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2 Person VMA Option Would Benefit ESO

  • Hempyre
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    It is doable, I should know I spent a long time getting through it. I ended up using the basic sorc pet build, but it is doable.

    Keep plugging away you'll get there.

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  • PocketNova
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    I dunno about changing VMA to be duo, perhaps a new arena with a future dlc/chapter that is for duo's.

    If you're looking solely at VMA however I don't think changing it is the right way. Similar to how dungeons now work when you go to their door/use a shrine you get an option. Having an option to do the solo version (so it stays as is) or a duo version.

    Would keep both sides happy.
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  • sadownik
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    @Olupajmibanan have you been on PTS?
  • Banana
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    :D I can see it in chat now. People charging for vMA carries.
  • greylox
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    Still wouldn't bother.
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  • Magdalina
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    It's funny how there have been sooooooo many players asking for "solo endgame content" as they don't like grouping yet now that there is solo endgame content it's mostly trial/dungeon runners that can complete it.

    I'd say leave MA as it is but a 2 man arena would be nice. We have heaps of 4 man and a one man, why not 2 man? I don't like MA(I have completed it though and I don't think it needs a nerf), I find small group content to be a lot more fun, where you need to make up strategies together with your groupmates and figure out what works best together.
  • Sheva I 7 I
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    TheHsN wrote: »
    I think VMA should have some option that

    if u want u should be able to make SOLO

    if u want DUO

    If u WANT for people...


    when u want to go solo go solo..

    when u dont have enough people go 2 people

    when u have friend and try to have fun go 4 people...


    and the level of hardness and easiness should scale how many people u are going in...

    Thats called dragonstar arena you pug
  • souravami
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    lol
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  • VampiricByNature
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    A 2 person arena would be soooo fun! Why not use maelstrom? It would spark some life in the dead horse we have been beating!

    I would love to get to use my support character to help someone. [Or my dps to complete it even faster with someone to work with. I'm among the no sharpened fire staff crowd. ]

    I also have some friends who don't want to do a frustrating solo arena in the limited time they get to play. I would love to help them for a shot at getting them a weapon.
  • ObsidianMichi
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    I was just talking about how fun a two man vMA type trial would be today. I think they get underestimated, but a lot of people play MMOs with an SO or a friend and work their way through the game as a team of two instead of four. This game also has a lot of fun builds for damage tanks, or healer tanks, or off tanks with a dmg spec, which would potentially provide a fun intermediary step between solo endgame, endgame dungeons, and raid content. There are lots of duos out there, and it'd be pretty easy to put together (slightly more relaxed) teams.

    I'd run it!

    \o/
  • akl77
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    Shouldn't be group content, maelstrom is all about giving credit to your own build and playing skill, it's a test.
    However, I'm all for nerfing vet version down a bit, especially round 9 last boss, it's crazy hard mode for first attempt.
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  • Starless06
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    Idk about VMA, but a new duo arena would be great.
  • DjMuscleboy02
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    This would be super cool honestly. I don't see it ever happening but I like it. I absolutely can't stand solo content and forcing me to grind over 400 weapons without the weapon I need really makes me not enjoy the time I've spent playing. Having a buddy to do it with would make is immensely more bearable.
    Edited by DjMuscleboy02 on May 9, 2017 2:04PM
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  • idk
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    vMA was designed for single player. To make a 2 man instance would require adjustments and regardless of how much it was amped up few would do the single player anymore so doubt it happens.

    Maybe they will create a 2 man arena that is designed as a 2 man arena.
  • DocFrost72
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    Horowonnoe wrote: »
    Dude its really not that hard. I did it today on my sorc while cramping on my period. Just get it done. :3

    1...ew.

    2- I support the idea having completed in stamplar and stamblade. It ain't about "being hard".

    3- I'd love to run with my buddies in an MMO.

    I say we either hAve a seperate leaderboard for pairs or just don't score it, otherwise everything's the same.
  • Brrrofski
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    I don't get this tank and healer thing.

    You know a gear and skill swap can turn you into a dps right?
    Edited by Brrrofski on May 9, 2017 2:40PM
  • GrumpyDuckling
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    A 2 person arena would be soooo fun! Why not use maelstrom? It would spark some life in the dead horse we have been beating!

    I would love to get to use my support character to help someone. [Or my dps to complete it even faster with someone to work with. I'm among the no sharpened fire staff crowd. ]

    I also have some friends who don't want to do a frustrating solo arena in the limited time they get to play. I would love to help them for a shot at getting them a weapon.

    Well said. I feel the same way. I remember when one of my friends first starting playing ESO, and some of the most fun I've had in the game was when running quests with him and healing him while he was learning the game. In similar fashion, it would be a lot of fun to support someone who is learning VMA.
  • Waseem
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    no, dont make vMA 2 person based, INSTEAD-- make a new 2 players based trial.
  • Resipsa131
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    I've ran vMa on my healer without changing CP from blessed and only changing out SPC for TBS and Bogden's for Narneiths and more DOT skills. I plan on running it on my tank but I'll need some specific set pieces that I'm slowly acquiring.

    On point if you want to run it as a team, fine but you shouldn't qualify for vMA weapons. Its doable by all classes.
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    This would be interesting, but only if you would not be able to get maelstorm weapons. Some other reward would be nice, but nothing OP. I think duo MA would be fun, especially when leveling alts.

    ^Exactly this.^

    I agree a 2-person vMA would be cool.

    Maelstrom weapons should still only be a reward for solo clears. Maybe offer CP150 Maelstrom weapons for a 2-man clear.

    Edited by Taleof2Cities on May 9, 2017 3:20PM
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Horowonnoe wrote: »
    Dude its really not that hard. I did it today on my sorc while cramping on my period. Just get it done. :3

    Gentleman ... The bar has been raised .

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  • Moloch1514
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    Maybe not duo VMA, but we definitely need a duo Arena next!
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  • LadyLavina
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    Horowonnoe wrote: »
    Dude its really not that hard. I did it today on my sorc while cramping on my period. Just get it done. :3

    It is for some, not for others :p . I'd imagine it's particularly difficult for those that don't have hours and hours to run through it countless times/spend a lot of time theory crafting with guildies
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  • GrumpyDuckling
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Horowonnoe wrote: »
    Dude its really not that hard. I did it today on my sorc while cramping on my period. Just get it done. :3

    1...ew.

    2- I support the idea having completed in stamplar and stamblade. It ain't about "being hard".

    3- I'd love to run with my buddies in an MMO.

    I say we either hAve a seperate leaderboard for pairs or just don't score it, otherwise everything's the same.

    I like your idea about not scoring it. No chance at leaderboards because then leaderboards would only be 2 person teams.
  • BigBadVolk
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    I think the next arena should be this which you explained OP. Other then that with some classes its kinda easier (mean Sorc and NB)
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  • Soleya
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    The argument that BIS weapons should be hard work is kinda lame.

    In reality beating vMA the first time is really hard work, after that it's just tedious.

    So based on the argument BIS weapons should be hard work, your first clear of vMA should give you a every single vMA sharpened weapon and after that you should only get charged and powered 1H sword and shields.

    I've completed vMA on multiple characters, and I really wish the arena was 2 players. The main reason to play ESO is to play with friends. And personally I don't care if other players get great gear doing something that was easier. Doesn't affect me at all.
  • sekou_trayvond
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    I don't think a two-person option in VMA is necessary, per se, rather the creation of a separate two-person arena could be interesting and lend some freshness to the arena experience.

    Fully respect solo VMA. Currently stuck on Stage 9, atm, personally. That should remain in place as kind of the game's gold standard for solo/arena content.

    That being said, an MMO, to me anyway, should be looking for ways to foster more and varied group play content and a two-person arena would achieve that in some respects.
  • Skinzz
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    Lol people finding excuses for not being able to best vma solo..
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • GrumpyDuckling
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    I don't think a two-person option in VMA is necessary, per se, rather the creation of a separate two-person arena could be interesting and lend some freshness to the arena experience.

    Fully respect solo VMA. Currently stuck on Stage 9, atm, personally. That should remain in place as kind of the game's gold standard for solo/arena content.

    That being said, an MMO, to me anyway, should be looking for ways to foster more and varied group play content and a two-person arena would achieve that in some respects.

    A different two-person arena would be fine. The reason that I suggest Maelstrom, though is that it is already in the game and would require more of a tweak rather than building a completely new experience - something I doubt ZOS wants to do unless it's in their future plans.
  • Fvh09NL
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    Leave vma as it is, it's not that hard if you just keep on trying. A new arena for two would be great though :)
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