In reading another thread here I feel the whole argument that's being thrown around is that its one of the downsides of looking like a vampire and to deal with it, use a skin etc... stop telling us to deal with it, if you want to look like a vampire its fine but don't force it on us and tell us how to play the game just because you think vampires should look like it. you can hide vampirism with wearing covered motifs and you can use disguises and with skins that i earned which are equally hidious so why cant i earn a skin to look normal? plus addons tell you if a person is a vampire anyway on pc. quest in friggin rivenspire and you can see varandis ravenwatch hiding his vampirism perfectly fine so don't give me this "its a different strain so its lore" as if a npc can hide it why cant we? I am a master vampire so why havnt I learned the ability to hide it by now? I would spend one of my 327 skillpoints if I could to hide my vampirism or love to unlock it as a skin from being a master vampire. At this point I would even buy it from the crown store...

tldr its cute that you all think vampires shouldn't be able to hide their vampirism but I gave you a lore reason along with equally restrictive and hideous bypasses for hiding it. if you want vampires to look like that just stay looking like a vampire? a smart vampire would blend in to the crowds in the city anyway. cosmetic changes will not increase my dps or give me an advantage over other players.

With morrowind sustain will be an issue so even more people will flock into droves to become a vampire. DO NOT say to use a disguise as they make buying costumes and hairstyles redundant as they hide them. DO NOT FRIGGIN DARE suggest to use those equally horrible Flashlight skins either as that defeats the purpose. Console players and of players will have access to buff trackers that will let you know if a person is a vampire by targetting them in morrowind so don't use that equally stupid argument where you need to see someone is a vampire even tho you could already cover your skin before...

Edit: I'm sorry I cannot see from the other sides point of view. As a min/maxer I shouldn't be punished with looking ugly. Look at dropped sets for example we are forced to use ugly grothgar, etc... Me looking like a normal human will not enable cheats that will let me spam infinite eye of storms. The arguement of not being able to tell if a character is a vampire is invalidated with buff trackers introduced next month. At this point I feel the other side just wants us to look like a horrible joker immitation because "its a debuff" yer I can already hide it easily already...

Either way if zos ever adds the mortal guise there is nothing you all could do to stop me from wearing it knowing zos they know there is a demand for it and will likely be added to the crown store! and believe me, me and many others would buy it in a heartbeat get triggered . Lore and my cosmetic preference> you all saying to suck it up. Npcs get all the cool stuff yet you all are saying this is a one of the downsides... min maxing shouldn't be a punishment. Look at howmany people ask for a transmog system as you can see many people want to have control over their looks and not be punished with *** looking sets like grothdar


@ZOS_GinaBruno there is clearly a demand for a mortal guise to hide vampirism. the counter argument is that it is a curse and its ugliness is a punishment when there is a npc named count verandis that can hide his vampirism fine... to appease those who have this argument I recommend putting it in the crown store for 5kish crowns... that way those who wish to hide it will be supporting the game and those who are arguing its a punishment will atleast see less people having it as a disguise and they cannot tell us how to spend our money and cant complain that we are supporting the game.