Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Multiboxing is "allowed" however you have to be physically controlling both accounts (no programs)
Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Multiboxing is "allowed" however you have to be physically controlling both accounts (no programs)
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Multiboxing is "allowed" however you have to be physically controlling both accounts (no programs)
Bruh....
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/23701/kw/Multibox
CAN I MULTIBOX IN THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE: TAMRIEL UNLIMITED?
Updated 11/06/2015 08:11 AM Published 09/04/2014 02:57 PM
Multiboxing is NOT allowed in The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited in any of its forms, whether software- or hardware-based. Any accounts found to be multiboxing will be considered in violation of our Terms of Service and actioned swiftly and decisively, up to the permanent deactivation of the account along with any other associated accounts. To be clear, players are welcome to have multiple accounts. However, using hardware or software to play them all at the same time is not allowed on any ESO service.
Multiboxing is the practice of playing multiple accounts simultaneously, including, but not limited to using either hardware or software to facilitate the coordination between the accounts. This violates the intended nature of the gameplay mechanics we've created for ESO.
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Multiboxing is "allowed" however you have to be physically controlling both accounts (no programs)
Bruh....
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/23701/kw/Multibox
CAN I MULTIBOX IN THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE: TAMRIEL UNLIMITED?
Updated 11/06/2015 08:11 AM Published 09/04/2014 02:57 PM
Multiboxing is NOT allowed in The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited in any of its forms, whether software- or hardware-based. Any accounts found to be multiboxing will be considered in violation of our Terms of Service and actioned swiftly and decisively, up to the permanent deactivation of the account along with any other associated accounts. To be clear, players are welcome to have multiple accounts. However, using hardware or software to play them all at the same time is not allowed on any ESO service.
Multiboxing is the practice of playing multiple accounts simultaneously, including, but not limited to using either hardware or software to facilitate the coordination between the accounts. This violates the intended nature of the gameplay mechanics we've created for ESO.
So how is this enforced??
They ban you if you're caught, the if being the key word.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Multiboxing is "allowed" however you have to be physically controlling both accounts (no programs)
Bruh....
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/23701/kw/Multibox
CAN I MULTIBOX IN THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE: TAMRIEL UNLIMITED?
Updated 11/06/2015 08:11 AM Published 09/04/2014 02:57 PM
Multiboxing is NOT allowed in The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited in any of its forms, whether software- or hardware-based. Any accounts found to be multiboxing will be considered in violation of our Terms of Service and actioned swiftly and decisively, up to the permanent deactivation of the account along with any other associated accounts. To be clear, players are welcome to have multiple accounts. However, using hardware or software to play them all at the same time is not allowed on any ESO service.
Multiboxing is the practice of playing multiple accounts simultaneously, including, but not limited to using either hardware or software to facilitate the coordination between the accounts. This violates the intended nature of the gameplay mechanics we've created for ESO.
So how is this enforced??
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Multiboxing is "allowed" however you have to be physically controlling both accounts (no programs)
Bruh....
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/23701/kw/Multibox
CAN I MULTIBOX IN THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE: TAMRIEL UNLIMITED?
Updated 11/06/2015 08:11 AM Published 09/04/2014 02:57 PM
Multiboxing is NOT allowed in The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited in any of its forms, whether software- or hardware-based. Any accounts found to be multiboxing will be considered in violation of our Terms of Service and actioned swiftly and decisively, up to the permanent deactivation of the account along with any other associated accounts. To be clear, players are welcome to have multiple accounts. However, using hardware or software to play them all at the same time is not allowed on any ESO service.
Multiboxing is the practice of playing multiple accounts simultaneously, including, but not limited to using either hardware or software to facilitate the coordination between the accounts. This violates the intended nature of the gameplay mechanics we've created for ESO.
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Multiboxing is "allowed" however you have to be physically controlling both accounts (no programs)
Bruh....
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/23701/kw/Multibox
CAN I MULTIBOX IN THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE: TAMRIEL UNLIMITED?
Updated 11/06/2015 08:11 AM Published 09/04/2014 02:57 PM
Multiboxing is NOT allowed in The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited in any of its forms, whether software- or hardware-based. Any accounts found to be multiboxing will be considered in violation of our Terms of Service and actioned swiftly and decisively, up to the permanent deactivation of the account along with any other associated accounts. To be clear, players are welcome to have multiple accounts. However, using hardware or software to play them all at the same time is not allowed on any ESO service.
Multiboxing is the practice of playing multiple accounts simultaneously, including, but not limited to using either hardware or software to facilitate the coordination between the accounts. This violates the intended nature of the gameplay mechanics we've created for ESO.
The problem is that you've highlighted the wrong bit of the rules, and I think that exposes an ambiguity that really needs to be clarified by ZOS.
It isn't playing multiple accounts at the same time that is against the rules, it's using hardware or software to do so. You highlighted the second part of the sentence but it's the first part that actually contains the bit that is against the rules.
Clearly it's fine to run two accounts and have them both active in order to trade items between your characters. Where the ambiguity comes in is if you have two accounts active on separate machines and instead of trading between characters you run them through a dungeon together. Your highlighting suggests that is against the rules regardless, I would suggest the bit you didn't highlight suggests it's ok as long as you aren't using hardware or software to do so. But what is meant by "hardware or software"?
It would be helpful to get clarification as to whether it is permitted to run two characters on separate accounts and machines, each with separate keyboard and mouse without any additional software or hardware involved, just two sets of computer/monitor/keyboard/mouse arrangements running the default game client without any form of extra assistance. It's the way that a lot of multi-boxers traditionally operate, as I used to do in EQ for example, although I haven't done so in ESO. Here I use a second account simply to allow extra character slots.
lordrichter wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Multiboxing is "allowed" however you have to be physically controlling both accounts (no programs)
Bruh....
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/23701/kw/Multibox
CAN I MULTIBOX IN THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE: TAMRIEL UNLIMITED?
Updated 11/06/2015 08:11 AM Published 09/04/2014 02:57 PM
Multiboxing is NOT allowed in The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited in any of its forms, whether software- or hardware-based. Any accounts found to be multiboxing will be considered in violation of our Terms of Service and actioned swiftly and decisively, up to the permanent deactivation of the account along with any other associated accounts. To be clear, players are welcome to have multiple accounts. However, using hardware or software to play them all at the same time is not allowed on any ESO service.
Multiboxing is the practice of playing multiple accounts simultaneously, including, but not limited to using either hardware or software to facilitate the coordination between the accounts. This violates the intended nature of the gameplay mechanics we've created for ESO.
The problem is that you've highlighted the wrong bit of the rules, and I think that exposes an ambiguity that really needs to be clarified by ZOS.
It isn't playing multiple accounts at the same time that is against the rules, it's using hardware or software to do so. You highlighted the second part of the sentence but it's the first part that actually contains the bit that is against the rules.
Clearly it's fine to run two accounts and have them both active in order to trade items between your characters. Where the ambiguity comes in is if you have two accounts active on separate machines and instead of trading between characters you run them through a dungeon together. Your highlighting suggests that is against the rules regardless, I would suggest the bit you didn't highlight suggests it's ok as long as you aren't using hardware or software to do so. But what is meant by "hardware or software"?
It would be helpful to get clarification as to whether it is permitted to run two characters on separate accounts and machines, each with separate keyboard and mouse without any additional software or hardware involved, just two sets of computer/monitor/keyboard/mouse arrangements running the default game client without any form of extra assistance. It's the way that a lot of multi-boxers traditionally operate, as I used to do in EQ for example, although I haven't done so in ESO. Here I use a second account simply to allow extra character slots.
"Clearly it's fine to run two accounts and have them both active in order to trade items between your characters."
Where, exactly, is this "clearly" stated by ZOS?
lordrichter wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Multiboxing is "allowed" however you have to be physically controlling both accounts (no programs)
Bruh....
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/23701/kw/Multibox
CAN I MULTIBOX IN THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE: TAMRIEL UNLIMITED?
Updated 11/06/2015 08:11 AM Published 09/04/2014 02:57 PM
Multiboxing is NOT allowed in The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited in any of its forms, whether software- or hardware-based. Any accounts found to be multiboxing will be considered in violation of our Terms of Service and actioned swiftly and decisively, up to the permanent deactivation of the account along with any other associated accounts. To be clear, players are welcome to have multiple accounts. However, using hardware or software to play them all at the same time is not allowed on any ESO service.
Multiboxing is the practice of playing multiple accounts simultaneously, including, but not limited to using either hardware or software to facilitate the coordination between the accounts. This violates the intended nature of the gameplay mechanics we've created for ESO.
The problem is that you've highlighted the wrong bit of the rules, and I think that exposes an ambiguity that really needs to be clarified by ZOS.
It isn't playing multiple accounts at the same time that is against the rules, it's using hardware or software to do so. You highlighted the second part of the sentence but it's the first part that actually contains the bit that is against the rules.
Clearly it's fine to run two accounts and have them both active in order to trade items between your characters. Where the ambiguity comes in is if you have two accounts active on separate machines and instead of trading between characters you run them through a dungeon together. Your highlighting suggests that is against the rules regardless, I would suggest the bit you didn't highlight suggests it's ok as long as you aren't using hardware or software to do so. But what is meant by "hardware or software"?
It would be helpful to get clarification as to whether it is permitted to run two characters on separate accounts and machines, each with separate keyboard and mouse without any additional software or hardware involved, just two sets of computer/monitor/keyboard/mouse arrangements running the default game client without any form of extra assistance. It's the way that a lot of multi-boxers traditionally operate, as I used to do in EQ for example, although I haven't done so in ESO. Here I use a second account simply to allow extra character slots.
"Clearly it's fine to run two accounts and have them both active in order to trade items between your characters."
Where, exactly, is this "clearly" stated by ZOS?
It's rooted in commonsense.
The structure of the game provides for trading between characters on different accounts, whether face-to-face or by mail. What possible reason could ZOS have to permit trading by mail with only one account open while regarding face-to-face trading with both accounts open as a violation of the game's rules? There's no advantage gained from it, and as long as it is not facilitated in any way by the use of additional software or hardware I can see no possibility whatsoever of it being considered a violation and disciplinary action taken against the accounts. Are you suggesting that if I transfer say a few iron ingots from one character to another with both accounts open simultaneously I am likely to have action taken against those accounts? No, it's clearly fine.
As @Judas Helviaryn has stated, it's the issue of automation that is key here. That can become relevant when running xp content with multiple characters simultaneously, but many multi-boxers don't use any form of automation and it would be useful if ZOS confirmed they were not committing a violation of the rules in such circumstances.
Bear in mind also that the only way that multi-boxing can be detected in the first place is through the picking up of automation in the form of third party software or hardware. Unless it is simply against the rules to have multiple accounts open at the same time - which would itself have to be detected in order to be acted upon - how can anyone tell whether it's only one person controlling those accounts at the time? The key to all of this is the use of automation through additional software or hardware to facilitate the running of multiple accounts, not the mere opening of them simultaneously which is why I suggested that @NewBlacksmurf had highlighted the wrong part of the sentence in his earlier quote of ZOS policy on the matter.
Once again, only because they have either no or a useless security team.JamieAubrey wrote: »Totally OK if you dont say you are doing it
ZeroZero77 wrote: »Have 3 Accounts and 3 Golden rules.
* Never make PVP as long as 2 Clients are online
* Never be in the same Zone with Both accounts
* Never make a group with your own Twinkaccount
Cant imagine a Reason why Zos would have any reason to act against me.
Never said anything elseNewBlacksmurf wrote: »...it's completely their call and their decision
ZeroZero77 wrote: »Never said anything elseNewBlacksmurf wrote: »...it's completely their call and their decision
Finally its their game, they can Stop the server and Bann everybody everytime.
ZeroZero77 wrote: »Rules have reasons, and as you can understand if you read the rule and the Comments from Zos Employes, they are fine with my kind of Multiboxing.
The only reason they wrote the Rule as it is, is to deny cheaters arguing.
NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Multiboxing is "allowed" however you have to be physically controlling both accounts (no programs)
Bruh....
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/23701/kw/Multibox
CAN I MULTIBOX IN THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE: TAMRIEL UNLIMITED?
Updated 11/06/2015 08:11 AM Published 09/04/2014 02:57 PM
Multiboxing is NOT allowed in The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited in any of its forms, whether software- or hardware-based. Any accounts found to be multiboxing will be considered in violation of our Terms of Service and actioned swiftly and decisively, up to the permanent deactivation of the account along with any other associated accounts. To be clear, players are welcome to have multiple accounts. However, using hardware or software to play them all at the same time is not allowed on any ESO service.
Multiboxing is the practice of playing multiple accounts simultaneously, including, but not limited to using either hardware or software to facilitate the coordination between the accounts. This violates the intended nature of the gameplay mechanics we've created for ESO.
So how is this enforced??
Who cares...the question is can you afford it to happen?
Banned accounts and or IPs?
They ban you if you're caught, the if being the key word.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Multiboxing is "allowed" however you have to be physically controlling both accounts (no programs)
Bruh....
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/23701/kw/Multibox
CAN I MULTIBOX IN THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE: TAMRIEL UNLIMITED?
Updated 11/06/2015 08:11 AM Published 09/04/2014 02:57 PM
Multiboxing is NOT allowed in The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited in any of its forms, whether software- or hardware-based. Any accounts found to be multiboxing will be considered in violation of our Terms of Service and actioned swiftly and decisively, up to the permanent deactivation of the account along with any other associated accounts. To be clear, players are welcome to have multiple accounts. However, using hardware or software to play them all at the same time is not allowed on any ESO service.
Multiboxing is the practice of playing multiple accounts simultaneously, including, but not limited to using either hardware or software to facilitate the coordination between the accounts. This violates the intended nature of the gameplay mechanics we've created for ESO.
So how is this enforced??
It's not like ZOS has the best track record for security and GM work.
...There is no way to prevent or prove somebody is playing 2 accounts simultaneously....
Other MMO's have enforced it. The problem is it requires good analytics and GM/Security staff to follow up on data found.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Multiboxing is "allowed" however you have to be physically controlling both accounts (no programs)
Bruh....
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/23701/kw/Multibox
CAN I MULTIBOX IN THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE: TAMRIEL UNLIMITED?
Updated 11/06/2015 08:11 AM Published 09/04/2014 02:57 PM
Multiboxing is NOT allowed in The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited in any of its forms, whether software- or hardware-based. Any accounts found to be multiboxing will be considered in violation of our Terms of Service and actioned swiftly and decisively, up to the permanent deactivation of the account along with any other associated accounts. To be clear, players are welcome to have multiple accounts. However, using hardware or software to play them all at the same time is not allowed on any ESO service.
Multiboxing is the practice of playing multiple accounts simultaneously, including, but not limited to using either hardware or software to facilitate the coordination between the accounts. This violates the intended nature of the gameplay mechanics we've created for ESO.
So how is this enforced??
Who cares...the question is can you afford it to happen?
Banned accounts and or IPs?They ban you if you're caught, the if being the key word.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Multiboxing is "allowed" however you have to be physically controlling both accounts (no programs)
Bruh....
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/23701/kw/Multibox
CAN I MULTIBOX IN THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE: TAMRIEL UNLIMITED?
Updated 11/06/2015 08:11 AM Published 09/04/2014 02:57 PM
Multiboxing is NOT allowed in The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited in any of its forms, whether software- or hardware-based. Any accounts found to be multiboxing will be considered in violation of our Terms of Service and actioned swiftly and decisively, up to the permanent deactivation of the account along with any other associated accounts. To be clear, players are welcome to have multiple accounts. However, using hardware or software to play them all at the same time is not allowed on any ESO service.
Multiboxing is the practice of playing multiple accounts simultaneously, including, but not limited to using either hardware or software to facilitate the coordination between the accounts. This violates the intended nature of the gameplay mechanics we've created for ESO.
So how is this enforced??
It's not like ZOS has the best track record for security and GM work.
You guys are clueless and not answering the question. If a player dual boxes - how is that determined? There is no way to enforce this rule.
I think it's kind of funny. There is no way to prevent or prove somebody is playing 2 accounts simultaneously. And here you are fearing a ban or suspension on to them.
Now if a player is using a software hack to play a single or dual box, ZOS can analyze and enforce.
It's rooted in commonsense.
The structure of the game provides for trading between characters on different accounts, whether face-to-face or by mail. What possible reason could ZOS have to permit trading by mail with only one account open while regarding face-to-face trading with both accounts open as a violation of the game's rules? There's no advantage gained from it, and as long as it is not facilitated in any way by the use of additional software or hardware I can see no possibility whatsoever of it being considered a violation and disciplinary action taken against the accounts. Are you suggesting that if I transfer say a few iron ingots from one character to another with both accounts open simultaneously I am likely to have action taken against those accounts? No, it's clearly fine.
As @Judas Helviaryn has stated, it's the issue of automation that is key here. That can become relevant when running xp content with multiple characters simultaneously, but many multi-boxers don't use any form of automation and it would be useful if ZOS confirmed they were not committing a violation of the rules in such circumstances.
Bear in mind also that the only way that multi-boxing can be detected in the first place is through the picking up of automation in the form of third party software or hardware. Unless it is simply against the rules to have multiple accounts open at the same time - which would itself have to be detected in order to be acted upon - how can anyone tell whether it's only one person controlling those accounts at the time? The key to all of this is the use of automation through additional software or hardware to facilitate the running of multiple accounts, not the mere opening of them simultaneously which is why I suggested that @NewBlacksmurf had highlighted the wrong part of the sentence in his earlier quote of ZOS policy on the matter.