Tip to Solo Blackheart Haven (as a DPS build)

Gamanoid · May 2017

As you all know, the final boss in Blackheart Haven targets a random player and converts them into a skeleton.
You essentially have 15-20 seconds to get off any damage/heals before turning into a mostly useless skeleton for essentially the rest of the fight.

The trick here is to convert (using an ultimate) into a form that does not rely on conventional skills. The forms I know off the top of my head are:
1) Werewolf
2) Overload - bar

These forms make you immune to being converted into a skeleton.

If you have overload, put dark exchange, some dots (liquid lightning & pet) and maybe a shield/surge. Kite boss towards the spawning adds and apply dots. Slow and steady, always position adds with boss and watch the solo dungeon turn into ez mode.

Happy hunting

PS: Make sure you don't lose/convert from the form, otherwise the boss will convert you into a spooky scary skeleton and you'll get gibbed.

Drummerx04 · May 2017

Pretty slick, but you accidentally turned this into a nerf sorc thread, so I can't give you an insightful

Gamanoid · May 2017

Haha fair point, though I did add werewolf as an option to hide it

Vapirko · May 2017

Nice! Great suggestion for farming Bone Pirates, with the passives two werewolves could finish this off easy.

Insomnia rex · May 2017

Just asking because I encountered very different behaviour: When I get transformed while being in overload bar (it does not make me immune to it) it semi permanently bugs out the overload bar.. I had to write a ticket and posted a bug report here as well. Friends have replicated the bug I encountered. When was the last time you tried this? ( See: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/339807/pc-eu-bug-blackheart-haven-skeleton-polymorph-can-permanently-bug-the-overload-bar ) Based on my experiences I can not recommend trying this atm.

Merlin13KAGL · May 2017

Same as @Insomnia rex . Just jacks up your bar, doesn't prevent the turn.

Gamanoid · May 2017

Insomnia rex wrote: »

Just asking because I encountered very different behaviour: When I get transformed while being in overload bar (it does not make me immune to it) it semi permanently bugs out the overload bar.. I had to write a ticket and posted a bug report here as well. Friends have replicated the bug I encountered. When was the last time you tried this? ( See: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/339807/pc-eu-bug-blackheart-haven-skeleton-polymorph-can-permanently-bug-the-overload-bar ) Based on my experiences I can not recommend trying this atm.

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Same as @Insomnia rex . Just jacks up your bar, doesn't prevent the turn.

That's interesting as of the time of originally posting (May 3rd) I had successfully soloed Blackheart Haven by using the overload-bar.

Just quick clarification:
- Were you solo? If there are more people in the dungeon, perhaps it still triggers a conversion which targets a random player. It might be globally triggered in the instance so might ignore your overload.
-- When I tested it I was solo and as long as I had overload active and not lose/switch out from it, I was not turned at all.
- Did you at any point lose or drop out of overload? Except for the first few seconds, you should not lose overload or use the attacks that deplete it at all as that's what is stopping you from turning.

I reproduced it several times when I made the original post and did the following method:
- Regular fight: got turned after 15-20 seconds - dead
- Fight with dots and overload: Did not get turned as long as overload was active and full (ie. not depleted with attacks)
- Overload fight but lose/turn-off overload partway through the fight: turned almost immediately after overload drops

Also I believe it was either the unmoprhed overload or energy overload (I had respecced my skills and forgot if I had remorphed it or not).

I do not recall my overload bar being jacked or messed up.

pizzaow · May 2017

Interesting idea; I'll give it a shot. My plan was to try on my tank with damage based proc sets like leeching, scourge harvester, and another one... reactive, seventh legion, imperium.etc.

This sounds like a better plan if overload works... I'd have a hard time maintaining werewolf for the duration of the fight.

zigzagzen · May 2017

Wonder if reactive would treat being turned into a skele as a disabling effect...

zigzagzen · May 2017

On a related note, using Troll King or Harvester with Leeching Plate, along with Bahraha's Curse can allow you to survive being a skeleton for quite some time. B's Curse will allow you to do some damage too, and increase the healing.

Juggernuts and Hatchling bubble can also keep you alive for a bit

Insomnia rex · May 2017

Hey @Gamanoid, I was not solo. I encountered this because we duo the vet pledges and for the more annoying bosses we go for double pet sorc with both overload. With energy overload morph, for better resource management.

We only encountered this bug, when we were active on the overload bar while being turned. This was new to me, thats why I was asking about when you did it solo. We used to save up to 500 for this fight, which makes it very quick and reliable with two sorcs & dots. We have never avoided being turned in any way. If you can avoid it solo that's pretty amazing tbh, because that's the thing that kept me from trying.

Gamanoid wrote: »

- Were you solo? If there are more people in the dungeon, perhaps it still triggers a conversion which targets a random player. It might be globally triggered in the instance so might ignore your overload.

Valid theory. Will definitely try this boss fight solo next time the pledge pops up!

Lylith · October 2018

now that sorcs are nerfed and overload is trash, only werewolves need apply.

well done, whiners.

sharquez · October 2018

Lylith wrote: »

now that sorcs are nerfed and overload is trash, only werewolves need apply.

well done, whiners.

If you think overload is trash you'd be wrong, horribly. it's stronger than ever. Heavys do more damage than lights and lights can be fired twice as fast WITH SKILLS, even if their damage was halved.

Joosef_Kivikilpi · November 2018

sharquez wrote: »

Lylith wrote: »

now that sorcs are nerfed and overload is trash, only werewolves need apply.

well done, whiners.

If you think overload is trash you'd be wrong, horribly. it's stronger than ever. Heavys do more damage than lights and lights can be fired twice as fast WITH SKILLS, even if their damage was halved.

How much damage does a Heavy Attack do?

... you know... asking for a friend of course. haha

Nestor · November 2018

Have you ever just light attacked while transformed in there? Its like being on overload. The Mobs just melt with one shots. At least the last time I was in there.

Lylith · November 2018

sharquez wrote: »

Lylith wrote: »

now that sorcs are nerfed and overload is trash, only werewolves need apply.

well done, whiners.

If you think overload is trash you'd be wrong, horribly. it's stronger than ever. Heavys do more damage than lights and lights can be fired twice as fast WITH SKILLS, even if their damage was halved.

dunno, seems clunky as hell to me. i'll give it another shot, then.

my real *** is the loss of the overload bar = absolute trash.

btw, overload doesn't allow the bypass of mechanics in blackheart any more, which was the point of the thread and post, originally.

SirAndy · November 2018

Nestor wrote: »

Have you ever just light attacked while transformed in there? Its like being on overload. The Mobs just melt with one shots. At least the last time I was in there.

Not enough to survive solo, once you have been transformed, the boss will wear you down quick.
And if you try to outrun him the fight resets.

At this point, the only way left to solo seems to be werewolf ...