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Trait Change feature?

oMrRust
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I know it most likely wouldn't happen but what if they could add it but make it cost 1 million gold or more just to change it to what you want.
I just did vMA 2 times in a row now & I gotten Restoration staff precise & maul infused. & it'd be nice if I could swap infused to sharpened ot defending so it could back bar on my nb.
  • DRXHarbinger
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    OhAmex wrote: »
    I know it most likely wouldn't happen but what if they could add it but make it cost 1 million gold or more just to change it to what you want.
    I just did vMA 2 times in a row now & I gotten Restoration staff precise & maul infused. & it'd be nice if I could swap infused to sharpened ot defending so it could back bar on my nb.

    Yeah it would be nice to only have to run it two times. Some of us spent 10x weekly for a year. Get back in there and put more effort in.
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  • NecroEnzo
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    OhAmex wrote: »
    I know it most likely wouldn't happen but what if they could add it but make it cost 1 million gold or more just to change it to what you want.
    I just did vMA 2 times in a row now & I gotten Restoration staff precise & maul infused. & it'd be nice if I could swap infused to sharpened ot defending so it could back bar on my nb.

    Yeah it would be nice to only have to run it two times. Some of us spent 10x weekly for a year. Get back in there and put more effort in.

    So because you suffer, everyone has to suffer, rather than the status quo improving for everyone.

    Nifty.
  • Sheva I 7 I
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    OhAmex wrote: »
    I know it most likely wouldn't happen but what if they could add it but make it cost 1 million gold or more just to change it to what you want.
    I just did vMA 2 times in a row now & I gotten Restoration staff precise & maul infused. & it'd be nice if I could swap infused to sharpened ot defending so it could back bar on my nb.

    Yeah it would be nice to only have to run it two times. Some of us spent 10x weekly for a year. Get back in there and put more effort in.

    i have every sharpened weapon except for 2 hander
    I still think this feature should be implemented
  • Pixel_Zealot
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    I agree the grind is tiresome but no. Being able to change stats on dropped gear would make crafting redundant.
    Dragonborn, huh? Was it your ma or your pa that was the dragon?
  • DRXHarbinger
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    NecroEnzo wrote: »
    OhAmex wrote: »
    I know it most likely wouldn't happen but what if they could add it but make it cost 1 million gold or more just to change it to what you want.
    I just did vMA 2 times in a row now & I gotten Restoration staff precise & maul infused. & it'd be nice if I could swap infused to sharpened ot defending so it could back bar on my nb.

    Yeah it would be nice to only have to run it two times. Some of us spent 10x weekly for a year. Get back in there and put more effort in.

    So because you suffer, everyone has to suffer, rather than the status quo improving for everyone.

    Nifty.

    99% of us have suffered, just because a few people who still have taken over a year to complete this twice feel hard done by isn't reason to warrant trait change system wide. thousands of people have ground this crap to the end of the earth and I'm sure the vast majority would oppose a change based on a few who 1. cba 2. too scrubby to complete it quickly 3. combo of 1&2.

    Yeah I would have liked this....but like a year ago.
    PC Master Race

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    8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
    Master Angler
    Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
    Tamriel Hero
    Grand Overlord
    Every Skyshard
    Down With BOP!
  • rafaelcsmaia
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    Imo there should be an % option like others mmo have, like that: You gather lets say 30 alloys and have 20% chance to change the trait, if it fails, the weapon breaks and you lose all alloys, you keep the grind going but gives an alternate choice for *** traits on dps weapons
  • WalksonGraves
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    So vma is a stupid endĺess grind but since you wasted a lot of your own time this justifies not changing a garbage minigame slot machine?

    Classy.
    Edited by WalksonGraves on May 3, 2017 1:41PM
  • DRXHarbinger
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    Imo there should be an % option like others mmo have, like that: You gather lets say 30 alloys and have 20% chance to change the trait, if it fails, the weapon breaks and you lose all alloys, you keep the grind going but gives an alternate choice for *** traits on dps weapons

    All that does is feed the many survey glitchers that held on to their hoard for a day like this. I have over 4000 of them.
    PC Master Race

    1001CP
    8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
    Master Angler
    Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
    Tamriel Hero
    Grand Overlord
    Every Skyshard
    Down With BOP!
  • psxfloh
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    NecroEnzo wrote: »
    OhAmex wrote: »
    I know it most likely wouldn't happen but what if they could add it but make it cost 1 million gold or more just to change it to what you want.
    I just did vMA 2 times in a row now & I gotten Restoration staff precise & maul infused. & it'd be nice if I could swap infused to sharpened ot defending so it could back bar on my nb.

    Yeah it would be nice to only have to run it two times. Some of us spent 10x weekly for a year. Get back in there and put more effort in.

    So because you suffer, everyone has to suffer, rather than the status quo improving for everyone.

    Nifty.

    yup.. that's the reason why I went back to the woods a couple of months ago and went through everything humanity ever achieved and invented for myself, starting with nothing more than my bare hands! Would be unfair for me to just have everything our ancestors struggled for so hard for the last few millenia..no?
    Only yesterday I developed computers and networks and all.. and here I am! Yay!
  • rafaelcsmaia
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    Imo there should be an % option like others mmo have, like that: You gather lets say 30 alloys and have 20% chance to change the trait, if it fails, the weapon breaks and you lose all alloys, you keep the grind going but gives an alternate choice for *** traits on dps weapons

    All that does is feed the many survey glitchers that held on to their hoard for a day like this. I have over 4000 of them.

    What does it have to do with surveys at all? I dont get your point
  • MCBIZZLE300
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    There should be a token system, 20,30,40 even 50 runs to allow you to purchase the weapon you want would be ok with me.
  • DRXHarbinger
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    Imo there should be an % option like others mmo have, like that: You gather lets say 30 alloys and have 20% chance to change the trait, if it fails, the weapon breaks and you lose all alloys, you keep the grind going but gives an alternate choice for *** traits on dps weapons

    All that does is feed the many survey glitchers that held on to their hoard for a day like this. I have over 4000 of them.

    What does it have to do with surveys at all? I dont get your point

    You say having a feature to feed an item 30 tempering alloys to get a chance at trait change? I have 4000 of them. I'd flood the market and make millions in a week, Trait RNG is the bane of this game. Not the item but the trait. feed it a mechanic like this and it will do nothing but fuel demand for temp alloys.

    If you aren't aware, there was a glitch with the banker last year, you could stash your survey away and still harvest the crafting nodes and then retrieve the survey and repeat over and over and over. We got a 3 day ban but got to keep all our "rewards" At present there is no demand for temp alloys hence the low price of them. Add something to the game (the number 1 most desirable, trait change) that requires these and you'll be seeing 50k temp alloys overnight. Hell even the richest in the game would just buy every single one in the market and quadruple the price.
    PC Master Race

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    8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
    Master Angler
    Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
    Tamriel Hero
    Grand Overlord
    Every Skyshard
    Down With BOP!
  • Fodore
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    Yes good idea, but you have to research not just the trait you want to change it to but the actual skill of changing something to another trait for every trait, make this take like 20 days
    Before judging a man walk a mile in his shoes.
    After that who cares?
    They're a mile away and you've got their shoes.
  • rafaelcsmaia
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    Imo there should be an % option like others mmo have, like that: You gather lets say 30 alloys and have 20% chance to change the trait, if it fails, the weapon breaks and you lose all alloys, you keep the grind going but gives an alternate choice for *** traits on dps weapons

    All that does is feed the many survey glitchers that held on to their hoard for a day like this. I have over 4000 of them.

    What does it have to do with surveys at all? I dont get your point

    You say having a feature to feed an item 30 tempering alloys to get a chance at trait change? I have 4000 of them. I'd flood the market and make millions in a week, Trait RNG is the bane of this game. Not the item but the trait. feed it a mechanic like this and it will do nothing but fuel demand for temp alloys.

    If you aren't aware, there was a glitch with the banker last year, you could stash your survey away and still harvest the crafting nodes and then retrieve the survey and repeat over and over and over. We got a 3 day ban but got to keep all our "rewards" At present there is no demand for temp alloys hence the low price of them. Add something to the game (the number 1 most desirable, trait change) that requires these and you'll be seeing 50k temp alloys overnight. Hell even the richest in the game would just buy every single one in the market and quadruple the price.

    My suggestion was regarding BOP weapons and *** from trials that are the real issue regarding grind vs right traits, not that anyone care about the RNG of BOE items since you can buy em, also the rich ppl can already dismantle the market by buying everything and lowering supply, i dont see why trait changing and basically wasting 80% of their alloys would be a market crash
    Edited by rafaelcsmaia on May 3, 2017 2:03PM
  • Ladislao
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    mcb123 wrote: »
    There should be a token system, 20,30,40 even 50 runs to allow you to purchase the weapon you want would be ok with me.

    What about 500 runs? No RNG, just 500 runs and get your weapon :)
    I'm sure even in this case people will continue to make similar discussions. This is not a solution.
    Everything is viable
  • DRXHarbinger
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    Imo there should be an % option like others mmo have, like that: You gather lets say 30 alloys and have 20% chance to change the trait, if it fails, the weapon breaks and you lose all alloys, you keep the grind going but gives an alternate choice for *** traits on dps weapons

    All that does is feed the many survey glitchers that held on to their hoard for a day like this. I have over 4000 of them.

    What does it have to do with surveys at all? I dont get your point

    You say having a feature to feed an item 30 tempering alloys to get a chance at trait change? I have 4000 of them. I'd flood the market and make millions in a week, Trait RNG is the bane of this game. Not the item but the trait. feed it a mechanic like this and it will do nothing but fuel demand for temp alloys.

    If you aren't aware, there was a glitch with the banker last year, you could stash your survey away and still harvest the crafting nodes and then retrieve the survey and repeat over and over and over. We got a 3 day ban but got to keep all our "rewards" At present there is no demand for temp alloys hence the low price of them. Add something to the game (the number 1 most desirable, trait change) that requires these and you'll be seeing 50k temp alloys overnight. Hell even the richest in the game would just buy every single one in the market and quadruple the price.

    My suggestion was regarding BOP weapons and *** from trials that are the real issue regarding grind vs right traits, not that anyone care about the RNG of BOE items since you can buy em, also the rich ppl can already dismantle the market by buying everything and lowering demand, i dont see why trait changing and basically wasting 80% of their alloys would be a market crash

    Because not everyone has stacks and stacks of them. You may well do, so do I, but some people don't actively farm them and would have to buy them, increasing demand of anything leads to price increases naturally, Big demand ( in this case frikin huge demand) X Low supply = Massive price increases.

    Look at how Wax prices changed the day Burning Spell Weave landed. Took months to drop off. And how do you think gold mats would do if you can change trait with them? prices would go full spazzo.
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    8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
    Master Angler
    Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
    Tamriel Hero
    Grand Overlord
    Every Skyshard
    Down With BOP!
  • rafaelcsmaia
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    Imo there should be an % option like others mmo have, like that: You gather lets say 30 alloys and have 20% chance to change the trait, if it fails, the weapon breaks and you lose all alloys, you keep the grind going but gives an alternate choice for *** traits on dps weapons

    All that does is feed the many survey glitchers that held on to their hoard for a day like this. I have over 4000 of them.

    What does it have to do with surveys at all? I dont get your point

    You say having a feature to feed an item 30 tempering alloys to get a chance at trait change? I have 4000 of them. I'd flood the market and make millions in a week, Trait RNG is the bane of this game. Not the item but the trait. feed it a mechanic like this and it will do nothing but fuel demand for temp alloys.

    If you aren't aware, there was a glitch with the banker last year, you could stash your survey away and still harvest the crafting nodes and then retrieve the survey and repeat over and over and over. We got a 3 day ban but got to keep all our "rewards" At present there is no demand for temp alloys hence the low price of them. Add something to the game (the number 1 most desirable, trait change) that requires these and you'll be seeing 50k temp alloys overnight. Hell even the richest in the game would just buy every single one in the market and quadruple the price.

    My suggestion was regarding BOP weapons and *** from trials that are the real issue regarding grind vs right traits, not that anyone care about the RNG of BOE items since you can buy em, also the rich ppl can already dismantle the market by buying everything and lowering demand, i dont see why trait changing and basically wasting 80% of their alloys would be a market crash

    Because not everyone has stacks and stacks of them. You may well do, so do I, but some people don't actively farm them and would have to buy them, increasing demand of anything leads to price increases naturally, Big demand ( in this case frikin huge demand) X Low supply = Massive price increases.

    Look at how Wax prices changed the day Burning Spell Weave landed. Took months to drop off. And how do you think gold mats would do if you can change trait with them? prices would go full spazzo.

    Well already happens with every new set released or meta change, taking my example into account and lets say, sharpened necro inferno, around 350k, if you have to burn 150 rosins (considering 20% success chance) to turn a *** one into a sharpened one, with rosin costing around 4k, that would cost ya much more than the actual value of buying one, that would only make sense if necro was bop, hence why i think this solution wouldnt affect the market at all, ppel wouldnt bother to change boe items
  • DRXHarbinger
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    Imo there should be an % option like others mmo have, like that: You gather lets say 30 alloys and have 20% chance to change the trait, if it fails, the weapon breaks and you lose all alloys, you keep the grind going but gives an alternate choice for *** traits on dps weapons

    All that does is feed the many survey glitchers that held on to their hoard for a day like this. I have over 4000 of them.

    What does it have to do with surveys at all? I dont get your point

    You say having a feature to feed an item 30 tempering alloys to get a chance at trait change? I have 4000 of them. I'd flood the market and make millions in a week, Trait RNG is the bane of this game. Not the item but the trait. feed it a mechanic like this and it will do nothing but fuel demand for temp alloys.

    If you aren't aware, there was a glitch with the banker last year, you could stash your survey away and still harvest the crafting nodes and then retrieve the survey and repeat over and over and over. We got a 3 day ban but got to keep all our "rewards" At present there is no demand for temp alloys hence the low price of them. Add something to the game (the number 1 most desirable, trait change) that requires these and you'll be seeing 50k temp alloys overnight. Hell even the richest in the game would just buy every single one in the market and quadruple the price.

    My suggestion was regarding BOP weapons and *** from trials that are the real issue regarding grind vs right traits, not that anyone care about the RNG of BOE items since you can buy em, also the rich ppl can already dismantle the market by buying everything and lowering demand, i dont see why trait changing and basically wasting 80% of their alloys would be a market crash

    Because not everyone has stacks and stacks of them. You may well do, so do I, but some people don't actively farm them and would have to buy them, increasing demand of anything leads to price increases naturally, Big demand ( in this case frikin huge demand) X Low supply = Massive price increases.

    Look at how Wax prices changed the day Burning Spell Weave landed. Took months to drop off. And how do you think gold mats would do if you can change trait with them? prices would go full spazzo.

    Well already happens with every new set released or meta change, taking my example into account and lets say, sharpened necro inferno, around 350k, if you have to burn 150 rosins (considering 20% success chance) to turn a *** one into a sharpened one, with rosin costing around 4k, that would cost ya much more than the actual value of buying one, that would only make sense if necro was bop, hence why i think this solution wouldnt affect the market at all, ppel wouldnt bother to change boe items

    No they wouldn't bother with BOE items, it'd be a waste. But if you've ever gone to farm a Sharp Moondancer inferno or lit staff or a BSW Inferno you'd pay any price over farming them. It'd be quicker to go and farm 1M gold and spunk it all on 1k rosins to make it sharpened and me the seller knows this, and anyone with half a brain left after farming COA1 over and over knows it'd be worth going for gold rather than the item so all it does is push prices right through the roof.

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    Master Angler
    Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
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  • NecroEnzo
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    NecroEnzo wrote: »
    OhAmex wrote: »
    I know it most likely wouldn't happen but what if they could add it but make it cost 1 million gold or more just to change it to what you want.
    I just did vMA 2 times in a row now & I gotten Restoration staff precise & maul infused. & it'd be nice if I could swap infused to sharpened ot defending so it could back bar on my nb.

    Yeah it would be nice to only have to run it two times. Some of us spent 10x weekly for a year. Get back in there and put more effort in.

    So because you suffer, everyone has to suffer, rather than the status quo improving for everyone.

    Nifty.

    99% of us have suffered, just because a few people who still have taken over a year to complete this twice feel hard done by isn't reason to warrant trait change system wide. thousands of people have ground this crap to the end of the earth and I'm sure the vast majority would oppose a change based on a few who 1. cba 2. too scrubby to complete it quickly 3. combo of 1&2.

    Yeah I would have liked this....but like a year ago.

    Yeah, you would have liked it a year ago, but since that didn't happen, being spiteful is justified.

    Nifty.
  • xeNNNNN
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    NecroEnzo has a point to be honest.

    Yeah okay I can understand how people would be salty about it and such but honestly VMA traits are not about effort its about luck. There are people one individual I actually know who got 3 sharpened weapons in 3 runs. Then stopped completely.

    Honestly, why make everyone else suffer because you couldnt get what you wanted after spending so long in there? wouldnt this feature benefit you as well at some point if sharpened becomes redundant which it probably will at some point when they decide to do another trait overhaul.

    Really moaning about this kind of feature is just daft.
    Ah, e-communities - the "pinnacle" of the internet............yeah, right.
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