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vMSA Voryak Solkyn Enrage?

raasdal
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Not done vMSA very many times. On final stage, the boss will do some kind of enrage, saying "enough! take this!" or something, and start a channel that seems impossible to defenf against. It happens after crystals and always when he gets low health.

On all videos i see of this fight, this part does not happen. Am i missing a mechanic here?
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  • raasdal
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    Fyi, it is not the usual channel that can be interrupted, and not the skull.
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  • playsforfun
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    if 3 golden ghosts get to him it empowers him
    Edited by playsforfun on May 6, 2017 10:00AM
  • Feanor
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    Yes. If he gets 3 golden ghosts there is nothing you can do anymore. Hence the following priorities: 1. Golden ghosts, 2. Flame Colossus summoner, 3. Crematorial Guards. Getting all ghosts all the time usually takes care of all 3.
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  • souravami
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    After destroying crystals you have to collect golden ghosts as well as dpsing the boss. If he gets 3 ghosts it's game over, he'll just one shot you.
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  • Tryxus
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    Don't let him get 3 ghosts...

    When you destroyed the crystals, you need to try and get in control of the final part:

    - Grab the Defense and/or Attack sigils
    - Go for the Golden Ghosts, collect them before the boss
    - Kill the Summoners to prevent the Flame Collossus from spawning
    - Destroy Crematorial Guards

    And when you get the 3 ghosts, press X and finish the boss.
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  • Dragonnord
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    Why everyone repeates the same thing if it was already answered? Isn't one response enough?

    OK. Here it goes again: don't let the boss grab the 3 golden ghosts.
  • Buffler
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    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.
  • Robisok74
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    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    Please elaborate. Am i missing something?
  • Dragonnord
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    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?
  • Robisok74
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    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Didn't realise this? So when you drop from glyphs, you simply grab the defense sigil(shield). I guess block and he kills himself? No interuppt or anything else?
    Maybe I've been over complicating things the last however many times i have done it.. Will try this when I get home from work today..
  • raasdal
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    Ah, thanks alot for the answers! Will make it alot easier. Never bothered with the ghost at any point.
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  • Dragonnord
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    Robisok74 wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Didn't realise this? So when you drop from glyphs, you simply grab the defense sigil(shield). I guess block and he kills himself? No interuppt or anything else?
    Maybe I've been over complicating things the last however many times i have done it.. Will try this when I get home from work today..

    I use the shield and he doesn't kill himself at all, never. And I do Maelstrom Arena every week. The sigil just shields you from his attacks, but doesn't kill him back.
     
    Edited by Dragonnord on May 6, 2017 11:56AM
  • laksikus
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    CarbonX wrote: »
    Robisok74 wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Didn't realise this? So when you drop from glyphs, you simply grab the defense sigil(shield). I guess block and he kills himself? No interuppt or anything else?
    Maybe I've been over complicating things the last however many times i have done it.. Will try this when I get home from work today..

    I use the shield and he doesn't kill himself at all, never. And I do Maelstrom Arena every week. The sigil just shields you from his attacks, but doesn't kill him back.
     

    The shield Sigel reflects his Channel, so he damages himself
    Edited by laksikus on May 6, 2017 12:24PM
  • Buffler
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    laksikus wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Robisok74 wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Didn't realise this? So when you drop from glyphs, you simply grab the defense sigil(shield). I guess block and he kills himself? No interuppt or anything else?
    Maybe I've been over complicating things the last however many times i have done it.. Will try this when I get home from work today..

    I use the shield and he doesn't kill himself at all, never. And I do Maelstrom Arena every week. The sigil just shields you from his attacks, but doesn't kill him back.
     

    The shield Sigel reflects his Channel, so he damages himself

    Thankyou sir :)
  • LuminaLilly
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    3 ghosts =curtains for you.

    My favorite strategy for that is just hang close to him and steal his ghosts.
  • Buffler
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    CarbonX wrote: »
    Robisok74 wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Didn't realise this? So when you drop from glyphs, you simply grab the defense sigil(shield). I guess block and he kills himself? No interuppt or anything else?
    Maybe I've been over complicating things the last however many times i have done it.. Will try this when I get home from work today..

    I use the shield and he doesn't kill himself at all, never. And I do Maelstrom Arena every week. The sigil just shields you from his attacks, but doesn't kill him back.
     

    You're probably so used to interuppting his channel before the crystal phase its second nature to do it when you drop back down. I can assure you if you grab the def sigil and DO NOT interuppt him, his channel reflects back and does a lot of damage to him.
  • Ep1kMalware
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    raasdal wrote: »
    Not done vMSA very many times. On final stage, the boss will do some kind of enrage, saying "enough! take this!" or something, and start a channel that seems impossible to defenf against. It happens after crystals and always when he gets low health.

    On all videos i see of this fight, this part does not happen. Am i missing a mechanic here?

    Does he float up in the air and 1 shot you? That happens when you let him get 3 ghosts. Other than that the mechanics play on in a loop that can go on infinitely if you want.
  • jakeedmundson
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    Buffler wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Robisok74 wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Didn't realise this? So when you drop from glyphs, you simply grab the defense sigil(shield). I guess block and he kills himself? No interuppt or anything else?
    Maybe I've been over complicating things the last however many times i have done it.. Will try this when I get home from work today..

    I use the shield and he doesn't kill himself at all, never. And I do Maelstrom Arena every week. The sigil just shields you from his attacks, but doesn't kill him back.
     

    You're probably so used to interuppting his channel before the crystal phase its second nature to do it when you drop back down. I can assure you if you grab the def sigil and DO NOT interuppt him, his channel reflects back and does a lot of damage to him.

    Thats good to know... i just assumed the shield sigil wouldn't actually damage him because its the boss. I never usually even take that thing anymore... but i'll give it a shot if it'll make that 3rd part go quicker.
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  • Dragonnord
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    laksikus wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Robisok74 wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Didn't realise this? So when you drop from glyphs, you simply grab the defense sigil(shield). I guess block and he kills himself? No interuppt or anything else?
    Maybe I've been over complicating things the last however many times i have done it.. Will try this when I get home from work today..

    I use the shield and he doesn't kill himself at all, never. And I do Maelstrom Arena every week. The sigil just shields you from his attacks, but doesn't kill him back.
     

    The shield Sigel reflects his Channel, so he damages himself

    I didn't say it doesn't reflect the damage, I said it doesn't kill himself as it was mentioned above: "He kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns". I use the shield and it doesn't return enough damage as to kill the boss by only using the sigil and nothing else as stated above.
     
    Edited by Dragonnord on May 6, 2017 1:43PM
  • Buffler
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    CarbonX wrote: »
    laksikus wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Robisok74 wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Didn't realise this? So when you drop from glyphs, you simply grab the defense sigil(shield). I guess block and he kills himself? No interuppt or anything else?
    Maybe I've been over complicating things the last however many times i have done it.. Will try this when I get home from work today..

    I use the shield and he doesn't kill himself at all, never. And I do Maelstrom Arena every week. The sigil just shields you from his attacks, but doesn't kill him back.
     

    The shield Sigel reflects his Channel, so he damages himself

    I didn't say it doesn't reflect the damage, I said it doesn't kill himself as it was mentioned above: "He kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns". I use the shield and it doesn't return enough damage as to kill the boss by only using the sigil and nothing else as stated above.
     

    You took it far too literal
  • Dragonnord
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    Buffler wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Robisok74 wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Didn't realise this? So when you drop from glyphs, you simply grab the defense sigil(shield). I guess block and he kills himself? No interuppt or anything else?
    Maybe I've been over complicating things the last however many times i have done it.. Will try this when I get home from work today..

    I use the shield and he doesn't kill himself at all, never. And I do Maelstrom Arena every week. The sigil just shields you from his attacks, but doesn't kill him back.
     

    You're probably so used to interuppting his channel before the crystal phase its second nature to do it when you drop back down. I can assure you if you grab the def sigil and DO NOT interuppt him, his channel reflects back and does a lot of damage to him.

    You're wrong since I'm not so used to anything. I'm a DK and use Corrosive Armor, so no need to interrupt anything. And wrong again, since "a lot of damage" as you say is still NOT ENOUGH damage as to kill the boss before the first gold ghost appears as it was mentioned above.
  • Dragonnord
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    Buffler wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    laksikus wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Robisok74 wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Didn't realise this? So when you drop from glyphs, you simply grab the defense sigil(shield). I guess block and he kills himself? No interuppt or anything else?
    Maybe I've been over complicating things the last however many times i have done it.. Will try this when I get home from work today..

    I use the shield and he doesn't kill himself at all, never. And I do Maelstrom Arena every week. The sigil just shields you from his attacks, but doesn't kill him back.
     

    The shield Sigel reflects his Channel, so he damages himself

    I didn't say it doesn't reflect the damage, I said it doesn't kill himself as it was mentioned above: "He kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns". I use the shield and it doesn't return enough damage as to kill the boss by only using the sigil and nothing else as stated above.
     

    You took it far too literal

    Is there a non-literal part in "He kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns"? If he added the ghost part then he meant that, otherwise he would have only said that the shield reflects a lot of damage back. ;)
  • Buffler
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    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Robisok74 wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Didn't realise this? So when you drop from glyphs, you simply grab the defense sigil(shield). I guess block and he kills himself? No interuppt or anything else?
    Maybe I've been over complicating things the last however many times i have done it.. Will try this when I get home from work today..

    I use the shield and he doesn't kill himself at all, never. And I do Maelstrom Arena every week. The sigil just shields you from his attacks, but doesn't kill him back.
     

    You're probably so used to interuppting his channel before the crystal phase its second nature to do it when you drop back down. I can assure you if you grab the def sigil and DO NOT interuppt him, his channel reflects back and does a lot of damage to him.

    You're wrong since I'm not so used to anything. I'm a DK and use Corrosive Armor, so no need to interrupt anything. And wrong again, since "a lot of damage" as you say is still NOT ENOUGH damage as to kill the boss before the first gold ghost appears as it was mentioned above.

    You still have to do your own attacks. I didnt literally mean you stand there doing nothing and he dies lol
  • Robisok74
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    Buffler wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Robisok74 wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Didn't realise this? So when you drop from glyphs, you simply grab the defense sigil(shield). I guess block and he kills himself? No interuppt or anything else?
    Maybe I've been over complicating things the last however many times i have done it.. Will try this when I get home from work today..

    I use the shield and he doesn't kill himself at all, never. And I do Maelstrom Arena every week. The sigil just shields you from his attacks, but doesn't kill him back.
     

    You're probably so used to interuppting his channel before the crystal phase its second nature to do it when you drop back down. I can assure you if you grab the def sigil and DO NOT interuppt him, his channel reflects back and does a lot of damage to him.

    You're wrong since I'm not so used to anything. I'm a DK and use Corrosive Armor, so no need to interrupt anything. And wrong again, since "a lot of damage" as you say is still NOT ENOUGH damage as to kill the boss before the first gold ghost appears as it was mentioned above.

    You still have to do your own attacks. I didnt literally mean you stand there doing nothing and he dies lol

    I'm glad that's all been cleared up, so I won't be standing there waiting for him to die, and collecting ghosts, but it's very handy to know and certainly answers a few questions. Thanks guys :)
  • Dragonnord
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    Buffler wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Robisok74 wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Didn't realise this? So when you drop from glyphs, you simply grab the defense sigil(shield). I guess block and he kills himself? No interuppt or anything else?
    Maybe I've been over complicating things the last however many times i have done it.. Will try this when I get home from work today..

    I use the shield and he doesn't kill himself at all, never. And I do Maelstrom Arena every week. The sigil just shields you from his attacks, but doesn't kill him back.
     

    You're probably so used to interuppting his channel before the crystal phase its second nature to do it when you drop back down. I can assure you if you grab the def sigil and DO NOT interuppt him, his channel reflects back and does a lot of damage to him.

    You're wrong since I'm not so used to anything. I'm a DK and use Corrosive Armor, so no need to interrupt anything. And wrong again, since "a lot of damage" as you say is still NOT ENOUGH damage as to kill the boss before the first gold ghost appears as it was mentioned above.

    You still have to do your own attacks. I didnt literally mean you stand there doing nothing and he dies lol

    Well, clarified now, because it sounded like you just needed to grab the shield and wait until the boss die (read post #25).
  • Wrekkedd
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    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Suicide
  • Wrekkedd
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    Also, since it hasn't been answered yet, don't let the boss get three golden ghosts or he will enrage.
  • alexkdd99
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    Buffler wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Robisok74 wrote: »
    CarbonX wrote: »
    Buffler wrote: »
    It should never get that far. Just grab the defense sigil, DO NOT interuppt the boss and he kills himself before one gold ghost even spawns.

    He kills himself? What do you mean?

    Didn't realise this? So when you drop from glyphs, you simply grab the defense sigil(shield). I guess block and he kills himself? No interuppt or anything else?
    Maybe I've been over complicating things the last however many times i have done it.. Will try this when I get home from work today..

    I use the shield and he doesn't kill himself at all, never. And I do Maelstrom Arena every week. The sigil just shields you from his attacks, but doesn't kill him back.
     

    You're probably so used to interuppting his channel before the crystal phase its second nature to do it when you drop back down. I can assure you if you grab the def sigil and DO NOT interuppt him, his channel reflects back and does a lot of damage to him.

    You're wrong since I'm not so used to anything. I'm a DK and use Corrosive Armor, so no need to interrupt anything. And wrong again, since "a lot of damage" as you say is still NOT ENOUGH damage as to kill the boss before the first gold ghost appears as it was mentioned above.

    You still have to do your own attacks. I didnt literally mean you stand there doing nothing and he dies lol

    Well your post definitely read that way as evidenced by everyone asking that.

    Op, I would just stick with getting 3 gold ghost and ignore the sigil. If you are that far then you might as well be getting use to using no sigils as to get better scores. Just make sure he gets no ghost and use the stun from the ghost when he is spawning the crem guard.

    As was mentioned earlier you must prioritize the fight. 1. Gold ghost, 2. Summoners, 3. Crem guards, 4. Dps boss. If you let the summoners live and they summon the colossus, or if you let the boss get 3 gold ghost you will die.
  • Artemiisia
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    after reading this thread about the Defense Sigel, I went and tested it for the fun of it, that and combining with my meteor and skills I didnt really have to think of the adds, it just died so fast :D
  • Buffler
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    Artemiisia wrote: »
    after reading this thread about the Defense Sigel, I went and tested it for the fun of it, that and combining with my meteor and skills I didnt really have to think of the adds, it just died so fast :D

    He just melts so fast, i never even see gold ghosts if you use the sigil. If im going for a score i dont bother using it though
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