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Imperial City: No ways to run!

boobafinno
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I bought Imperial City DLC a couple weeks ago, and there is a one thing i noticed: there are no ways to run in Imperial City! I mean, while i am farming tel var stones, and if i see incoming zerg rush, and they already spotted me too - i have no chance to escape from them! Even if i sucessfully ran to Sewer's entrance(or another disctrict entrance) - i cant interact with it!
I guess ZOS should to add some ways to escape - give farmers a little chance to safe their lifes against zergrush. of course it shouldn't be easy, and it shouldn't be on the bosses routes....
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    bingo...one of the reasons IC is so thrilling...unlike most other spots in tamriel - dying actually has some consequences in IC...

    if you were able to hide or find a "safe" zone, you used to be able to travel to friends/guildmates...now, the only way out is to travel to another campaign...
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  • boobafinno
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    at least ZOS should to unlock sewer's hatches while incombat status - it would give a little chance to escape, but still long way to run
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    Don't hold too many Vel Tar stones. Put them in your bank so they can't be stolen. I keep my multiplier at about 3x, and will deposit the rest when I can.
  • Avalon
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    And this is why PVP ****es me off in ESO. I love when PVP players shrug my complaints off, or worse, they imply that PVP players have just as much a difficulty in getting gear etc as PVE players do. But, question, Where do I, as a PVE player, have access to the absolute best and most important runestone in the game, Hakeijo, without doing PVE? Oh yeah, only on the guild traders, and they are almost always not there, and when they are, the PVP players know they can gouge the hell out of PVE players for them. So, yeah, I'm extremely angry with the decision to force PVE players into PVP just to become competitive in PVE.

    Sorry, I have never had the urge to play any RPG and kill other players, and my reflexes, tactics, etc, just my mentality, does not lead me to be anything in PVP, I suck horribly at it because I am not built that way... I excel in PVE, however. They need to understand they have a game where a LOT of people love the world and lore, and just want to group with friends and go adventuring. So, split PVP and PVE, create an all PVE area for Cyrodiil and IC. By locking away some of the absolute best gear in the game behind PVP walls, they are ostracizing a lot of players.
  • WhitePawPrints
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    Avalon wrote: »
    And this is why PVP ****es me off in ESO. I love when PVP players shrug my complaints off, or worse, they imply that PVP players have just as much a difficulty in getting gear etc as PVE players do. But, question, Where do I, as a PVE player, have access to the absolute best and most important runestone in the game, Hakeijo, without doing PVE? Oh yeah, only on the guild traders, and they are almost always not there, and when they are, the PVP players know they can gouge the hell out of PVE players for them. So, yeah, I'm extremely angry with the decision to force PVE players into PVP just to become competitive in PVE.

    Sorry, I have never had the urge to play any RPG and kill other players, and my reflexes, tactics, etc, just my mentality, does not lead me to be anything in PVP, I suck horribly at it because I am not built that way... I excel in PVE, however. They need to understand they have a game where a LOT of people love the world and lore, and just want to group with friends and go adventuring. So, split PVP and PVE, create an all PVE area for Cyrodiil and IC. By locking away some of the absolute best gear in the game behind PVP walls, they are ostracizing a lot of players.

    Hmm, Tel Var sets aren't that great, and neither is the Hakeijo rune. Of everything from Cyrodil and any PVP areas, I only am using one set from it, Vengeance Leech, and that's on a new guy I'm trying a new build on.
  • Avalon
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    Avalon wrote: »
    And this is why PVP ****es me off in ESO. I love when PVP players shrug my complaints off, or worse, they imply that PVP players have just as much a difficulty in getting gear etc as PVE players do. But, question, Where do I, as a PVE player, have access to the absolute best and most important runestone in the game, Hakeijo, without doing PVE? Oh yeah, only on the guild traders, and they are almost always not there, and when they are, the PVP players know they can gouge the hell out of PVE players for them. So, yeah, I'm extremely angry with the decision to force PVE players into PVP just to become competitive in PVE.

    Sorry, I have never had the urge to play any RPG and kill other players, and my reflexes, tactics, etc, just my mentality, does not lead me to be anything in PVP, I suck horribly at it because I am not built that way... I excel in PVE, however. They need to understand they have a game where a LOT of people love the world and lore, and just want to group with friends and go adventuring. So, split PVP and PVE, create an all PVE area for Cyrodiil and IC. By locking away some of the absolute best gear in the game behind PVP walls, they are ostracizing a lot of players.

    Hmm, Tel Var sets aren't that great, and neither is the Hakeijo rune. Of everything from Cyrodil and any PVP areas, I only am using one set from it, Vengeance Leech, and that's on a new guy I'm trying a new build on.

    First, I'm guessing you aren't playing a tank... they need health + another stat (stamina normally, but magicka in some cases), which makes infused on armor + prismatic defense glyphs the optimal setup.

    Second, the only way to do that, is to either farm TVS to buy the 5K (cheap!!) runestones, or to spend 10-15K per stone on trader (if you get off lucky, have seen them up to 20K, and then have to have a high enchanting, know someone, or etc), or, just buy the glyphs on trader when they can be found (which can range up to 30-40K per)... those prices don't seem all that bad, just farm the cash, right? Except, when ZOS keeps modifying things, over and over, that means new sets, new glyphs, etc etc. It becomes a MASSIVE cash sink. I am certain that some players have tons of cash, and that is awesome for them, they probably do PVP though, and that might explain why (they farm the TVS, and purchase the stones extremely cheap!)
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    The auto-door lock is kinda bs, agreed. It's worst when either of you is just coming through the door.

    Best you can hope for is breaking line of sight and crouching. Even then, the more distance between you and them, the better.

    There are also invis potions, speed potions, etc.

    If you're going to solo, expect to rely on stealth and caution.
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

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  • IronCrystal
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    Avalon wrote: »
    And this is why PVP ****es me off in ESO. I love when PVP players shrug my complaints off, or worse, they imply that PVP players have just as much a difficulty in getting gear etc as PVE players do. But, question, Where do I, as a PVE player, have access to the absolute best and most important runestone in the game, Hakeijo, without doing PVE? Oh yeah, only on the guild traders, and they are almost always not there, and when they are, the PVP players know they can gouge the hell out of PVE players for them. So, yeah, I'm extremely angry with the decision to force PVE players into PVP just to become competitive in PVE.

    Sorry, I have never had the urge to play any RPG and kill other players, and my reflexes, tactics, etc, just my mentality, does not lead me to be anything in PVP, I suck horribly at it because I am not built that way... I excel in PVE, however. They need to understand they have a game where a LOT of people love the world and lore, and just want to group with friends and go adventuring. So, split PVP and PVE, create an all PVE area for Cyrodiil and IC. By locking away some of the absolute best gear in the game behind PVP walls, they are ostracizing a lot of players.

    Hmm, Tel Var sets aren't that great, and neither is the Hakeijo rune. Of everything from Cyrodil and any PVP areas, I only am using one set from it, Vengeance Leech, and that's on a new guy I'm trying a new build on.

    The Powerfull Assault set which is currently very popular in vet trials tanking is found in IC.
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  • vamp_emily
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    If you are not a Mag NB in IC, I recommend buying a few of the portal stones just in case you get in a little trouble and need to get back to base. The portal stones can be found in chests but I've only found a few of them.

    I lived in IC for 3 consecutive months. In the beginning I died a lot, then I became familiar with it. Now I'm the Imperial City Queen and if you see me, you better run. :)





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  • Magdalina
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    Avalon wrote: »
    And this is why PVP ****es me off in ESO. I love when PVP players shrug my complaints off, or worse, they imply that PVP players have just as much a difficulty in getting gear etc as PVE players do. But, question, Where do I, as a PVE player, have access to the absolute best and most important runestone in the game, Hakeijo, without doing PVE? Oh yeah, only on the guild traders, and they are almost always not there, and when they are, the PVP players know they can gouge the hell out of PVE players for them. So, yeah, I'm extremely angry with the decision to force PVE players into PVP just to become competitive in PVE.
    Umm...so basically you have an issue with something in the game being locked behind a type of content you don't like doing? Even despite being provided a very easy work around - the items you want are BoE and buyable?
    What about, say, Perfect Roe for that tanky gold food if I wanted it - it's locked behind fishing too, and I hate fishing. And when it is on guild traders it costs 10k+.
    What about gold tempers? You don't get them from PvP nor PvE(unless you're really good and in the top of the leaderboards, but even then it's not like you get a lot) technically, just from farming for the most part. A lot of people really hate mindless farming, and gold mats are expensive.
    Heck what about potions? You have to learn achemy and farm mats to get them and some people really hate crafting, which means they're forced into buying them at what is it...10k a stack?

    Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it shouldn't exist or shouldn't be profitable/useful. Do something you enjoy, farm gold and be happy you can just buy it. PvPers need a way to earn gold too - which they are actually currently lacking, TV is more of a PvE thing tbh, just with added risk due to the location.

    On side note, you can get 14k tv per boss kill(if you're doing it solo when all the flags belong to you; 7k if split between 2, which is fairly easy and fast farming). So yes, Hakeijo is pretty cheap and easy to get actually.

    To OP, if you sneak you will become invisible to them, like everywhere in Cyrodiil. It won't always save you but it's possible to get away after being spotted, there're a lot of ways to go in all those half ruined buildings, even if it's not as easy as in open world. Don't run, sneak/pop invisible pot and try to hide.
  • bryanhaas
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    Avalon wrote: »
    And this is why PVP ****es me off in ESO. I love when PVP players shrug my complaints off, or worse, they imply that PVP players have just as much a difficulty in getting gear etc as PVE players do. But, question, Where do I, as a PVE player, have access to the absolute best and most important runestone in the game, Hakeijo, without doing PVE? Oh yeah, only on the guild traders, and they are almost always not there, and when they are, the PVP players know they can gouge the hell out of PVE players for them. So, yeah, I'm extremely angry with the decision to force PVE players into PVP just to become competitive in PVE.

    Sorry, I have never had the urge to play any RPG and kill other players, and my reflexes, tactics, etc, just my mentality, does not lead me to be anything in PVP, I suck horribly at it because I am not built that way... I excel in PVE, however. They need to understand they have a game where a LOT of people love the world and lore, and just want to group with friends and go adventuring. So, split PVP and PVE, create an all PVE area for Cyrodiil and IC. By locking away some of the absolute best gear in the game behind PVP walls, they are ostracizing a lot of players.

    I used to feel like you then got good. No trolling seriously, I improved for trials and then pvp wasn't so bad. Try joining a pvp guild or if intent on soloing play it smart watch the map in the city who has what zone watch for when a push comes and act accordingly or gank. The salty tears taste sweeter than the finest ambrosia.
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  • geonsocal
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    Avalon wrote: »
    And this is why PVP ****es me off in ESO. I love when PVP players shrug my complaints off, or worse, they imply that PVP players have just as much a difficulty in getting gear etc as PVE players do. But, question, Where do I, as a PVE player, have access to the absolute best and most important runestone in the game, Hakeijo, without doing PVE? Oh yeah, only on the guild traders, and they are almost always not there, and when they are, the PVP players know they can gouge the hell out of PVE players for them. So, yeah, I'm extremely angry with the decision to force PVE players into PVP just to become competitive in PVE.

    Sorry, I have never had the urge to play any RPG and kill other players, and my reflexes, tactics, etc, just my mentality, does not lead me to be anything in PVP, I suck horribly at it because I am not built that way... I excel in PVE, however. They need to understand they have a game where a LOT of people love the world and lore, and just want to group with friends and go adventuring. So, split PVP and PVE, create an all PVE area for Cyrodiil and IC. By locking away some of the absolute best gear in the game behind PVP walls, they are ostracizing a lot of players.

    trying healing and supporting allies - maybe not quite the visceral feel that pouring oil on folks has, but, being a good alliance ally in pvp can be a bunch of fun...

    hmmmm, yea, i can't wait to level my enchanter to 50 (currently like level 45 for the last 10 years it feels like) - so, i can take advantage of picking up and using the hakeijo rune on my gear...

    i use both black rose and phoenix (hands down my favorite set in the game :)) from IC...IC is actually a great pve zone - depending on the time of day and week, you can just go about your business pretty easily there...
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  • bryanhaas
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    Avalon wrote: »
    And this is why PVP ****es me off in ESO. I love when PVP players shrug my complaints off, or worse, they imply that PVP players have just as much a difficulty in getting gear etc as PVE players do. But, question, Where do I, as a PVE player, have access to the absolute best and most important runestone in the game, Hakeijo, without doing PVE? Oh yeah, only on the guild traders, and they are almost always not there, and when they are, the PVP players know they can gouge the hell out of PVE players for them. So, yeah, I'm extremely angry with the decision to force PVE players into PVP just to become competitive in PVE.

    Sorry, I have never had the urge to play any RPG and kill other players, and my reflexes, tactics, etc, just my mentality, does not lead me to be anything in PVP, I suck horribly at it because I am not built that way... I excel in PVE, however. They need to understand they have a game where a LOT of people love the world and lore, and just want to group with friends and go adventuring. So, split PVP and PVE, create an all PVE area for Cyrodiil and IC. By locking away some of the absolute best gear in the game behind PVP walls, they are ostracizing a lot of players.

    Hmm, Tel Var sets aren't that great, and neither is the Hakeijo rune. Of everything from Cyrodil and any PVP areas, I only am using one set from it, Vengeance Leech, and that's on a new guy I'm trying a new build on.

    Hakeijo is needed on tanks though, well maybe not needed but highly recommended.
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    If you are not a Mag NB in IC, I recommend buying a few of the portal stones just in case you get in a little trouble and need to get back to base. The portal stones can be found in chests but I've only found a few of them.

    I lived in IC for 3 consecutive months. In the beginning I died a lot, then I became familiar with it. Now I'm the Imperial City Queen and if you see me, you better run. :)

    c'mon now - if you're a mag nb - no one should even know you're there unless you want them to :)

    the tough one is trying to play a magplar there and gassing out of stamina a bunch trying to move in stealth (ugh, which reminds me a need to level my legerdemain for that sneak cost reduction passive)...
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  • Browiseth
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    bingo...one of the reasons IC is so thrilling...unlike most other spots in tamriel - dying actually has some consequences in IC...

    if you were able to hide or find a "safe" zone, you used to be able to travel to friends/guildmates...now, the only way out is to travel to another campaign...

    this is a very common justification for 30+ zergs in IC, i imagine
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    • EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
    • EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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  • jakeedmundson
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    bingo...one of the reasons IC is so thrilling...unlike most other spots in tamriel - dying actually has some consequences in IC...

    if you were able to hide or find a "safe" zone, you used to be able to travel to friends/guildmates...now, the only way out is to travel to another campaign...

    It's also why IC dlc is a dead zone...Probably one of the weakest DLCs simply because of the pve/pvp cross-over.

    PVE crowd generally hates it
    PVP crowd generally prefers cyrodiil

    Only thing IC is good for is ganking the occasional farmer (like the OP)
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    Browiseth wrote: »
    geonsocal wrote: »
    bingo...one of the reasons IC is so thrilling...unlike most other spots in tamriel - dying actually has some consequences in IC...

    if you were able to hide or find a "safe" zone, you used to be able to travel to friends/guildmates...now, the only way out is to travel to another campaign...

    this is a very common justification for 30+ zergs in IC, i imagine

    shoot, 8 plus is a zerg in IC...

    sort of like some folks where mentioning lowering the group limit in cyrodiil from 24 to 12...i wouldn't be sad to see group sizes capped at 4 or 6 in IC...
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  • Avalon
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    Browiseth wrote: »
    geonsocal wrote: »
    bingo...one of the reasons IC is so thrilling...unlike most other spots in tamriel - dying actually has some consequences in IC...

    if you were able to hide or find a "safe" zone, you used to be able to travel to friends/guildmates...now, the only way out is to travel to another campaign...

    this is a very common justification for 30+ zergs in IC, i imagine

    My feelings entirely, assuming that is sarcasm...

    I have tried IC several times, with large groups, small groups, by myself, etc. I just want to go in, farm, grind, do what I need to, then get back out. I don't have a problem with PVPers being allowed to enjoy themselves doing PVP, just leave me alone, I have no wish to PVP. While in IC, I have several times seen other players from other alliances running around alone, that never knew I was there. I could have easily ganked them, and not even broke a single drop of sweat... I just don't like PVPing, at all. I don't play games to ruin other peoples' enjoyment, I have no interest in doing so. So, I let them go on their way.

    I have always been that way... in DAoC, I spent a lot of time in the catacombs (just like IC almost exactly), and can remember running across enemy players all the time... I'd wave at them, they'd wave back, and we would circle each other, watching, then run off... there was always a suspicion for a few moments, but, then sometimes we would emote at each other, dance, etc... and that would be that. Go, have fun, I'm here to grind and farm, not mess with other players, even if I win the fight, I still enjoyed it less than if I was fighting a skeever!

    However, PVP attracts those that just love to grief other players, as long as they are ruining the fun of others, or are able to prove their epeen is bigger, they are enjoying themselves. They also tend to join into large groups (those 30+ zergs), run through destroying people just minding their own business, and get some sort of excitement out of doing so.
  • Browiseth
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    Avalon wrote: »
    Browiseth wrote: »
    geonsocal wrote: »
    bingo...one of the reasons IC is so thrilling...unlike most other spots in tamriel - dying actually has some consequences in IC...

    if you were able to hide or find a "safe" zone, you used to be able to travel to friends/guildmates...now, the only way out is to travel to another campaign...

    this is a very common justification for 30+ zergs in IC, i imagine

    However, PVP attracts those that just love to grief other players, as long as they are ruining the fun of others, or are able to prove their epeen is bigger, they are enjoying themselves. They also tend to join into large groups (those 30+ zergs), run through destroying people just minding their own business, and get some sort of excitement out of doing so.

    @Avalon being killed in pvp is "griefing" now

    okay.

    mate i dislike pvp as much as the next person but don't stand in the fire and complain that it's hot

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    • EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
    • EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
    • EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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  • Hoked_on_ponix
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    Avalon wrote: »
    And this is why PVP ****es me off in ESO. I love when PVP players shrug my complaints off, or worse, they imply that PVP players have just as much a difficulty in getting gear etc as PVE players do. But, question, Where do I, as a PVE player, have access to the absolute best and most important runestone in the game, Hakeijo, without doing PVE? Oh yeah, only on the guild traders, and they are almost always not there, and when they are, the PVP players know they can gouge the hell out of PVE players for them. So, yeah, I'm extremely angry with the decision to force PVE players into PVP just to become competitive in PVE.

    Sorry, I have never had the urge to play any RPG and kill other players, and my reflexes, tactics, etc, just my mentality, does not lead me to be anything in PVP, I suck horribly at it because I am not built that way... I excel in PVE, however. They need to understand they have a game where a LOT of people love the world and lore, and just want to group with friends and go adventuring. So, split PVP and PVE, create an all PVE area for Cyrodiil and IC. By locking away some of the absolute best gear in the game behind PVP walls, they are ostracizing a lot of players.

    How is the plight of not being able to get a runestone that is not BoP even comparable to having to farm dungeons for hours at a time in order to get BiS PVP gear? The only complaint I can see is the requirement to grind AVA skill line for things like vigor. Even then you can run around with a zerg and get vigor in an hour. On top of that the overwhelming majority of new content is directed towards PVE so really you should stop complaining about people who enjoy PVP.
  • WhitePawPrints
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    Avalon wrote: »
    Avalon wrote: »
    And this is why PVP ****es me off in ESO. I love when PVP players shrug my complaints off, or worse, they imply that PVP players have just as much a difficulty in getting gear etc as PVE players do. But, question, Where do I, as a PVE player, have access to the absolute best and most important runestone in the game, Hakeijo, without doing PVE? Oh yeah, only on the guild traders, and they are almost always not there, and when they are, the PVP players know they can gouge the hell out of PVE players for them. So, yeah, I'm extremely angry with the decision to force PVE players into PVP just to become competitive in PVE.

    Sorry, I have never had the urge to play any RPG and kill other players, and my reflexes, tactics, etc, just my mentality, does not lead me to be anything in PVP, I suck horribly at it because I am not built that way... I excel in PVE, however. They need to understand they have a game where a LOT of people love the world and lore, and just want to group with friends and go adventuring. So, split PVP and PVE, create an all PVE area for Cyrodiil and IC. By locking away some of the absolute best gear in the game behind PVP walls, they are ostracizing a lot of players.

    Hmm, Tel Var sets aren't that great, and neither is the Hakeijo rune. Of everything from Cyrodil and any PVP areas, I only am using one set from it, Vengeance Leech, and that's on a new guy I'm trying a new build on.

    First, I'm guessing you aren't playing a tank... they need health + another stat (stamina normally, but magicka in some cases), which makes infused on armor + prismatic defense glyphs the optimal setup.

    Second, the only way to do that, is to either farm TVS to buy the 5K (cheap!!) runestones, or to spend 10-15K per stone on trader (if you get off lucky, have seen them up to 20K, and then have to have a high enchanting, know someone, or etc), or, just buy the glyphs on trader when they can be found (which can range up to 30-40K per)... those prices don't seem all that bad, just farm the cash, right? Except, when ZOS keeps modifying things, over and over, that means new sets, new glyphs, etc etc. It becomes a MASSIVE cash sink. I am certain that some players have tons of cash, and that is awesome for them, they probably do PVP though, and that might explain why (they farm the TVS, and purchase the stones extremely cheap!)

    Whoa, don't care about the math. My tank does just fine in all Dungeon and Trial content with Dungeon and Trial sets.
  • timidobserver
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    bingo...one of the reasons IC is so thrilling...unlike most other spots in tamriel - dying actually has some consequences in IC...

    if you were able to hide or find a "safe" zone, you used to be able to travel to friends/guildmates...now, the only way out is to travel to another campaign...

    It's also why IC dlc is a dead zone...Probably one of the weakest DLCs simply because of the pve/pvp cross-over.

    PVE crowd generally hates it
    PVP crowd generally prefers cyrodiil

    Only thing IC is good for is ganking the occasional farmer (like the OP)

    Back when the rewards were fresh, IC was very active. IMO, it is dead due to the lack of long term rewards and goals. Other than farming, there is no reason to go there. If they had some super long term rewards, like legendary weapons in gw2, it wouldn't be dead.

    The entire game needs more long term rewards and goals.

    V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
    V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
    V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
    V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
    V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)

  • jakeedmundson
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    bingo...one of the reasons IC is so thrilling...unlike most other spots in tamriel - dying actually has some consequences in IC...

    if you were able to hide or find a "safe" zone, you used to be able to travel to friends/guildmates...now, the only way out is to travel to another campaign...

    It's also why IC dlc is a dead zone...Probably one of the weakest DLCs simply because of the pve/pvp cross-over.

    PVE crowd generally hates it
    PVP crowd generally prefers cyrodiil

    Only thing IC is good for is ganking the occasional farmer (like the OP)

    Back when the rewards were fresh, IC was very active. IMO, it is dead due to the lack of long term rewards and goals. Other than farming, there is no reason to go there. If they had some super long term rewards, like legendary weapons in gw2, it wouldn't be dead.

    The entire game needs more long term rewards and goals.

    That's true... the rewards didn't last.
    i did go there when it came out for 2 reasons...ps, i'm PVE mostly and hated going here :|

    1. You NEEDED telvar stones to buy v16 mats (rubedite and ancestor silk etc.)... the only other way was decon'ing trash drops at the time (pre wrothgar dlc)
    2. grind new character levels in the sewers.
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  • Gorthax
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    i have zero issues running and hiding from them. If you are near buildings use them to your advantage, dodge roll attacks, get a moment to breath so you can crouch. You have to break the group up by running. As much as I hate that part of IC, I also really enjoy the cat and mouse.
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