Lexxypwns wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

YO

LOL

When you're the "king of sorcs" and complain about sustaining WITH lich...
@Micah_Bayer we've got an L in here for you

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

YO

LOL

When you're the "king of sorcs" and complain about sustaining WITH lich...
@Micah_Bayer we've got an L in here for you

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

I exclusively solo or duo kid. And I don't use lich. And I have no sustain issue.

idc how long you've played sorc, you're here admitting you're terrible at it while claiming to be "lord" at the same time.

I am a lord of Sorcs among many strong other sorcs, but why would you flock to Qa's side over mine, I mean I personally have no beef with him though we've never liked me ever,1.6 I was a khajiit mag sorc and I first met him? He destroyed me multiple times, but since this patch I have a high elf and I am doing very very well, I have killed him with his new build 3 to 4 times while he has also killed me, actually shocked he doesn't tell the truth on that matter, he's never liked me and since 1.6 he's had me on ignore but this patch, I fought him and I killed him, he came back and killed me with a DB combo and after he tbagged me and whispered me, worst sorc NA, trash and garbage ever since then I have lost all respect and would like to expose him for what he really is, pure trash that places himself above others and if you've dueled me in storm haven I never bring people down and I never put myself above people I always say, hey there are no levels I am not on a level because I win 90% of the time and people praise me for something but I believe anyone can get good. I am not a bad guy here but Qa plays me out to be some *** which I will never understand

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

I exclusively solo or duo kid. And I don't use lich. And I have no sustain issue.

idc how long you've played sorc, you're here admitting you're terrible at it while claiming to be "lord" at the same time.

I am a lord of Sorcs among many strong other sorcs, but why would you flock to Qa's side over mine, I mean I personally have no beef with him though we've never liked me ever,1.6 I was a khajiit mag sorc and I first met him? He destroyed me multiple times, but since this patch I have a high elf and I am doing very very well, I have killed him with his new build 3 to 4 times while he has also killed me, actually shocked he doesn't tell the truth on that matter, he's never liked me and since 1.6 he's had me on ignore but this patch, I fought him and I killed him, he came back and killed me with a DB combo and after he tbagged me and whispered me, worst sorc NA, trash and garbage ever since then I have lost all respect and would like to expose him for what he really is, pure trash that places himself above others and if you've dueled me in storm haven I never bring people down and I never put myself above people I always say, hey there are no levels I am not on a level because I win 90% of the time and people praise me for something but I believe anyone can get good. I am not a bad guy here but Qa plays me out to be some *** which I will never understand

Khajit sorc lol. You are trying to play underdog skill or some fallacy of the sort. You realize I was a Wood Elf sorc for the longest time? Boo hoo with your khajiit sorc. Boooo hooooo.


I can't help but laugh at your sustain issues with a lich set up.... I seriously can't. I can sustain with 800 magic regen, and here you are complaining about sustain with an easy destro/resto build.... I.... just lol....

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

@Valera Progib Problem with that is dmg. Against medium and light armour our targets fine but when heavy all impen dk's or stamplars are on you, you cannot burst then no sustain since our shields are not hots. And shields cost a lot harness 3-4k 3k for hardened that is nearly is 25% and more of average player's Magicka pool. And since I don't have reduction or recovery glyphs my lich goes to 2800

Derra wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

I exclusively solo or duo kid. And I don't use lich. And I have no sustain issue.

idc how long you've played sorc, you're here admitting you're terrible at it while claiming to be "lord" at the same time.

I am a lord of Sorcs among many strong other sorcs, but why would you flock to Qa's side over mine, I mean I personally have no beef with him though we've never liked me ever,1.6 I was a khajiit mag sorc and I first met him? He destroyed me multiple times, but since this patch I have a high elf and I am doing very very well, I have killed him with his new build 3 to 4 times while he has also killed me, actually shocked he doesn't tell the truth on that matter, he's never liked me and since 1.6 he's had me on ignore but this patch, I fought him and I killed him, he came back and killed me with a DB combo and after he tbagged me and whispered me, worst sorc NA, trash and garbage ever since then I have lost all respect and would like to expose him for what he really is, pure trash that places himself above others and if you've dueled me in storm haven I never bring people down and I never put myself above people I always say, hey there are no levels I am not on a level because I win 90% of the time and people praise me for something but I believe anyone can get good. I am not a bad guy here but Qa plays me out to be some *** which I will never understand

Khajit sorc lol. You are trying to play underdog skill or some fallacy of the sort. You realize I was a Wood Elf sorc for the longest time? Boo hoo with your khajiit sorc. Boooo hooooo.


I can't help but laugh at your sustain issues with a lich set up.... I seriously can't. I can sustain with 800 magic regen, and here you are complaining about sustain with an easy destro/resto build.... I.... just lol....

Well to be perfectly fair: How much does your harness restore you in your builds? 2000+ magica x 3?

Derra wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

I exclusively solo or duo kid. And I don't use lich. And I have no sustain issue.

idc how long you've played sorc, you're here admitting you're terrible at it while claiming to be "lord" at the same time.

I am a lord of Sorcs among many strong other sorcs, but why would you flock to Qa's side over mine, I mean I personally have no beef with him though we've never liked me ever,1.6 I was a khajiit mag sorc and I first met him? He destroyed me multiple times, but since this patch I have a high elf and I am doing very very well, I have killed him with his new build 3 to 4 times while he has also killed me, actually shocked he doesn't tell the truth on that matter, he's never liked me and since 1.6 he's had me on ignore but this patch, I fought him and I killed him, he came back and killed me with a DB combo and after he tbagged me and whispered me, worst sorc NA, trash and garbage ever since then I have lost all respect and would like to expose him for what he really is, pure trash that places himself above others and if you've dueled me in storm haven I never bring people down and I never put myself above people I always say, hey there are no levels I am not on a level because I win 90% of the time and people praise me for something but I believe anyone can get good. I am not a bad guy here but Qa plays me out to be some *** which I will never understand

Khajit sorc lol. You are trying to play underdog skill or some fallacy of the sort. You realize I was a Wood Elf sorc for the longest time? Boo hoo with your khajiit sorc. Boooo hooooo.


I can't help but laugh at your sustain issues with a lich set up.... I seriously can't. I can sustain with 800 magic regen, and here you are complaining about sustain with an easy destro/resto build.... I.... just lol....

Well to be perfectly fair: How much does your harness restore you in your builds? 2000+ magica x 3?

6k magika, basically the stack is free. With lich you've ~500 more recovery, meaning if you're refreshing your stack every six seconds and get 4500 back from harness then about the same sustain. That's without lich proc too.

Stack + ~1000 magica get returned yeah.

With lich you have about ~ 1100 to 1200 rec depending on CP + the procc. So a rec advantage of about ~400 but are lacking shieldsize (meaning more casts) is about 35% less. Also your spammed attacks are roughly 40% more expensive.

Having played both i personally find dw high magica to be easier to sustain than lich + x on destru staff - mainly because the high magica pool to begin with leaves more freedom as DW.

I hold my fingers crossed harness gets toasted aswell in the next patch tough :P

Lord_Hev wrote: »

1.) This max magic yolo build will not be sustainable next patch. It was never sustainable in no CP(even with witchmothers) and relies on 16% cost reduction from magician to manage my magic pool.

2.) My build only indefinitely sustains against magic builds. That said, I can still sustain against Stam builds for prolonged fights(even with them using poisons but are not competent duelers themselves) with only 800 regen.... The "lord of sorcs" seems to have issues sustaining with lich.... lol


@Derra Just trying to be clear. You aren't arguing that my build is easy to sustain with are you? I'm sorry if I misinterpreted but i'm getting the impression that because of harness, I can sustain better then a lich build. That is faaaaar from true.

I have no sustain with this. It is not a meta build. It is not user friendly.

5pc Lich, is a user friendly set piece.

Magıc wrote: »

Hope you're all ready for numerous sorc nerfs inc

Magıc wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Magıc wrote: »

Hope you're all ready for numerous sorc nerfs inc

The problem when looking at the sorc class is: What is (objectively speaking) really overperforming.

Name only sorc skills.

Exactly, but pugs seem to think Sorc skills theselves are the problem. Only dark deal/conv and encase are over performing imo (encase is situational though), but they plan to hit shields instead cause of people crying cause they don't know how to fight Sorcs.