Necropotence farming, and suggestions.

Feanor · May 2017

This weekend? Is it double Necro event on Rivenspire or what?

bennysbeastb16_ESO2 · May 2017

Flaminir wrote: »

bennysbeastb16_ESO2 wrote: »

supaskrub wrote: »

bennysbeastb16_ESO2 wrote: »

aLi3nZ wrote: »

I can farm like 3 million gold in 2 weeks. Why would you bother with this and not just use gold to buy? I already bought every necropotence peice including gold jelewery and 2 inferno staves

ok so what are u farming to make 3mil in two week, caus i call BS..
only way ur making that amount is by farming world bosses and getting lucky with RNG, their isnt anything else that can make you that amount of gold

Call BS all you like, this topic caught my interest as for the last four days I also am farming for Necro bits and bobs, I have everything except a sharp inferno staff. My farming spot is Obsidian Scar (OS) public dungeon. On Monday just passed i had less than 200k gold in the bank, i have sold just one item in the guild store (which went for 40k) today i have exactly 700k gold banked which means other than making 12k gold per day from my writs (3 characters) that by far the most gold has come from farming runs. I run 2 farmng runs per day through OS and each of these runs is approx 2 hours duration, 4 hours x 4 days gives me approx completed 16 hours farming time for the ~400k extra that has been banked, that equates to 25k per hour gold from pick ups and selling to the merchant.. Its certainly "do-able" in 14 days if the poster puts in the time..

splitting it down:-
so700k - 200k = 500k
500k - 40k from GS = 460k
14 days writs x 12k day = 168k
460k - 168k = 292k
292k /14 days = 20.8k a day.

which is perfectly doable.

as you stated your grind time was a 4 grind.....hes stating 3mil in 2weeks.. which is 6x more, so unless hes a machine farming 24hrs a day... thats what i called bs on..

3 million in 2 weeks is VERY doable... but personally I'd do it by a combination of trading & crafting writs... Farming takes way too long to make gold in comparison.

With a combination of crafting writs on 5 charachters, and a LITTLE trading/flipping I still make 750k - 1 million per week. I don't even do that much trading at the minute... with a small amount of effort 3 million in 2 weeks is not hard tbh.

but the original post clearly stated that he wasnt flipping anything on ah, just grinding.. so please keep that garbage out..
people that just flip items dont help the economy, ur forcing items prices to go up, which then equalate to the gold you make, u then spend back on items others have inflated, which is more of a problem 2bh.. because unless you got the gold to start with , your only forcing others out of the market.. and limiting sales.

Jciampi · May 2017

Biro123 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Zydin wrote: »

Hey, so, the Necropotence farm is pretty awful. I've been farming it, regularly, for the past week or two, and the only Divines piece I've gotten is a hat. 4 of them. 4 Divines hats, and everything else either prosperous, infused, or training. On the flip side, I've gotten countless good pieces of Darkstride, and Vampire Lord or whatevever, but it's a crap set. So, a suggestion...

Why not introduce some kind of currency for farming in the overworld zones? Like tokens for killing world bosses, looting chests, completing delves (not just the first time, give us a reason to come back to these little gems), doing quests, whatever.

I'd recommend the tokens NOT be zone specific, as that would add too many different types of currency, and be annoying. Something similar to Tel Var stones, but for the PvE/Overworld areas. Put a vendor in each major city in that zone, and make the equipment BoP. It sucks competing with people looking to cash in on the latest meta, when you just wanna gear out your sorc. This would be a good, and potentially better alternative to getting the gear you want, without paying extreme prices for those that are happy to put in the time. It would also encourage people to do things other than World Boss rotations, or dolmen grinding, etc.

It can even be a sucky RNG loot bag, but at least let us choose what SET the loot bag is.

TLDR; Overworld Tokens for zone specific set gear to make the gear grind more bearable.

If they intriduced overland sets to purchase in desire trait via some currency then prices will go down a lot, no one will do any hard work to get a set..

Dungeons and Trials sets need some sort of currency for purchasing not overland as u can buy them from traders..

You can already farm hundreds of thousands of ap in no time and splurge it all on boxes to get it. I got both shape staves after spending over 1m AP in them, levelled up alliance rank etc as well. Not needed at all.

I spend over 2 million and got a sharpened resto and defending destro... Its still rng..

To the OP though - just know when to stop - its a game where you should be having fun. If you have a couple of pieces which don't have BiS traits, but the grind is killing you - just say 'It'll do' - and go do what you have fun with instead. Those last few won't make much difference in performance.

Agreed. Yes. Having all divines is great. But once I spent like $50k to make my last piece divines, it was a sturdy gauntlet currently. The total difference in critical chance with the thief mundus stone for more crit chance, after I gold upgraded the gauntlet, 1.3%. Wow. $50k for a 1% higher chance of crit.

I was so ticked at myself for wasting that money. Yeah having all 7 pieces divines is great. But really, 4 out of 5, or 5 out of 7 isn't bad. Yeah it's like 1 or 3 percent. But i don't see it negatively affecting you that badly that you won't enjoy the gear still

supaskrub · May 2017

bennysbeastb16_ESO2 wrote: »

supaskrub wrote: »

bennysbeastb16_ESO2 wrote: »

aLi3nZ wrote: »

I can farm like 3 million gold in 2 weeks. Why would you bother with this and not just use gold to buy? I already bought every necropotence peice including gold jelewery and 2 inferno staves

ok so what are u farming to make 3mil in two week, caus i call BS..
only way ur making that amount is by farming world bosses and getting lucky with RNG, their isnt anything else that can make you that amount of gold

Call BS all you like, this topic caught my interest as for the last four days I also am farming for Necro bits and bobs, I have everything except a sharp inferno staff. My farming spot is Obsidian Scar (OS) public dungeon. On Monday just passed i had less than 200k gold in the bank, i have sold just one item in the guild store (which went for 40k) today i have exactly 700k gold banked which means other than making 12k gold per day from my writs (3 characters) that by far the most gold has come from farming runs. I run 2 farmng runs per day through OS and each of these runs is approx 2 hours duration, 4 hours x 4 days gives me approx completed 16 hours farming time for the ~400k extra that has been banked, that equates to 25k per hour gold from pick ups and selling to the merchant.. Its certainly "do-able" in 14 days if the poster puts in the time..

splitting it down:-
so700k - 200k = 500k
500k - 40k from GS = 460k
14 days writs x 12k day = 168k
460k - 168k = 292k
292k /14 days = 20.8k a day.

which is perfectly doable.

as you stated your grind time was a 4 grind.....hes stating 3mil in 2weeks.. which is 6x more, so unless hes a machine farming 24hrs a day... thats what i called bs on..

The good news is.... I'm just done with the farming, got my sharp inferno within the first 10 minutes, just hung around to run off my enlightenment.. Using cold hard maths at a per hour rate only shows cold hard results, remember he is farming (more than likely to sell on if he is making 3 million a fortnight).. so rng permitting (and the odds are it will do ifhe puts the hours in.. he could easily sell a sharp inferno necro staff for 300k on xbox eu (i dont know the other markets).. he could easily get 3 or 4 of those in a fortnights worth of farming.. making that 3 million a fortnight just got quite easy.. (rng permitting)

Flaminir · May 2017

bennysbeastb16_ESO2 wrote: »

Flaminir wrote: »

bennysbeastb16_ESO2 wrote: »

supaskrub wrote: »

bennysbeastb16_ESO2 wrote: »

aLi3nZ wrote: »

I can farm like 3 million gold in 2 weeks. Why would you bother with this and not just use gold to buy? I already bought every necropotence peice including gold jelewery and 2 inferno staves

ok so what are u farming to make 3mil in two week, caus i call BS..
only way ur making that amount is by farming world bosses and getting lucky with RNG, their isnt anything else that can make you that amount of gold

Call BS all you like, this topic caught my interest as for the last four days I also am farming for Necro bits and bobs, I have everything except a sharp inferno staff. My farming spot is Obsidian Scar (OS) public dungeon. On Monday just passed i had less than 200k gold in the bank, i have sold just one item in the guild store (which went for 40k) today i have exactly 700k gold banked which means other than making 12k gold per day from my writs (3 characters) that by far the most gold has come from farming runs. I run 2 farmng runs per day through OS and each of these runs is approx 2 hours duration, 4 hours x 4 days gives me approx completed 16 hours farming time for the ~400k extra that has been banked, that equates to 25k per hour gold from pick ups and selling to the merchant.. Its certainly "do-able" in 14 days if the poster puts in the time..

splitting it down:-
so700k - 200k = 500k
500k - 40k from GS = 460k
14 days writs x 12k day = 168k
460k - 168k = 292k
292k /14 days = 20.8k a day.

which is perfectly doable.

as you stated your grind time was a 4 grind.....hes stating 3mil in 2weeks.. which is 6x more, so unless hes a machine farming 24hrs a day... thats what i called bs on..

3 million in 2 weeks is VERY doable... but personally I'd do it by a combination of trading & crafting writs... Farming takes way too long to make gold in comparison.

With a combination of crafting writs on 5 charachters, and a LITTLE trading/flipping I still make 750k - 1 million per week. I don't even do that much trading at the minute... with a small amount of effort 3 million in 2 weeks is not hard tbh.

but the original post clearly stated that he wasnt flipping anything on ah, just grinding.. so please keep that garbage out..
people that just flip items dont help the economy, ur forcing items prices to go up, which then equalate to the gold you make, u then spend back on items others have inflated, which is more of a problem 2bh.. because unless you got the gold to start with , your only forcing others out of the market.. and limiting sales.

The joy of the ESO economy is that there are a variety of methods of making gold, working from zero gold upwards, and no single person can easily impact the market in the way that you are talking about... so the comments about me being the 'bad guy' and forcing people out of the market and putting prices up are demonstrably false.

But back on topic with Necro aquisition discussion.... The original comment from somebody else was around going and earning gold by other means and then just buying the items as a quicker way of doing it rather than grinding for weeks until your eyes bleed in the hope that mistress RNG smiles kindly.... thats what I was referring to, and agreeing that actually it can be a far quicker and more reliable option when people are complaining of RNG woes.

BTW... flipping itself doesnt usually raise prices... If I find a sharpened necro fire staff in a remote trader for 5k I can't manipulate the market with that, only sell it on for market price.... thats the whole point of trading, that it allows you to sell for current market price. Its the wider supply/demand based on Zos mechanics and current meta builds that drives the really significant price rises/decreases.

bennysbeastb16_ESO2 · May 2017

yea but we know that isnt what happens, caus no1 puts up a staff for 5k, more like they stick it up for 200k and u flip it 350-400k, and lets be honest you wouldnt be making 3mil a few flipping a few k's, nor would be running all over the world, for a few k's..

also common knowledge hat the rich put items up for sale, and get their mates to buy items(giving them gold bk) so that Master merchant average price goes up, you only have to look at data charts to see it.

flipping items send prices up, it always has and always will, only in large commodities (like gold mats) were it cant be done efficiently.

Flaminir · May 2017

bennysbeastb16_ESO2 wrote: »

yea but we know that isnt what happens, caus no1 puts up a staff for 5k, more like they stick it up for 200k and u flip it 350-400k, and lets be honest you wouldnt be making 3mil a few flipping a few k's, nor would be running all over the world, for a few k's..

also common knowledge hat the rich put items up for sale, and get their mates to buy items(giving them gold bk) so that Master merchant average price goes up, you only have to look at data charts to see it.

flipping items send prices up, it always has and always will, only in large commodities (like gold mats) were it cant be done efficiently.

Well what can I say...

I do find some big bargains like that...

I do make a million a week just from crafting writs and selling the contents along with a bit of high end flipping...

I have never found anybody getting their mates to buy stuff, they certainly haven't bought my stuff! lol

Flipping doesn't put prices up. You are confusing this with attempted deliberate market manipulation and the two things are as different as chalk & cheese.

But anyway, its not a discussion on that.... so I will just end with one simple statement and leave it there:

If you are struggling with RNG on drops like this where you do have the option of buying the item for gold, its often quicker, easier, more reliable, and less soul destroying to go and earn the gold in one of a hundred different ways and just buy the item in a trader than it is to farm it & hope RNG gives it to you quicker...

Its all a gamble either way, but one way you know what the outcome will be and have an end in sight.... personally I find that more palatable and doesn't de-motivate me in the way and endless RNG grind can easily do.

GrigorijMalahevich · May 2017

Infused necro on large items is quite good and training necro is cool if you are not max CP yet and planning some grinding in the future...

The chat in Necro area is great, I have inferno and lightning necro sharp staves on my sorc and I sold about 8 staves already while farming for it, I only got two staves... Zone chat with people that have no idea how much it costs is great

bennysbeastb16_ESO2 · May 2017

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I do make a million a week just from crafting writs and selling the contents along with a bit of high end flipping...

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thats just funny to read, caus crafting writs dont bring anywhere near 1 mil a week end off, i know i do 6 chars worth of them everyday.... so a bit of flipping is really enormous amounts; not a little.
but yea your right were end it their caus really all im doing is just stating the obvious.

Phatmattfu · May 2017

Get the treasure hunter CP.

There is a bunch of chests along the shore.
Learn where they all are.
Go up and down and hit the beautiful orc boss as well.
Me and her have shared some rough but fun times.

Not saying you will get what you need, but you will have certainly gotten a few $$ drops to help buy what you need.

Zydin · May 2017

Well, this got a lot more replies than I thought it would.

To those giving advice on farming, thanks. That's great, but I know how to farm, hopefully some other folks reading can take away some tips!

I didn't know you could spend AP for this stuff. So that's good info for me, thanks.

I still think for those that don't PvP, some kind of token system for overland sets, with RNG loot bags of a specific set (maybe not specific trait) would be nice.

I have the money to buy it, sure, that's no problem. But the reason I have the money to buy it, is because I don't buy things I theoretically can farm myself.

Thanks again for all the feedback, and keeping it civil!

Zydin · May 2017

Annnnnd right after I post this I get a Divines Necropotence robe. I think RNGesus needed a sacrifice in the form of a forum post to shine his filthy loot beam upon my wanting head.

jakeedmundson · May 2017

Pro tip....stop wasting time farming perfect armor traits.

Traits on armor make a MINIMAL difference.
Its insane that some people are spending 100k+ on a divine belt or boots!

Lets say you get divine on 2 pieces... leaving 3 pieces without it. because chest and legs are easier to farm.

Everyone uses the thief mundus... so even if you GOLD out your armor (which you would also be stupid for doing because its a waste of mats)... you would only gain 2.7% crit chance! or closer to 2% if its purple gear.

Is less than 3% crit worth wasting DOZENS of hours or literally hundreds of thousands of gold? nope... its not.
You could do any trial without divine gear. Even from a min maxing standpoint... the dps difference is minimal.

Feanor · May 2017

It's just human nature to always want the very best thing. We seldom settle willingly for 2nd place, we just do it when we have to. Game design has long implemented these basic psychology findings.

jakeedmundson · May 2017

Feanor wrote: »

It's just human nature to always want the very best thing. We seldom settle willingly for 2nd place, we just do it when we have to. Game design has long implemented these basic psychology findings.

If people want first place then they need work on whats more important in this game... skill rotation.
a few traits on gear has almost no effect on dps output...
meanwhile... not weaving, using weaker skills, and/or letting your dots fall off your target (or applying them way too early every rotation) will destroy dps.

People get way too focused on gear and traits.

DjMuscleboy02 · May 2017

I got all mine for under 15k each from random low key traders I'd login and check while I ate breakfast before work

Zydin · May 2017

Pro tip....stop wasting time farming perfect armor traits.

That's great for you m8. And I agree, having the best traits on all gear all golded out doesn't make a big difference in trials etc.

My gameplay probably differs from yours. I end up 3 manning vet dungeons with 3 DPS instead of your typical builds. So, having the right traits is pretty important when every bit counts, but thanks for the input!

Sallington · May 2017

There's no reason to get upset while farming Overland sets. There's so freaking many of each set in the guild stores.

Sell the pieces you got but didn't need while farming, and buy the pieces you still need. No BoE sets have an availability issue.

Flaminir · May 2017

@bennysbeastb16_ESO2

Crafting writs last week over 400k profit across 5 main charachters

I'll admit this is a bit higher than normal (Its still RNG based afterall... but a quicker version with higher frequency of drops to allow RNG to level out quicker) , but if I make less than quarter of a million a week on these then I feel I've had a bad week.

Pretty good earner for 30-45mins a day & lets me then buy stuff like Necro without farming. Pretty solid farming alternative.

Veraen · May 2017

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

TheQueenOfSass wrote: »

Do some pvp and get the coffers from the zone specific vendors that's how I got mine and it didn't take long at all good luck!

I had no clue this even existed lol. So you can use your AP and go to PVE zones and get that zones gear or what?

Not exactly. There is a vendor in Cyrodiil called the "regional goods vendor" and you buy boxes with AP that have a random piece of gear that drops from that zone.

QuebraRegra · May 2017

what's the estimated cost of a NECRO ICE destruction staff about now on XBOX NA? sharpened would be nice (I think)

SPE825 · May 2017

With everyone farming and obcesing over this set, it won't be too long until it gets nerfed just like Burning Spellweave did for the same reason.

SPE825 · May 2017

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Pro tip....stop wasting time farming perfect armor traits.

Traits on armor make a MINIMAL difference.
Its insane that some people are spending 100k+ on a divine belt or boots!

Lets say you get divine on 2 pieces... leaving 3 pieces without it. because chest and legs are easier to farm.

Everyone uses the thief mundus... so even if you GOLD out your armor (which you would also be stupid for doing because its a waste of mats)... you would only gain 2.7% crit chance! or closer to 2% if its purple gear.

Is less than 3% crit worth wasting DOZENS of hours or literally hundreds of thousands of gold? nope... its not.
You could do any trial without divine gear. Even from a min maxing standpoint... the dps difference is minimal.

^ This. I mean if you're not going for some kind of world record, and you know how to play you'll be fine. Of course, you still don't want prosperous and training, which you'll still get 50% of the time when farming, lol.

alexkdd99 · May 2017

I probably shouldn't post this since it will mean less chest for me but oh well.

Instead of going and standing around waiting for the boss to spawn, go around and grab treasure chest between spawns. The 2 bosses in rivenspire that are close together and being farmed have quite a few chest in the immediate vicinity.

I got multiple sets of necro in impenetrable and divines in less than a week doing this. And use the treasure hunter passive.

Mojmir · May 2017

Best way to farm is solo and know the zone,this applies to anything your farming. T Hunter cp star,rapids,and know where the chests spawn.

acw37162 · May 2017

Just wait shaprnend sun swords are going to make a comeback and be a terrible grind.

Karivaa · May 2017

Go to PVP and use ap to buy them.

Didgerion · May 2017

Zydin wrote: »

Hey, so, the Necropotence farm is pretty awful. I've been farming it, regularly, for the past week or two, and the only Divines piece I've gotten is a hat. 4 of them. 4 Divines hats, and everything else either prosperous, infused, or training. On the flip side, I've gotten countless good pieces of Darkstride, and Vampire Lord or whatevever, but it's a crap set. So, a suggestion...

Why not introduce some kind of currency for farming in the overworld zones? Like tokens for killing world bosses, looting chests, completing delves (not just the first time, give us a reason to come back to these little gems), doing quests, whatever.

I'd recommend the tokens NOT be zone specific, as that would add too many different types of currency, and be annoying. Something similar to Tel Var stones, but for the PvE/Overworld areas. Put a vendor in each major city in that zone, and make the equipment BoP. It sucks competing with people looking to cash in on the latest meta, when you just wanna gear out your sorc. This would be a good, and potentially better alternative to getting the gear you want, without paying extreme prices for those that are happy to put in the time. It would also encourage people to do things other than World Boss rotations, or dolmen grinding, etc.

It can even be a sucky RNG loot bag, but at least let us choose what SET the loot bag is.

TLDR; Overworld Tokens for zone specific set gear to make the gear grind more bearable.

Sell your divines hats and buy the pieces you miss!

Didgerion · May 2017

Zydin wrote: »

TLDR; Overworld Tokens for zone specific set gear to make the gear grind more bearable.

No tokens needed. We just need a rare stone that would allow us to alter the gear trait.

The stone should be given randomly for completing repeatable or non repeatable content and as a pvp reward - make it bind un pickup to avoid the potentially broken farming spots.

And all this night-mare gear farming that makes the game unbearable sometimes will disappear!!!

chaz · November 2018

Any idea what World boss is most likely to drop legs of the necropotence set?