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2 Person VMA Option Would Benefit ESO
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lardvader✭✭✭✭✭Yes I support this!
And it's not about making it easy - it's about playing with others. Yes we have DSA but why not MA as well? Just adjust the difficulty/health for the enemies to the number of people who run the thing.
I don't mind the difficulty of vMA and it's nice to have some end game stuff to work for, but it's so incredibly boring to spend all that time in the arena all alone.CP 1200+ PC EU EP0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »Horowonnoe wrote: »Dude its really not that hard. I did it today on my sorc while cramping on my period. Just get it done.
1...ew.
2- I support the idea having completed in stamplar and stamblade. It ain't about "being hard".
3- I'd love to run with my buddies in an MMO.
I say we either hAve a seperate leaderboard for pairs or just don't score it, otherwise everything's the same.
I agree that I prefer to run with people, it is why I play an MMO. However, vMA is designed as a single person instance and would take much work to redesign it for groups.
I guess they would remove the vMA weapons and allow people to just duo it for fun. Would have no objection if it was done that way.Edited by idk on May 10, 2017 12:46PM0 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭A duo vMA would be fine, but you shouldn't get vMA weapons from it.Daggerfall Covenant
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GrumpyDuckling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes I support this!
And it's not about making it easy - it's about playing with others. Yes we have DSA but why not MA as well? Just adjust the difficulty/health for the enemies to the number of people who run the thing.
I don't mind the difficulty of vMA and it's nice to have some end game stuff to work for, but it's so incredibly boring to spend all that time in the arena all alone.
Thank you for getting the point - it is about playing with others, especially in a game that allows and encourages team play in every other facet (outside the main story quests every 5 levels).0 -
MakoFore✭✭✭✭✭
✭Id be behind this- but they'd have to doulbe the health of every mob to compensate- and perhaps limit weapon cp or traits somehow. doing maelstrom is one of the prouder things in the game- and my weapons are a trophy of that. i don't ike the idea of players being able to get them so easily by going in with a healer. it dilutes the achievement itself.0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Agree with op-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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t3hdubzy✭✭✭✭Vma is too long and has too much of a learning curve for me to want to try and complete only to be fristrated at crappy rewards later. Fix the rng and i might care.1 -
GrumpyDuckling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Id be behind this- but they'd have to doulbe the health of every mob to compensate- and perhaps limit weapon cp or traits somehow. doing maelstrom is one of the prouder things in the game- and my weapons are a trophy of that. i don't ike the idea of players being able to get them so easily by going in with a healer. it dilutes the achievement itself.
I understand your feelings, and sometimes I feel the same way.
The only problem I have with myself when I start feeling that way is that it's not fair to some of the amazing healers in the game. Healing is very much a skill, but VMA (in its current state) is more about fast damage and keeping yourself alive (while doing damage). There's not much chance for a skilled healer to shine, especially skilled healers who excel at keeping teammates alive (because obviously, right now, VMA is single player).0 -
seedubsrun✭✭✭✭Essentially what would happen is what we already see with Trials: people who never could beat the arena on their own would just pay for carries to get the weapons.
If you wanted to prevent this ZOS would have to redesign the whole arena because with 2 players vMA becomes as easy as normal is at the moment. I'd rather have them deliver a 2 player arena as DLC with new content than fiddling with an arena that is already more than a year old.
Completely agree with you. My friend and I dream of future 2 man content as the rest of our group can't play as much as we can. It would definitely have to be a new arena that required top level communication so you couldn't just have paying noobs finishing it. The possibilities are amazing and should really be considered. Especially since the resource nerfs coming up make some Maelstrom weapons like daggers a lot less useful. A nice way to combat the negativity out there surrounding Morrowind right now would be something new and fun like this. C'mon Zos0 -
strikeback1247✭✭✭✭✭
✭Be careful with what you wish for. ZoS would probably just double all the stats of all mobs and that's it.P.A.W.S. - Positively Against Wild Sasquatches - NO TO BIGFOOT!0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭strikeback1247 wrote: »Be careful with what you wish for. ZoS would probably just double all the stats of all mobs and that's it.
If that will allows 2 players to enter I am fine with that they can even triple the stats.1 -
Guys chill . I run an mdk, you know... hard mode . I completed it on pts now problem. Just not as fast . Even got an infused destro for my time . I am not a top rated player either. I am a nobodyI don't give free items because it's a just game. Play the game.
I give free items because it's just a game. Play the game.
I understand both. I am the contradiction.0 -
Kay1✭✭✭✭✭
✭I would love it, but if it comes with a new difficulty!
Clockwork City wasn't going to be vMsa 2?K1 The Big Monkey0 -
DDemon✭✭✭✭VMA is easy, having luck on your side to get the weapon you want from the RNG machine is hard.0 -
AuT6GHad✭I would love to see some challanges/dungeons/arenas for a group of two players.
But VMA would be way too easy...0 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I do not think we need a 3 man arena as we have solo one (VMA) and four players group! (VDSA)
We need buff to VMA and VDSA weapons, if we go with another arena and same qeaker weapons then there is no meaning!0 -
GrumpyDuckling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭MarriedWithChildren wrote: »Guys chill . I run an mdk, you know... hard mode . I completed it on pts now problem. Just not as fast . Even got an infused destro for my time . I am not a top rated player either. I am a nobody
I'm on ice... haha what does that have to do with the option for a 2 player VMA?0 -
TARAFRAKA✭✭✭✭✭Sheva I 7 I wrote: »I think VMA should have some option that
if u want u should be able to make SOLO
if u want DUO
If u WANT for people...
when u want to go solo go solo..
when u dont have enough people go 2 people
when u have friend and try to have fun go 4 people...
and the level of hardness and easiness should scale how many people u are going in...
Thats called dragonstar arena you pug
He specifically said it should scale with the number of people that is not Dragon Star...0 -
Destroys the most prevalent argument in the thread . I say request 2 man content. I mean with the way ZOS does things with balance they'd destroy vMA lol.Edited by MarriedWithChildren on May 11, 2017 7:47PMI don't give free items because it's a just game. Play the game.
I give free items because it's just a game. Play the game.
I understand both. I am the contradiction.0 -
GrumpyDuckling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭MarriedWithChildren wrote: »Destroys the most prevalent argument in the thread . I say request 2 man content. I mean with the way ZOS does things with balance they'd destroy vMA lol.
Haha I see where you're coming from. Hopefully they wouldn't touch single player VMA, but simply add the ability to enter with two people. If it ever happens, then I just hope it won't be as wonky as using dungeon finder (random disconnects, removing from area timers with full groups, etc).0