MidknightWolf wrote: »

Ethics have nothing to do with facts, truths, or lies. Its about one's moral compass. Another way to ask if something is ethical is to ask if it is morally right. You dont have to lie or deceit to be unethical.

Ethics and morality do not always walk hand in hand, I'm afraid.

So you're basically asking if it's immoral? If it somehow has some dire negative effect on mankind?

(& you forgot the fourth polling option, btw.)

ScytheNL wrote: »

Well.. The Crown system IS intentionally deceiptful, just like how casino's work with chips:

"Hey, this island for only 15.000 imaginary in game crowns!"

vs

"DAMN, they're charging € 120,00 REAL MONEY for an imaginary place to live for my imaginary heroes?"

If the Crown store was in actual money prices they wouldn't sell half as much.

You might be surprised:
meet-the-man-who-just-made-a-cool-half-million-from-the-sale-of-virtual-property

real-sale-virtual-property-nets-half-million-dollars

second-life-realtor-makes-1-million

entropia-universe-player-spends-USD2-5-million-on-virtual-real-estate

Suddenly € 120,00 doesn't look so bad, does it?

Ethics in internet? Sure...

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

You might be surprised:
meet-the-man-who-just-made-a-cool-half-million-from-the-sale-of-virtual-property

real-sale-virtual-property-nets-half-million-dollars

second-life-realtor-makes-1-million

entropia-universe-player-spends-USD2-5-million-on-virtual-real-estate

Suddenly € 120,00 doesn't look so bad, does it?

There will always be idiots, but those aren't the majority.

max_only wrote: »

Thannazzar wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

What? Capitalism leads to inequality? Since when! Next you're going to tell me people eat thousand dollar desserts while people starve to death. The more you have the less it's worth and the more likely you are to waste.

Blimey, hadn't realised that ESO had a Social Justice Warrior Class.

A socialist and a social justice warrior are two different things.

Also, being a warrior for justice (Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, Captain America) doesn't sound like a pejorative but that may be a generational thing......

It is pejorative because social justice is highly subjective and almost intangible

Define your idea of unethical.

The price listed in the crown store is just there. If the person buys the item it's on them. No one forced them to buy it.
Limited Time doesn't mean you have to buy it. You buy something only if you really love it; unless you're rich, just buy everything lol.

Manage personal preferences wisely when spending cash kids!

Flaminir wrote: »

Limited time offers are a marketing technique used by companies all over the capitalist world...

Unless you are going to fundamentally alter the capitalist nature of the entirety of western civilisation then suggesting banning one of the most common marketing techniques contained within that paradigm is pretty non-sensical.

So because it's a marketing technique then it's allright. Sounds like you accept everything because it's meant to be and therefore you have no real opinion. If everyone follows that of you, then things will never change no. Then we still lived in kingdoms where the king has the absolute power and the people have no influence. The French revolution would never have happened then. And the USA would never exist. Think about the things around you and how they have come that way.

candesco wrote: »

Flaminir wrote: »

Limited time offers are a marketing technique used by companies all over the capitalist world...

Unless you are going to fundamentally alter the capitalist nature of the entirety of western civilisation then suggesting banning one of the most common marketing techniques contained within that paradigm is pretty non-sensical.

So because it's a marketing technique then it's allright. Sounds like you accept everything because it's meant to be and therefore you have no real opinion. If everyone follows that of you, then things will never change no. Then we still lived in kingdoms where the king has the absolute power and the people have no influence. The French revolution would never have happened then. And the USA would never exist. Think about the things around you and how they have come that way.

Quite a stretch to compare a common marketing practice to the French Revolution.

But if the practice you bothers you that much, speak with your wallet and stop supporting the game. If enough agree with you change might happen.

candesco wrote: »

Flaminir wrote: »

Limited time offers are a marketing technique used by companies all over the capitalist world...

Unless you are going to fundamentally alter the capitalist nature of the entirety of western civilisation then suggesting banning one of the most common marketing techniques contained within that paradigm is pretty non-sensical.

So because it's a marketing technique then it's allright. Sounds like you accept everything because it's meant to be and therefore you have no real opinion. If everyone follows that of you, then things will never change no. Then we still lived in kingdoms where the king has the absolute power and the people have no influence. The French revolution would never have happened then. And the USA would never exist. Think about the things around you and how they have come that way.

The OP was talking about a specific common practice within a single video game and should it be allowed...

My answer to that specific question is that within the context of western capitalist society then of course it should be allowed.

If you are then extending this to saying that "We should change the fundamental underpinnings of modern capitalism just so that they don't have limited time offers in the ESO crown store"... well...

....all the best with that one!

Oh... and pretty sure that national revolutions were based on a few factors slightly more important than how long you can buy a make believe costume in a video game cash shop!

ScytheNL wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

That may be the case, but chips (not Crowns) also make money easier to handle and manage, reduces the amount of actual cash that is on the tables, reducing the risk of theft and stealing, and allows the casino to concentrate on-site cash in one location. Just for some perspective.

Except all of these points aren't actually points at all when it's a digital marketplace. Yes, casino's also use them for those reasons, but them main reason is psychology. And the other reasons don't apply in ESO.

This is why I put in a Crown specific paragraph that you did not quote. Right?

"Crowns exist because using actual cash in-game apparently causes issues with governments, they remove the need to consider global currencies in pricing, and reduce complexity in the transaction, in addition to the psychological reasons listed above. Also for some perspective. "

Just no limited-time houses. That's just expensive and dumb.

not because it's unethical. because it's damn well insulting for players charging so much for a reskin JUST because of it being "Limited" (fun fact: digital content doesn't have a total stock, you can create more effortlessly) just to form some sort of "urgancy" to buy it before its "gone"