When Is Cyrodil's Performance Going to Be Fixed?

Shadow_Viper_vX · April 2017

Those on consoles are the hardest hit by these lag/performance issues

Shadow_Viper_vX · April 2017

The lag in most cities at peak times can be more than a little annoying.

Shadow_Viper_vX · April 2017

Reminder, these lag/performance issues don't just effect PVP and Cyrodil

Shadow_Viper_vX · May 2017

Cyrodil of course is the hardest hit by these issues when they flare up.

raglau · May 2017

Issue is, the PvP population represents a miniscule sliver of the ESO customer base.

Ask yourself this, if ZOS still can't be bothered to fix the only PvE grouping tool in a group focused, primarily PvE game, when that tool has been broken since release, what likelihood is there that they'll expend any resource on fixing PvP performance?

Now, PvP performance may be improved as a by product of moving to DirectX12, which at some point they'll be forced to do due to vendor support, but they will not go out of their way to fix such a small part of the game. We can all tell by now it's all about the money honey with ZOS, and PvP players simply do not represent a meaningful amount of revenue.

Shadow_Viper_vX · May 2017

But again, it's an issue that does effect the entire game.

It is just more noticeable and frequent in Cyrodil.

I'm campaigning for no lag in Cyrodil, no lag at peak times in cities.

That's why I want attention to be kept on this issue and the word keep being spread.

G0ku · May 2017

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

As a person that played PC launch and both PS4 and currently Xbox. PVP was amazing at the beginning. Yes there was one broken build with Mag DK Vamps but it got fixed and yes there were patches weekly almost at the beginning. But the performance was amazing compared to now and how the combat was in PVP was totally different then now and took a lot more skill back then IMO. Now there are too many broken builds i think. Would give anything to have PVP like it use to be but Console players just dont get it when i have tried to explain. But i had a guy in my group in Cyrodiil jump in and back me cause he was at PC launch too and he was like you guys have no clue how awesome it use to be. Also a TON of PVPers quit due to combat changes like soft caps being removed and performance issues. The PVP player base use to be HUGE.

I´m sorry but the claim pvp was running amazing pn PC start is utter bullcrap. Server rerolls en masse, getting kicked out all the time. Performance was better but server stability sucked bigtime.

Answer to OP: NEVER, I will pvp nontheless

lunalitetempler · May 2017

Well I'm hoping there will be some more improvement next patch? I mean I have no idea but surely the changes to some skills scaling of max lvl instead on max stats and cp nerf have to be simpler calculations right? Zergs shouldn't be able to go for as long as they do currently. No idea just wishful thinking, I kind of gave up on cp PvP ages ago. I stay in azura because the performance is just so great comparatively. I even prefer it, now that BGS are coming....I'll just take that and run because I remember what it was like about a year ago. Would be nice if they fix cp PvP one day but for now I'm quite happy with BGS and azura.

reiverx · May 2017

raglau wrote: »

Issue is, the PvP population represents a miniscule sliver of the ESO customer base.

Ask yourself this, if ZOS still can't be bothered to fix the only PvE grouping tool in a group focused, primarily PvE game, when that tool has been broken since release, what likelihood is there that they'll expend any resource on fixing PvP performance?

Now, PvP performance may be improved as a by product of moving to DirectX12, which at some point they'll be forced to do due to vendor support, but they will not go out of their way to fix such a small part of the game. We can all tell by now it's all about the money honey with ZOS, and PvP players simply do not represent a meaningful amount of revenue.

I'm curious. What do PVE players buy that PVP players don't?

zaria · May 2017

Shadow_Viper_vX wrote: »

Honestly should be at the top of the priority list since the lag/performance hit affects the entire game, just most noticeable in Cyrodil.

Yes, think the vMoL issue on One is much of the same problem.

MurderMostFoul · May 2017

I played on PC at lauch, then PS4, now on XB1.

Cyrodiil performance has always had serious issues, but only during massive fights. I main XB1 NA Azura's Star now. Fights rarely involve more than 20 players, and there are no performance issues. It's unfortunately that the game is billed as featuring massive 100v100v100 battles but it can barely deliver them. However, for me personally, I've always preferred small scale fights. So Azura's Star is perfect.

Also, because of my preference for small scale, once Morrowind drops, I'll be pretty much BGs only, and I haven't heard anything about performance issues there. So while this isn't a fix, for those who prefer small scale, there are workarounds.

Duiwel · May 2017

Kay1 · May 2017

raglau wrote: »

Issue is, the PvP population represents a miniscule sliver of the ESO customer base.

Ask yourself this, if ZOS still can't be bothered to fix the only PvE grouping tool in a group focused, primarily PvE game, when that tool has been broken since release, what likelihood is there that they'll expend any resource on fixing PvP performance?

Now, PvP performance may be improved as a by product of moving to DirectX12, which at some point they'll be forced to do due to vendor support, but they will not go out of their way to fix such a small part of the game. We can all tell by now it's all about the money honey with ZOS, and PvP players simply do not represent a meaningful amount of revenue.

PvP communities are usually the ones that makes the most revenue in the long term, not only they buy more cosmetic stuff to brag but the PvP community is always happy, you give them 5 maps per year and they won't ask you for anything while most PvE players ask for 5 raids and 20 dungeons per year, also the PvP community usually never leaves because PvP never gets boring no matter how many hour you've played it every day is different while some people leave PvE because it gets repetitive (in this game tho, Guild Wars 2 PvE is so good that PvE is crowded of PvP players)

Enslaved · May 2017

Flaminir · May 2017

Actually... I have noticed a big improvement over the past 6 months.... its not perfect, but def a bit better.

Shadow_Viper_vX · May 2017

Glad to hear that but it's still important to keep the word being spread and keep pressure on this issue.

Shadow_Viper_vX · May 2017

Flaminir wrote: »

Actually... I have noticed a big improvement over the past 6 months.... its not perfect, but def a bit better.

Hope ZOS continues to make improvements.

Important for people not to stay silent about the lag issues

flguy147ub17_ESO · May 2017

Since i have came back and now PVP 7 times now which is why i bought the game. Wanted to get my CP up a little. It has been horrible, have yet to have a good night with it. My abilities dont go off, CC break doesnt work half the time. I am on Xbox fwiw but i was hoping it would have improved but basically lost all hope now. Really leaning towards unsubbing now and finally being done, love a lot about the game but when i cant PVP without performance issues its horrible

t3hdubzy · May 2017

They will probably run some test where they double ap in cyrodil and remove cp. Then they wont have any communication about it, in hopes that battlegrounds will alleviate strain on cyrodil.

When it doesnt work they will give us a generic line like "we are constantly researching this issue and continue to make tweaks and balances". This gets them into 2019.

Mondini · May 2017

who cares about cyro with battlegrounds coming! queue response from Gina which everybody praises her for

D0ntevenL1ft · May 2017

It'll be fixed when all classes become balanced; never.

Shadow_Viper_vX · May 2017

More people need to speak up and keep pressure on this issue.

Shadow_Viper_vX · May 2017

I feel the top most important issues right now that need addressed/fixed ASAP are the lag/performance and the group/dungeon finder.

c0rp · May 2017

Beta PVP is what sold me on this game. It was HUNDREDS of people on screen at keeps and the game ran so well lol. I remember thinking to myself, "these guys really know what they are doing to get this to run so well with so many people" HAHAH. It's too bad they sacrificed that performance to kill bots.

Shadow_Viper_vX · May 2017

Just as the video suggested

ZOS needs to remove all the automatic anti-bot measures and dedicate a small team of staff to 'bot killing'

It seems that's the only way this issue will truly be fixed

Reverb · May 2017

The second Tuesday of Never

Shadow_Viper_vX · May 2017

It's good to be positive ;-)

Shadow_Viper_vX · May 2017

Cyrodil/Imperial City are in desperate need of an overhaul, ZOS will continue to neglect them until more people are vocal, are spreading the word and pressuring issue.

t3hdubzy · May 2017

Shadow_Viper_vX wrote: »

Cyrodil/Imperial City are in desperate need of an overhaul, ZOS will continue to neglect them until more people are vocal, are spreading the word and pressuring issue.

I honestly dont think being vocal matters, they dont respond to these threads, they ignore them and dont communicate. They probably know the solution but arent interested in spending the money and resources

DreadKnight · May 2017

It will never be fixed, don't you get it?

They already blew the budget on the current setup/config, now they are just milking the game, there will never be a fix, it is what it is and nothing we say or do will ever change it.