Why are so many players begging to be carried through Skyreach?

Tholian1 · May 2017

DragonBound wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

So much begging for this in Craglorn and I have no idea why. What's so special about Skyreach?

Why are players expecting to be carried?

Please enlighten me.

Will you take me through skyreach?

LOL! I'll tell you the same thing I tell the others in Belkarth...

I come to Craglorn for crafting and would love to try Skyreach for the very first time.

Hello?

Kali_Despoine · May 2017

CarbonX wrote: »

DoccEff wrote: »

If it's someones 10th char they probably don't need to be carried.

What do you mean? A 10th character will still be low level at first, with no CPs, not all skills and passives unlocked, probably no shields nor self-healing yet, etc., and so can't handle the groups of mobs inside Skyreach.

When I start a new toon I get all my cp. Not sure why you don't get yours.
Now when I start a new account then I have to build my cp from start.

Linaleah · May 2017

Gargath wrote: »

Absalon wrote: »

Why do you care? Let ppl power lvl their toons. After you lvl 4 toons questing becomes quite boring and no one got time for it. Even though, you stll have to run main quest for soul magic skill line.

I have 8 toons and still don't feel the questing is boring, maybe just not focus on it so hard as before, but use for levelling skils and getting skill points and lore. It's rather the people are living fast today and don't want to immerse much into the game, they do the content quickly and leave game for other pleasures.
But the soul magic skill line - why do you care so much about it? It's a waste of skill points imo.

I don't know about the skill line, but the amount of skill POINTS you get there is just too good to pass up. AND i prefer to fill my own soul shards, which means Soul lock is a must.

CarbonX wrote: »

DoccEff wrote: »

If it's someones 10th char they probably don't need to be carried.

What do you mean? A 10th character will still be low level at first, with no CPs, not all skills and passives unlocked, probably no shields nor self-healing yet, etc., and so can't handle the groups of mobs inside Skyreach.

no skill lines? yeah, but you are wrong on CP. its account-wide, so the moment you create a new character, you can max out your CP points which helps a LOT. ( that and a person with that many characters can either afford to buy, or just craft a nice starter gear)

Mazbt · May 2017

Skyreach grind USED to be somewhat secret months ago and one of my friends was one of the rare people who knew about the grind. Someone spilled the beans. Now everyone and their mother goes in there.

starkerealm · May 2017

Tholian1 wrote: »

DragonBound wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

So much begging for this in Craglorn and I have no idea why. What's so special about Skyreach?

Why are players expecting to be carried?

Please enlighten me.

Will you take me through skyreach?

LOL! I'll tell you the same thing I tell the others in Belkarth...

I come to Craglorn for crafting and would love to try Skyreach for the very first time.

Hello?

Not, "Cry me a river, maybe you can float your way out of Craglorn?"

CarbonX wrote: »

DoccEff wrote: »

If it's someones 10th char they probably don't need to be carried.

What do you mean? A 10th character will still be low level at first, with no CPs, not all skills and passives unlocked, probably no shields nor self-healing yet, etc., and so can't handle the groups of mobs inside Skyreach.

I'm going to take a wild guess and assume you've never reached level 50. Champion Points are account wide. Every character on your account gets them. The only reason one of your characters wouldn't have your full CP value, is if you chose not to spend them. Which, hey, some people do make that choice. I used to. But, CP is there as soon as you want them, (if you have any to spend.)

alexkdd99 · May 2017

jkolb2030 wrote: »

scipionumatia wrote: »

DoccEff wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

F7sus4 wrote: »

And then they come to GF and suck because Skyreach grind gives them 0 ingame XP.

Well if its someone's 10th character, that ain't going to affect anything in terms of play level.

If it's someones 10th char they probably don't need to be carried.

True^ I'm on my 9th toon and I've been soloing on stamplar

I think by "carry" people are simply saying "get me the entire dungeons XP in ~5mins and lets reset" instead of spending 30mins in there killing everything themself and repeating..

Both are fine, but I don't think which character # youre on makes a difference in whether or not you need to be carried lol.

Sure it does. A person who is new and on his first toon will probably need to be carried through Skyreach. While a person on his 10th probably won't need anyone to be carried.

That's like saying experience doesn't make a difference in someone's ability to play. Way off.

Tholian1 · May 2017

starkerealm wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

DragonBound wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

So much begging for this in Craglorn and I have no idea why. What's so special about Skyreach?

Why are players expecting to be carried?

Please enlighten me.

Will you take me through skyreach?

LOL! I'll tell you the same thing I tell the others in Belkarth...

I come to Craglorn for crafting and would love to try Skyreach for the very first time.

Hello?

Not, "Cry me a river, maybe you can float your way out of Craglorn?"

Nah... It doesn't bother me to be asked or to see the begging in chat. I just thought I was missing out on something and wanted to know what all the fuss was about.

Balamoor · May 2017

Never was a fan of power leveling, but if that turns your crank rock on.

Dragonnord · May 2017

I wrote quickly and don't know why I put "No CPs", so forget and remove that. Still, no answers to my statement.

Lavennin · May 2017

Didgerion wrote: »

That's because the game is designed this way!

It is not rewarding to do a single quest unless you reach CP160 level.

All gear you get prior CP160 becomes garbage once you reach CP160!

I encourage all players to spend few hours grinding their CP160 level and then start your questing and exploration experience.

It is so much more rewarding knowing that you get the gear that you can keep forever.

Hmm...but aren't the quest rewards garbage anyway? For decon though that's a good point.

Darlgon · May 2017

Lazy powerleveling.

Nestor · May 2017

Linaleah wrote: »

I feel like I'm doing something wrong, or missing something, because hearing all the "Skyreach is fastest to level" i grabbed my friend and we tried it. clearing the upper part gave use just under a level. it took about half an hour.. ish. granted, neither of us were lvl 50 yet, or anywhere near 600 cp, but... I can level at that speed or faster if i just quest, and its certainly more fun that way.

@Linaleah

There are three Skyreaches. Catacombs is the one you want to be at. The other two are more normal dungeons that don't give all that much experience.

Kartalin · May 2017

LonePirate wrote: »

I received no responses the other day when I asked for Skyreach assistance in helping me earn a single CP. I was paying well, too!

What is that for you, close to one million now?

scorpiodog · May 2017

Tholian1 wrote: »

So much begging for this in Craglorn and I have no idea why. What's so special about Skyreach?

Why are players expecting to be carried?

Please enlighten me.

Several streamers describe it as the best place to grind. Basically the players watch these videos and want to level up quickly but not put in the effort or skill themselves.

RexyCat · May 2017

DoccEff wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

F7sus4 wrote: »

And then they come to GF and suck because Skyreach grind gives them 0 ingame XP.

Well if its someone's 10th character, that ain't going to affect anything in terms of play level.

If it's someones 10th char they probably don't need to be carried.

They should at least have some food or drink before entering and be able to heal themself. Just because one have CP doesn't mean that one can deal with all kind of damage when they drag every possible adds towards you without even talking with you.

LonePirate · May 2017

Kartalin wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

I received no responses the other day when I asked for Skyreach assistance in helping me earn a single CP. I was paying well, too!

What is that for you, close to one million now?

A little over 1.2M. I keep hoping someone who charges by the level or by the CP will accept my plea; but I guess those selling assistance are not truly serious with offering their services.

Linaleah · May 2017

Nestor wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

I feel like I'm doing something wrong, or missing something, because hearing all the "Skyreach is fastest to level" i grabbed my friend and we tried it. clearing the upper part gave use just under a level. it took about half an hour.. ish. granted, neither of us were lvl 50 yet, or anywhere near 600 cp, but... I can level at that speed or faster if i just quest, and its certainly more fun that way.

@Linaleah

There are three Skyreaches. Catacombs is the one you want to be at. The other two are more normal dungeons that don't give all that much experience.

I'm reasonably sure that catacombs is the one we tried. the one with all the ghosts spawning at the firepits and chest event in a back middle that if you die on - de-spawns and you have to reset and do the whole thing over, before you can try again? (and second part is when you go down and down into the caves, though I only got that far once with guild group, don't think I can solo THAT, nowhere near a good enough player for it)

Danksta · May 2017

DoccEff wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

F7sus4 wrote: »

And then they come to GF and suck because Skyreach grind gives them 0 ingame XP.

Well if its someone's 10th character, that ain't going to affect anything in terms of play level.

If it's someones 10th char they probably don't need to be carried.

They do if they want an efficient leveling process, which is the whole point of going there.

LiquidPony · May 2017

DoccEff wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

F7sus4 wrote: »

And then they come to GF and suck because Skyreach grind gives them 0 ingame XP.

Well if its someone's 10th character, that ain't going to affect anything in terms of play level.

If it's someones 10th char they probably don't need to be carried.

That's only true once the character hits level 20-30+, maybe more depending on build. Before that, a lot of people don't have shields, or heals, or good AoE. No point going in there if you can't plow through it and burn everything quickly.

TrueGreenSmoker · May 2017

Good XP for lvling toon's/abilities and passives/class/race/weapon/armour and fighters guild

Danksta · May 2017

Linaleah wrote: »

I feel like I'm doing something wrong, or missing something, because hearing all the "Skyreach is fastest to level" i grabbed my friend and we tried it. clearing the upper part gave use just under a level. it took about half an hour.. ish. granted, neither of us were lvl 50 yet, or anywhere near 600 cp, but... I can level at that speed or faster if i just quest, and its certainly more fun that way.

If it took you a half hour you were doing it wrong. You need to pull the mobs from several areas, stack them up and have your high level buddy drop (insert high damaging ult here) on them. It should take about 5 minutes.

LiquidPony · May 2017

Linaleah wrote: »

I feel like I'm doing something wrong, or missing something, because hearing all the "Skyreach is fastest to level" i grabbed my friend and we tried it. clearing the upper part gave use just under a level. it took about half an hour.. ish. granted, neither of us were lvl 50 yet, or anywhere near 600 cp, but... I can level at that speed or faster if i just quest, and its certainly more fun that way.

It should take about 5 minutes to clear it. Go in with 2 people, one person goes left, the other right, aggro everything and pull it all to the back where the chest is. Burn everything down with AoE. Open the chest, burn everything down. Split up again, and meet back at the entrance. Burn everything down again.

I created a magsorc and leveled it to 50 in one day in Skyreach, during one of the double XP events.

starkerealm · May 2017

Tholian1 wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

DragonBound wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

So much begging for this in Craglorn and I have no idea why. What's so special about Skyreach?

Why are players expecting to be carried?

Please enlighten me.

Will you take me through skyreach?

LOL! I'll tell you the same thing I tell the others in Belkarth...

I come to Craglorn for crafting and would love to try Skyreach for the very first time.

Hello?

Not, "Cry me a river, maybe you can float your way out of Craglorn?"

Nah... It doesn't bother me to be asked or to see the begging in chat. I just thought I was missing out on something and wanted to know what all the fuss was about.

Yeah, but at the same time, how could I not reference that dialog I hear, at least, 12 times a day.

Tholian1 · May 2017

starkerealm wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

DragonBound wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

So much begging for this in Craglorn and I have no idea why. What's so special about Skyreach?

Why are players expecting to be carried?

Please enlighten me.

Will you take me through skyreach?

LOL! I'll tell you the same thing I tell the others in Belkarth...

I come to Craglorn for crafting and would love to try Skyreach for the very first time.

Hello?

Not, "Cry me a river, maybe you can float your way out of Craglorn?"

Nah... It doesn't bother me to be asked or to see the begging in chat. I just thought I was missing out on something and wanted to know what all the fuss was about.

Yeah, but at the same time, how could I not reference that dialog I hear, at least, 12 times a day.

I'm still waiting for the woman next to the wayshrine to get her goods delivered or lose her shirt. One or the other.

Linaleah · May 2017

LiquidPony wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

I feel like I'm doing something wrong, or missing something, because hearing all the "Skyreach is fastest to level" i grabbed my friend and we tried it. clearing the upper part gave use just under a level. it took about half an hour.. ish. granted, neither of us were lvl 50 yet, or anywhere near 600 cp, but... I can level at that speed or faster if i just quest, and its certainly more fun that way.

It should take about 5 minutes to clear it. Go in with 2 people, one person goes left, the other right, aggro everything and pull it all to the back where the chest is. Burn everything down with AoE. Open the chest, burn everything down. Split up again, and meet back at the entrance. Burn everything down again.

I created a magsorc and leveled it to 50 in one day in Skyreach, during one of the double XP events.

how do you survive that? we reduced our pull sizes because even 2 gave us trouble with more then one close call.

Nestor · May 2017

Linaleah wrote: »

I'm reasonably sure that catacombs is the one we tried. the one with all the ghosts spawning at the firepits and chest event in a back middle that if you die on

@Linaleah

I don't think there are any ghosts, just lots of Zombies.

Catacombs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8odZVNgeOI

Hold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H4AE5K44jo

Beardimus · May 2017

The spike is mainly due to some dude power levelling 1-50 in a. Hour something as a record. Video came out then suddenly it gone real popularl. Don't get it myself, grinding is so dull

ArchMikem · May 2017

It's turning into a Business. Every time I go into Belkarth there are people saying in Chat "Want Skyreach runs, 2k per!"

People are seriously paying to group up for a Public Delve...

WhitePawPrints · May 2017

I average Skyreach every seven minutes in 3 pulls. The only thing that takes time is the chest because of the delayed spawns. Pulling in any higher numbers will often put too many decayed circles that heal the undead, and slow everything down.

kargen27 · May 2017

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

F7sus4 wrote: »

And then they come to GF and suck because Skyreach grind gives them 0 ingame XP.

Well if its someone's 10th character, that ain't going to affect anything in terms of play level.

Sure it is. You don't play a stamina DK like you do a magicka templar. Leveling up the traditional way gives you a chance to learn the nuances of the character and get a proper rotation down.

Skyreach is a way for lazy people to quickly level a character so they can then a week later say they are bored with the game because there is nothing for their fully leveled character to do.