The argument against hiding vampirism is selfish and ridiculous

KochDerDamonen · May 2017

no, you are a vampire and I wanna force my cosmetic preference on you even though I can choose to stay looking a vampire myself if i want and even tho players can hide their skins already with hidious flashlight skins and disguises

Just make vamps more fang-y and less vein-y

Seriously ZOS why are they butt ugly

They don't have to be that ugly

Enslaved · May 2017

Yes, if pay/ or love to earn a mortal skin disguise so i could hide my vamparism and help with rp (vampires would hide among mortals) and so i can enjoy not having my tatoos bleached and not looking overall ugly

On some characters I would keep the vampire look, but on others, I would rather hide it. If count from Rivenspire can do it, why can't some 10M + player vampire chars do it?

CaptainBeerDude · May 2017

no, you are a vampire and I wanna force my cosmetic preference on you even though I can choose to stay looking a vampire myself if i want and even tho players can hide their skins already with hidious flashlight skins and disguises

ADarklore wrote: »

CaptainBeerDude wrote: »

Don't you hide it by feeding regularly?

Because the entire point of being a vampire is having extra skills and bonus, which ZOS has decided only comes from increasing levels of vampirism. So if one was going to feed regularly, then it would defeat the entire purpose of being a vampire, so if feeding is your response to hiding vampirism, then you might as well not even be one.

Two of my characters are vampires, and while I do agree it makes them fugly, I also believe that if one CHOOSES to become a vampire, then one must also accept everything that it means... including the ugliness factor the higher your vampirism level reaches.

That's the cost though. More power, be fugly or less power and look 'normal'.

theher0not · May 2017

no, you are a vampire and I wanna force my cosmetic preference on you even though I can choose to stay looking a vampire myself if i want and even tho players can hide their skins already with hidious flashlight skins and disguises

I choose the wrong option.

I want to see a way to hide vampirism. The vampire skin looks really bad and is the main reason I am not playing as a vamp.

IMHO having to choose between cosmetic looks and power is almost always terrible game design.

Vipstaakki · May 2017

no, you are a vampire and I wanna force my cosmetic preference on you even though I can choose to stay looking a vampire myself if i want and even tho players can hide their skins already with hidious flashlight skins and disguises

Biased. Poll is biased.

FrancisCrawford · May 2017

theher0not wrote: »

IMHO having to choose between cosmetic looks and power is almost always terrible game design.

Indeed.

Mojmir · May 2017

Wanting to hide something you graciously sought to get should not be allowed.

Shardan4968 · May 2017

Yes, if pay/ or love to earn a mortal skin disguise so i could hide my vamparism and help with rp (vampires would hide among mortals) and so i can enjoy not having my tatoos bleached and not looking overall ugly

In TES Oblivion, If you drink blood often, then you look normal. There even was a quest about Altmer who created organization against vampires and he was the hidden vampire as well. This is 100% lore friendly, so calm down.

RT_Frank · May 2017

Yes, if pay/ or love to earn a mortal skin disguise so i could hide my vamparism and help with rp (vampires would hide among mortals) and so i can enjoy not having my tatoos bleached and not looking overall ugly

The fact that there are people against hiding vampirism when things like skins, costumes, and hide helmet exist shows how dumb people are. Let the RPers have fun with their sexy vamps

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Sharee · May 2017

Yes, if pay/ or love to earn a mortal skin disguise so i could hide my vamparism and help with rp (vampires would hide among mortals) and so i can enjoy not having my tatoos bleached and not looking overall ugly

ComboBreaker88 wrote: »

Your argument is about as valid as saying your Argonian shouldn't be forced to have scales or a tail.

As they say, one picture is worth a thousand words:

Saturnana · May 2017

Wow, biased poll is biased.

I don't really see your problem. If you want to hide your vampirism then there's plenty of options to do that in-game, either through costumes, skins, hats or other stuff. If you don't want to hide your vampirism.. then don't. What you're basically asking for here is a bland/vanilla normal-person-looking skin which will only have use for a portion of the players (since applying it on a non-vamp character wouldn't change anything).

Speaking of selfish and ridiculous..

ComboBreaker88 · May 2017

Orbital wrote: »

who gives a flying f mate
mols been broken for 72 days and your crying about vampire

It's been broken since they put it in the game. Lmao

Orbital · May 2017

on console its been fully working for 1 patch
its an absolute joke, but yeah my lifes not complete unless i can dance around picking flowers completing quests
using mist form with healthy skin

jesus christ stop the presses

starkerealm · May 2017

Yes, if pay/ or love to earn a mortal skin disguise so i could hide my vamparism and help with rp (vampires would hide among mortals) and so i can enjoy not having my tatoos bleached and not looking overall ugly

Sharee wrote: »

ComboBreaker88 wrote: »

Your argument is about as valid as saying your Argonian shouldn't be forced to have scales or a tail.

As they say, one picture is worth a thousand words:

Raz's costume fetish just keeps getting weirder as time goes by.

Lavennin · May 2017

no, you are a vampire and I wanna force my cosmetic preference on you even though I can choose to stay looking a vampire myself if i want and even tho players can hide their skins already with hidious flashlight skins and disguises

I just want to know one thing: if hiding vampirism is allowed, do I get an option to still see through your disguise outside PVP?

Whatever you do, and no matter how much you think of it as a personal choice, will still inevitably have an impact on other people's experience, because it's not a single player game.

I'd like to be able to tell vampires and mortals apart.

Oh, and I do support a tattoo fix and a more mortal-looking stage I. I just don't want the disguise to be forced upon me, because it will if others can easily hide their nature and my character can do nothing about it.

teladoy · May 2017

no, you are a vampire and I wanna force my cosmetic preference on you even though I can choose to stay looking a vampire myself if i want and even tho players can hide their skins already with hidious flashlight skins and disguises

Vampires are Vampires, in my opinion a good solution is make Stage 1 Vampirism to look normal and start to change if you don't feed.

Enslaved · May 2017

Yes, if pay/ or love to earn a mortal skin disguise so i could hide my vamparism and help with rp (vampires would hide among mortals) and so i can enjoy not having my tatoos bleached and not looking overall ugly

Orbital wrote: »

on console its been fully working for 1 patch
its an absolute joke, but yeah my lifes not complete unless i can dance around picking flowers completing quests
using mist form with healthy skin

jesus christ stop the presses

"You know what, I dont give skeever's ass about your MoL problems on a Xpleb or PlebS4. Buy a PC like a normal, self respecting being."

Now this is what I would write to you as an answer, using your logic, style and tone. Bit rude, don't you think? Also, has nothing to do with OP's thread.

Also, dungeon finder is broken. And gap closer still gets you falling trough ground. And bolt escape is likely to make your char unable to do anything for a few seconds. And I bet there are 9000 more problems in this game. Still has nothing to do with OP's thread.

Gandrhulf_Harbard · May 2017

no, you are a vampire and I wanna force my cosmetic preference on you even though I can choose to stay looking a vampire myself if i want and even tho players can hide their skins already with hidious flashlight skins and disguises

aliyavana wrote: »

Of course I'm aggressive, rp and visuals are one of my main factors for playing this game and being forced to min max as a vamp ruins the visual factor in gameplay

So you want to RP a vampire by not looking like a Vampire?

Well, that makes no sense at all.

Don't want to look like a Vampire? Don't be one.

Simples.

/thread.

All The Best

FoulSnowpaw · May 2017

no, you are a vampire and I wanna force my cosmetic preference on you even though I can choose to stay looking a vampire myself if i want and even tho players can hide their skins already with hidious flashlight skins and disguises

Just gonna say,
If you want to look pretty don't become ugly vampire. Become handsome werewolf like me.

I like @Giles.floydub17_ESO points though. Ultimate could be vampire lord form from Skyrim: Dawnguard.

bloodthirstyvampire · May 2017

aliyavana wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Why do you want to hide it? Embrace the curse!

Oh, and coming off all aggressive and *** is not the best way to put your point across... Just a diplomacy tip.

If vampirism looked liked it did in skyrim yes... th it's meh

I think clavicus had a hand in that, tho i prefer to look like a bloodthirstyvampire i Wouldn't mind if they had it its lore friendly, also it should not be available to the dominion

Enslaved · May 2017

Yes, if pay/ or love to earn a mortal skin disguise so i could hide my vamparism and help with rp (vampires would hide among mortals) and so i can enjoy not having my tatoos bleached and not looking overall ugly

Zarkeson wrote: »

Just gonna say,
If you want to look pretty don't become ugly vampire. Become handsome werewolf like me.

I like @Giles.floydub17_ESO points though. Ultimate could be vampire lord form from Skyrim: Dawnguard.

12 chars, most of them are either Vampire or WW. Still would be nice to be able to hide vampirism somehow beside using somewhat ugly skins or not that interesting costumes.

Maybe if crown store costumes could have an option to hide visual effect of vampirism I would buy more of these. Please, Zos, take my money.

Almariel · May 2017

Yes, if pay/ or love to earn a mortal skin disguise so i could hide my vamparism and help with rp (vampires would hide among mortals) and so i can enjoy not having my tatoos bleached and not looking overall ugly

Ii think, only phase 4 is really ugly. And as we already have several ways to hide our vampirism, why not giving us an additional one? One where we don`t have to use ugly glow-in-the-dark skins or disguises. I would be perfectly happy with a vampiric disguise package, where you can choose which phase you want to look like, without loosing the benefits of your real vampiric phase.

SquareSausage · May 2017

I don't like vamp skin and wish could remove it but the poll is biased as F.

Dracindo · May 2017

I don't care, really, but I remember a guy screwing up with a spell, causing him to change genders (teach me, senpai), so I wouldn't see why vampires can't hide vampirism.

At least have an exception: Vampire traits show in daylight, if need be only shows at higher stages of vampirism.

kargen27 · May 2017

aliyavana wrote: »

Of course I'm aggressive, rp and visuals are one of my main factors for playing this game and being forced to min max as a vamp ruins the visual factor in gameplay

If you role play a vamp shouldn't you want to look like a vamp? I'm role playing devils advocate here!

Tommy_The_Gun · May 2017

no, you are a vampire and I wanna force my cosmetic preference on you even though I can choose to stay looking a vampire myself if i want and even tho players can hide their skins already with hidious flashlight skins and disguises

There Should be a third option for voting (Other) ^ ^ ^

Well... If we compare Vamp & WW - Vamp gets constant, always working passives... WW passives only work during transformation time.

As far as PvE goes - it is purely cosmetic (maybe ZOS will introduce some special "disguises" or "alternative look" for WW & Vamps, whatever obtainable via quests or Crown store).

For PvP ? duels - it is important to know that you are fighting against a vampire. In Cyro PvP we already have problems with people using disguises so you are never sure if you are fighting against 0-dmg "brick" unkillable tank or an actual DPS. People just run frost staff + full heavy impen and wear a disguise to trick people that the are squishy mages...
There is now way to know that...

WuffyCerulei · May 2017

Yes, if pay/ or love to earn a mortal skin disguise so i could hide my vamparism and help with rp (vampires would hide among mortals) and so i can enjoy not having my tatoos bleached and not looking overall ugly

Since the want to hide vampirism is a cosmetic thing, there should be a skin that just says "Natural" in the crown store for like 700 crowns. It's not fancy. Just hides anything like vampirism and gives people the option to look un-undead without breaking their backs to get one of the in-game skins.

Aliyavana · May 2017

Yes, if pay/ or love to earn a mortal skin disguise so i could hide my vamparism and help with rp (vampires would hide among mortals) and so i can enjoy not having my tatoos bleached and not looking overall ugly

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

There Should be a third option for voting (Other) ^ ^ ^

Well... If we compare Vamp & WW - Vamp gets constant, always working passives... WW passives only work during transformation time.

As far as PvE goes - it is purely cosmetic (maybe ZOS will introduce some special "disguises" or "alternative look" for WW & Vamps, whatever obtainable via quests or Crown store).

For PvP ? duels - it is important to know that you are fighting against a vampire. In Cyro PvP we already have problems with people using disguises so you are never sure if you are fighting against 0-dmg "brick" unkillable tank or an actual DPS. People just run frost staff + full heavy impen and wear a disguise to trick people that the are squishy mages...
There is now way to know that...

Morrowind will have buff trackers so even console peas... I mean players will get to tell if a person is a vampire whether theu are polynorphed etc

Enslaved · May 2017

Yes, if pay/ or love to earn a mortal skin disguise so i could hide my vamparism and help with rp (vampires would hide among mortals) and so i can enjoy not having my tatoos bleached and not looking overall ugly

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

There Should be a third option for voting (Other) ^ ^ ^

Well... If we compare Vamp & WW - Vamp gets constant, always working passives... WW passives only work during transformation time.

As far as PvE goes - it is purely cosmetic (maybe ZOS will introduce some special "disguises" or "alternative look" for WW & Vamps, whatever obtainable via quests or Crown store).

For PvP ? duels - it is important to know that you are fighting against a vampire. In Cyro PvP we already have problems with people using disguises so you are never sure if you are fighting against 0-dmg "brick" unkillable tank or an actual DPS. People just run frost staff + full heavy impen and wear a disguise to trick people that the are squishy mages...
There is now way to know that...

Addons show you if player is WW or Vampire. Any addon that shows buffs on target is capable of that. Even if you don't use them, there are ways to know. For example, a skill in Fighter's Guild and its morphs evil/camuflaged hunter.

If anyone would love to truly disguise themselves, even to the point of you not knowing their race, there are polymorphs that do that job just fine.

Axoinus · May 2017

Wear a helmet.