive never tried stamplar

I did, it was terrible. The Class Skills are made for Magic users. The only Stam abilities of note are Repentance which is a Heal that doesn't cost anything, but only heals you after a battle, Biting Jabs as your spammable, and Blinding Javelin for a knockback. I guess you could get by with those three things, but as Stamina you're missing out on the most important thing about Templars. Your Jesus Beam.

zaria · May 2017

LvDPrankWars wrote: »

One other thing, should i be using heavy armour or light?

In pve light as magplar medium as stamplar, that is if you are not tanking.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · May 2017

ArchMikem wrote: »

LvDPrankWars wrote: »

Goshua wrote: »

The one you enjoy playing the most or both

ive never tried stamplar

I did, it was terrible. The Class Skills are made for Magic users. The only Stam abilities of note are Repentance which is a Heal that doesn't cost anything, but only heals you after a battle, Biting Jabs as your spammable, and Blinding Javelin for a knockback. I guess you could get by with those three things, but as Stamina you're missing out on the most important thing about Templars. Your Jesus Beam.

That is just lazy, as a Stam build you have access to reverse slash, for intents and purposes an aoe execute, the passive executes of the duel wield line, not to mention steel tornado, which is an AOE execute. You do not need radiant to be effective and not is it the most important thing about a temp, that would go to jabs/sweeps, which is an amazing skill and a better spamable then force shock, flurry and wrecking blow, obviously depending on mag/Stam alignment.

I don't even use an execute on my stamplar cause I am cheap, I run trap/throw dagger/PotL/ blood craze/jabs, with the standard bow back bar, still get 30k+ dps.

akl77 · May 2017

Magplar

lunalitetempler · May 2017

Why not both ? ^^

Wolfenbelle · May 2017

OP, I have played a stamina Templar DPS for over three years as my main and mostly PvE, with some PvP. Although she is not among the elite in total DPS, she more than holds her own in group content. And she has soloed all other content with ease. I have max leveled all the weapons with her except sword and board. My favorites are dual wield and bow, although I'm switching to a lightening staff on my back bar as an experiment for Morrowind's upcoming sustain issues.

So the best way to go in this game is to do what you enjoy. As @lunalitetempler said above, you can try both a magicka and a stamina Templar (or any other class/playstyle combo). You are not limited to one.

NyassaV · May 2017

Make a dark elf, and switch to whichever you feel like playing

Magdalina · May 2017

LvDPrankWars wrote: »

Sneaky-Snurr wrote: »

Tricky question, OP.

We need more information from you on your playstyles, your favourite game mode whether it's PvP or PvE etc. and preferred role in group/solo play among other things.

If you're more inclined on dealing damage, I'd say Magplar is a little better at least on the sustain end.
For tanking, you can either be stam or mag-centric in your build as you can branch to stam = the conventional block-tank or mag = blazing shield tank (one of the many builds available for tanks).
For a healer, a magicka build is, without question, superior to stam definitely.

You can also mix roles in a build which I did previously on my Stamplar (60:40, DD:tank). However, I've since changed my Stamplar to a hybrid amid the latest patch notes for Morrowind (Pelinal's set is my most important set!).
Now I play a mix of DD, healer and tank so I can brawl in battles and heal allies with Vigour & BoL especially in PvP as I mostly play in that environment.

That said, it's up to you to decide which builds suit the best for your kind of playstyle.

ive gotten to level 40 as a healer restoration staff ect but getting bored and reset my skills to dps mag templar. not sure what it is im doing wrong but my mana drains very fast even with magica food increase

I'd say magplars actually have great sustain with Channeled Focus, it's armor buff, healing buff and like 500 free mag regen on top of that(also it looks op). ...wait level 40. I'm not sure if you have that unlocked yet? It's the last skill of Restoring Light skilltree.

You'd likely have a harder time with resources on stamplars. But yeah, maybe just try both and see which playstyle is more to your liking.

LvDPrankWars · May 2017

Magdalina wrote: »

LvDPrankWars wrote: »

Sneaky-Snurr wrote: »

Tricky question, OP.

We need more information from you on your playstyles, your favourite game mode whether it's PvP or PvE etc. and preferred role in group/solo play among other things.

If you're more inclined on dealing damage, I'd say Magplar is a little better at least on the sustain end.
For tanking, you can either be stam or mag-centric in your build as you can branch to stam = the conventional block-tank or mag = blazing shield tank (one of the many builds available for tanks).
For a healer, a magicka build is, without question, superior to stam definitely.

You can also mix roles in a build which I did previously on my Stamplar (60:40, DD:tank). However, I've since changed my Stamplar to a hybrid amid the latest patch notes for Morrowind (Pelinal's set is my most important set!).
Now I play a mix of DD, healer and tank so I can brawl in battles and heal allies with Vigour & BoL especially in PvP as I mostly play in that environment.

That said, it's up to you to decide which builds suit the best for your kind of playstyle.

ive gotten to level 40 as a healer restoration staff ect but getting bored and reset my skills to dps mag templar. not sure what it is im doing wrong but my mana drains very fast even with magica food increase

I'd say magplars actually have great sustain with Channeled Focus, it's armor buff, healing buff and like 500 free mag regen on top of that(also it looks op). ...wait level 40. I'm not sure if you have that unlocked yet? It's the last skill of Restoring Light skilltree.

You'd likely have a harder time with resources on stamplars. But yeah, maybe just try both and see which playstyle is more to your liking.

im level 50 cp 47 now, was thinking about unlocking that armour skill line, is it good then?

Magdalina · May 2017

LvDPrankWars wrote: »

Magdalina wrote: »

LvDPrankWars wrote: »

Sneaky-Snurr wrote: »

Tricky question, OP.

We need more information from you on your playstyles, your favourite game mode whether it's PvP or PvE etc. and preferred role in group/solo play among other things.

If you're more inclined on dealing damage, I'd say Magplar is a little better at least on the sustain end.
For tanking, you can either be stam or mag-centric in your build as you can branch to stam = the conventional block-tank or mag = blazing shield tank (one of the many builds available for tanks).
For a healer, a magicka build is, without question, superior to stam definitely.

You can also mix roles in a build which I did previously on my Stamplar (60:40, DD:tank). However, I've since changed my Stamplar to a hybrid amid the latest patch notes for Morrowind (Pelinal's set is my most important set!).
Now I play a mix of DD, healer and tank so I can brawl in battles and heal allies with Vigour & BoL especially in PvP as I mostly play in that environment.

That said, it's up to you to decide which builds suit the best for your kind of playstyle.

ive gotten to level 40 as a healer restoration staff ect but getting bored and reset my skills to dps mag templar. not sure what it is im doing wrong but my mana drains very fast even with magica food increase

I'd say magplars actually have great sustain with Channeled Focus, it's armor buff, healing buff and like 500 free mag regen on top of that(also it looks op). ...wait level 40. I'm not sure if you have that unlocked yet? It's the last skill of Restoring Light skilltree.

You'd likely have a harder time with resources on stamplars. But yeah, maybe just try both and see which playstyle is more to your liking.

im level 50 cp 47 now, was thinking about unlocking that armour skill line, is it good then?

Restoring light is one of the three templar class trees

And yes, it's great, mainly siuited for heals but Focus is awesome for anyone really, Purifying is an awesome cleanse(=removes negative effects, a must for pvp but works great against some pve stuff too) and Breath of life(first skill) is a giant burst heal that's good to have for damage intense situations.

Brrrofski · May 2017

Stamplar is a lot more fun in PvP.

Invincible · May 2017

I have been able to solo all dolmens and even some world bosses as a stamplar and I really have no idea what I'm doing. Just rally, cleave, jabs and roll around until it dies. Idk.

I've considered magplar for healing jabs and Jesus beam but I love the mobility and speed of play those goes along with medium armor. I just hit cp160 so my opinion is probably subject to change since I'll be able to get in to the harder content.