Some say P2W purely because it's a class behind a paywall. Some say Warden will outclass Templars as healers. Others have said they will perform heal/tank biroll better than Templar. Others still say it because of the nerfs to currently existing skills.

It's pretty unfounded over-all from what I've seen.

I think they offer a lot of good support spells. I also like the design of the class. I don't think it will be p2w at all. They don't seem to offer much in dps though.

I think magicka will be good as a warden. I'm not really enjoying stamina much in this game anymore, no matter the class they don't seem to be the best option.

New classes always have hype. Doesn't mean they will be overpowered.

What's it matter?

If you like the class; play it.

If you don't like the class, don't play it

Simple

Pointless Thread is Pointless

I am not sure what the NDA rules are on what I can and cannot say here.

I will discuss Alcasts video I guess.
Basically everyones DPS has been dropped significantly on the next patch. So Stam Wardens DPS is actually fine... i wouldn't say good but fine.

They can self provide, Minor Beserk, Major Fracture and Major Brutality which makes them quite good solo.

It is kind of the animations that are slowing the warden down atm, and there has already been a buff in that regaurd with the Betty Netch.

It is my opinion it would not take much to buff the Stam warden to good dps instead of fine that can easily be done before release or soon after.

I think MagDPS warden is in much more trouble dps wise but they also have access to a lot more ultility. You might notice from Alcasts video that also there seems to be a bug or two with spell crit and warden abilities. Again likely to be fixed before release.

O_LYKOS wrote: »

People use the phrase p2w when they don't know the facts.

Around here, they also cry, "P2W," when they want something but don't want to pay for it. Which pretty much covers the situation with the Warden on the boards.

me personally ,

i didnt like the WARDEN at all... it come so boring to me...

TANK: DK is great...animations and flames are awesome...it has charisma
Healar: Templar is the best...again animations are great...and skills (were)awesome.. till ZOS DESTROYS THEM
DPS: Sorcerer iis numero 1...


As a healar Warden... it is too much cute flowers on animations for me...
As a TANK skills are boring to play to me...
DPS: there isnt any fun to play as dps that i tried...


but as a result... They gave almost everything all classes has and all uniqueness taken and giving to warden...THAT IS ALSO SO BORING...

Warden's will be the new solo meta in PvP. They have all the abilities to self sustain that they gutted from DK and Templar.