Pirate Skeleton and Shields

Waffennacht · May 2017

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Well, I wish IG was reliable, really do. But it barely hits once often enough. Also, no crit, unlike Slimecraw. This is for open world Cyro, of course.

EG... Yoah, depends on the sustain meta. It might become BiS. I wanna see the ultimate changes though, test if that regen is noticeable with all the heavy attacks.

I dunno. I find it depressing. We're being led by ZOS into playing exactly how they want, not us. Kinda toxic approach, if you ask me.

You can gain a few options if you open up your playstyle too. TK, and Bloodspawn are both good sets, when combined with a tanky build.

Shadowrend reminds me a lot of skoria, but you're gonna need 3 or 4 reliable dots. They are a bit harder to come by on a sorc.

But no, nothing as cool as Selene or Veli

Lord-Otto · May 2017

Yeah, the last part, really. Stamina bias is real, but I'm sure someone will come now and tell us how OP magicka is.
(^_-)

LordSlif · May 2017

yeah Bloodspawn is good

Derra · May 2017

Infernal guardian scales really well with itself.

The more people wearing it the better it gets.

LordSlif · May 2017

IG is a good set for socs

HowlKimchi · May 2017

aaaaaand it's nerfed.

happy days

Lord-Otto · May 2017

MikArrior wrote: »

aaaaaand it's nerfed.

happy days

Fool.
It got buffed for tanks. You know, the zerglings who infest Cyridiil and just block and root you until their zerg has arrived.
You'll be back to crying about it.

ToRelax · May 2017

Uhm, I'm not even sure whether this will be a nerf or a buff for Pirate Skeleton on my Sorc... certainly won't make a big difference though.

Lord-Otto · May 2017

ToRelax wrote: »

Uhm, I'm not even sure whether this will be a nerf or a buff for Pirate Skeleton on my Sorc... certainly won't make a big difference though.

A heavy nerf. Typical sorc can't take many hits in light armor without shields to proc it.

LordSlif · May 2017

this patch have put a time bomb on sorcs shields, we just need wait

Waffennacht · May 2017

Onto Troll King now?

Lord-Otto · May 2017

While waiting is always a reasonable option, we already have a few insights.

Shields are terrible in group fights, which is why Skelly became so popular. No stamblade back then used Chudan over Veli, to compare. Given how zergy Cyro is... Sorcs will die left and right.

Tanks are still overpowered. Sustain comes from heavy armor passive, not regen. With people losing dps due to sustain issues, they will become truly unkillable. And while so, they have the very same damage potential as a dps build. Not that they need it, they travel in zergs and root spam you.

Escaping from zergs, btw, will also become difficult. I already barely have resources for Streak. With less sustain and being forced to heavy attack to not run dry? Impossible.

My guess is we'll see even more tank zergs with destro trains in 'em. Because normal fights will be pointless.
Now, I could be wrong, but... we'll see.

ToRelax · May 2017

Lord-Otto wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Uhm, I'm not even sure whether this will be a nerf or a buff for Pirate Skeleton on my Sorc... certainly won't make a big difference though.

A heavy nerf. Typical sorc can't take many hits in light armor without shields to proc it.

I hope so. Would make killing typical Sorcs a lot easier.

Lord-Otto · May 2017

ToRelax wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Uhm, I'm not even sure whether this will be a nerf or a buff for Pirate Skeleton on my Sorc... certainly won't make a big difference though.

A heavy nerf. Typical sorc can't take many hits in light armor without shields to proc it.

I hope so. Would make killing typical Sorcs a lot easier.

It's already incredibly easy. You take two people and dps them down. Shields only hold for 1v1 encounters.
Dodge is much, much better in group fights.

Moglijuana · May 2017

Lol. They buffed it while calling a nerf. GG.

Minalan · May 2017

Moglijuana wrote: »

Lol. They buffed it while calling a nerf. GG.

It's nerfed for light armor sorcs. I can see any LA 21K health Sorcs procing this set from health when they'll basically get two-shot with shields down.

Moglijuana · May 2017

Minalan wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Lol. They buffed it while calling a nerf. GG.

It's nerfed for light armor sorcs. I can see any LA 21K health Sorcs procing this set from health when they'll basically get two-shot with shields down.

We'll see, the good sorcs I know are saying they'll just rely on one shield to let their health get hit just a bit till it procs (since it now will proc all the time at 8%) and just continue as normal. Nerf for bad shield stackers, buff for good shield stackers.

LordSlif · May 2017

Moglijuana wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Lol. They buffed it while calling a nerf. GG.

It's nerfed for light armor sorcs. I can see any LA 21K health Sorcs procing this set from health when they'll basically get two-shot with shields down.

We'll see, the good sorcs I know are saying they'll just rely on one shield to let their health get hit just a bit till it procs (since it now will proc all the time at 8%) and just continue as normal. Nerf for bad shield stackers, buff for good shield stackers.

Maybe

danno8 · May 2017

Moglijuana wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Lol. They buffed it while calling a nerf. GG.

It's nerfed for light armor sorcs. I can see any LA 21K health Sorcs procing this set from health when they'll basically get two-shot with shields down.

We'll see, the good sorcs I know are saying they'll just rely on one shield to let their health get hit just a bit till it procs (since it now will proc all the time at 8%) and just continue as normal. Nerf for bad shield stackers, buff for good shield stackers.

It's currently at 6% on live. Not sure why some think it will proc "all the time" going from 6 to 8%, but they are welcome to let their shields drop to give it a shot.

LordSlif · May 2017

danno8 wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Lol. They buffed it while calling a nerf. GG.

It's nerfed for light armor sorcs. I can see any LA 21K health Sorcs procing this set from health when they'll basically get two-shot with shields down.

We'll see, the good sorcs I know are saying they'll just rely on one shield to let their health get hit just a bit till it procs (since it now will proc all the time at 8%) and just continue as normal. Nerf for bad shield stackers, buff for good shield stackers.

It's currently at 6% on live. Not sure why some think it will proc "all the time" going from 6 to 8%, but they are welcome to let their shields drop to give it a shot.

Yup

Minalan · May 2017

Moglijuana wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Lol. They buffed it while calling a nerf. GG.

It's nerfed for light armor sorcs. I can see any LA 21K health Sorcs procing this set from health when they'll basically get two-shot with shields down.

We'll see, the good sorcs I know are saying they'll just rely on one shield to let their health get hit just a bit till it procs (since it now will proc all the time at 8%) and just continue as normal. Nerf for bad shield stackers, buff for good shield stackers.

Incap, viper proc, veli proc, execute isn't going to proc pirate skeleton with your shields down, you're just going to die.

I'd be happy to demonstrate, but I'm sure there are better nightblades out there who will.

Biro123 · May 2017

Minalan wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Lol. They buffed it while calling a nerf. GG.

It's nerfed for light armor sorcs. I can see any LA 21K health Sorcs procing this set from health when they'll basically get two-shot with shields down.

We'll see, the good sorcs I know are saying they'll just rely on one shield to let their health get hit just a bit till it procs (since it now will proc all the time at 8%) and just continue as normal. Nerf for bad shield stackers, buff for good shield stackers.

Incap, viper proc, veli proc, execute isn't going to proc pirate skeleton with your shields down, you're just going to die.

I'd be happy to demonstrate, but I'm sure there are better nightblades out there who will.

Or just a straight heavy attack..:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/341470/sorc-op#latest

SanTii.92 · May 2017

Sorcs won't be using this set anymore. period.

Moglijuana · May 2017

Biro123 wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Lol. They buffed it while calling a nerf. GG.

It's nerfed for light armor sorcs. I can see any LA 21K health Sorcs procing this set from health when they'll basically get two-shot with shields down.

We'll see, the good sorcs I know are saying they'll just rely on one shield to let their health get hit just a bit till it procs (since it now will proc all the time at 8%) and just continue as normal. Nerf for bad shield stackers, buff for good shield stackers.

Incap, viper proc, veli proc, execute isn't going to proc pirate skeleton with your shields down, you're just going to die.

I'd be happy to demonstrate, but I'm sure there are better nightblades out there who will.

Or just a straight heavy attack..:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/341470/sorc-op#latest

Hey that's my heavy XD.

Actually, each one of those attacks has an 8% chance to proc it (as long as health is touched)...that's how RNG works lol.

I use it on my L.A. DK when I'm solo and the way it works on live is basically a buff with the upcoming change. I use only use harness which is never enough anyways to stop all incoming damage. My health always gets touched regardless (this will be the same with good sorcs). Mix it with mist form = 3% buff really.

But Bloodspawn is bae anyways.

Waffennacht · May 2017

Moglijuana wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Lol. They buffed it while calling a nerf. GG.

It's nerfed for light armor sorcs. I can see any LA 21K health Sorcs procing this set from health when they'll basically get two-shot with shields down.

We'll see, the good sorcs I know are saying they'll just rely on one shield to let their health get hit just a bit till it procs (since it now will proc all the time at 8%) and just continue as normal. Nerf for bad shield stackers, buff for good shield stackers.

Incap, viper proc, veli proc, execute isn't going to proc pirate skeleton with your shields down, you're just going to die.

I'd be happy to demonstrate, but I'm sure there are better nightblades out there who will.

Or just a straight heavy attack..:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/341470/sorc-op#latest

Hey that's my heavy XD.

Actually, each one of those attacks has an 8% chance to proc it (as long as health is touched)...that's how RNG works lol.

I use it on my L.A. DK when I'm solo and the way it works on live is basically a buff with the upcoming change. I use only use harness which is never enough anyways to stop all incoming damage. My health always gets touched regardless (this will be the same with good sorcs). Mix it with mist form = 3% buff really.

But Bloodspawn is bae anyways.

But DKs have tools to survive direct damage, an LA sorcerer has like 0 heals, and with the only one ward idea, you'll still see a massive reduction in proc

LordSlif · May 2017

Yeah u cant compare LA Dk with LA Sorc

Moglijuana · May 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Lol. They buffed it while calling a nerf. GG.

It's nerfed for light armor sorcs. I can see any LA 21K health Sorcs procing this set from health when they'll basically get two-shot with shields down.

We'll see, the good sorcs I know are saying they'll just rely on one shield to let their health get hit just a bit till it procs (since it now will proc all the time at 8%) and just continue as normal. Nerf for bad shield stackers, buff for good shield stackers.

Incap, viper proc, veli proc, execute isn't going to proc pirate skeleton with your shields down, you're just going to die.

I'd be happy to demonstrate, but I'm sure there are better nightblades out there who will.

Or just a straight heavy attack..:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/341470/sorc-op#latest

Hey that's my heavy XD.

Actually, each one of those attacks has an 8% chance to proc it (as long as health is touched)...that's how RNG works lol.

I use it on my L.A. DK when I'm solo and the way it works on live is basically a buff with the upcoming change. I use only use harness which is never enough anyways to stop all incoming damage. My health always gets touched regardless (this will be the same with good sorcs). Mix it with mist form = 3% buff really.

But Bloodspawn is bae anyways.

But DKs have tools to survive direct damage, an LA sorcerer has like 0 heals, and with the only one ward idea, you'll still see a massive reduction in proc

true true

Arkangeloski · May 2017

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Teheheee!

Yeah, go ahead! Nerf it!
Nerf my monster set that only shines in 1vX. Make me use Shadowrend with Necropotence instead, so that I can nuke your butt with the increased magicka. And make me frontbar both shields to effect them with Necro so I don't even have to switch bars for shieldstack!

Excellent idea! Can't wait for the follow-up threads whining about OP Necrosorcs!
Go ahead, shoot yourself in the foot. In the end, seasoned sorcs will kick your butt no matter what! Yes, that rhymed!
>=3

Only good in duels bruh, camp in mines get the line of sight from your pets, lawl try that on open world and get reckt

LordSlif · May 2017

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Teheheee!

Yeah, go ahead! Nerf it!
Nerf my monster set that only shines in 1vX. Make me use Shadowrend with Necropotence instead, so that I can nuke your butt with the increased magicka. And make me frontbar both shields to effect them with Necro so I don't even have to switch bars for shieldstack!

Excellent idea! Can't wait for the follow-up threads whining about OP Necrosorcs!
Go ahead, shoot yourself in the foot. In the end, seasoned sorcs will kick your butt no matter what! Yes, that rhymed!
>=3

lol it is so funny, first time I'm reading this lol. the "nerf" is necessary bro

Waffennacht · May 2017

I can't wait till the 6th... So much I wanna post about... In the new environment Sorcs gonna get mad hate...

OMG... I can't wait!