DPS needed for each class needed for vMoL

Nelson_Rebel · May 2017

As the title implies

-Each class wether stam or magic what is actually possible?

**Clarification**

DPS needed as in Per second example 34k on dps test

Sheva I 7 I · May 2017

2 healers
2 tank
2 dks
4 sorcs
2 templars

Ch4mpTW · May 2017

Sheva I 7 I wrote: »

2 healers
2 tank
2 dks
4 sorcs
2 templars

That's pretty much what the group composition consisted of when I farmed VMoL. Although when the changes were made to Sorcerer pets, a MagPlar was replaced for another Sorcerer. Thus resulting in higher damage output, and more consistent runs. But, I don't know if the change will work for every grouping of people.

Tryxus · May 2017

Usual vMoL run:

2 DK Tanks
2 Temp Healers
6 Mag Sorc DPS
2 Mag DK DPS

Sheva I 7 I · May 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Sheva I 7 I wrote: »

2 healers
2 tank
2 dks
4 sorcs
2 templars

That's pretty much what the group composition consisted of when I farmed VMoL. Although when the changes were made to Sorcerer pets, a MagPlar was replaced for another Sorcerer. Thus resulting in higher damage output, and more consistent runs. But, I don't know if the change will work for every grouping of people.

idk about now tbh, maw been broken for too long

Nelson_Rebel · May 2017

I edited to clarify

What I was asking was the DPS needed as in amount of damage per second per person

Nelson_Rebel · May 2017

As in actul damage

DanaDark · May 2017

Infinity. Each. Even the tanks.

dpencil1 · May 2017

For completion, the only thing that would stop a group would be wiping because of boss mechanics or enrage timers. You could have all dps doing 15k dps and still complete, just would take a long time.

For leaderboard scores, more like 35k+. The higher the better.

Vaoh · May 2017

If you can put out like 35K DPS on a Target Skeleton (with Ele Drain or Puncture), you'll probably be fine in vMoL. It's certainly on the low end, but in general Maw of Lorkhaj is very mechanics-based. The DPS test portions of it, meaning the 1st and 2nd boss, are only tough if the team freaks out and doesn't follow mechanics.

Should you want to complete vMoL HM or have a good score run though you'll want to pull 40K-45K DPS on that Target Skeleton.

Nelson_Rebel · May 2017

Vaoh wrote: »

If you can put out like 35K DPS on a Target Skeleton (with Ele Drain or Puncture), you'll probably be fine in vMoL. It's certainly on the low end, but in general Maw of Lorkhaj is very mechanics-based. The DPS test portions of it, meaning the 1st and 2nd boss, are only tough if the team freaks out and doesn't follow mechanics.

Should you want to complete vMoL HM or have a good score run though you'll want to pull 40K-45K DPS on that Target Skeleton.

I only want group completions

I don't care about score I want to know ACTUAL dps limitations

lolo_01b16_ESO · May 2017

On our first clear one year ago, we had ~180k group dps at last boss, which translates to around 25k for each dd. If you want an easy run where you can skip mechanics, you should aim for 240k+ group dps so 30-35k for each dd.
I guess you can also complete it with slightly lower dps than we had in our first kill, but from my experience, it's currently easier to find players with 30k+ dps than finding players who can survive a 10min last boss fight with all it's mechanics.

idk · May 2017

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

As the title implies

-Each class wether stam or magic what is actually possible?

**Clarification**

DPS needed as in Per second example 34k on dps test

34k DPS on test dummy is fine for vMoL. Very much enough, as long as they follow mechanics since some fights on person can wipe kill the half the group with one mistake.

2 tanks, really can be any class. While Most use DKs as tanks for added chains All classes have tanked it.

4 ranged DPS and any class is fine.

4 melee DPS, but ranged can stand in melee and do just as good. It helps to have a minimum of 1 DK dps for chains on the dark boss in the twin fights. The tank on the light boss can taunt the white adds since they are melee.

Of course 2 healers and Templars are currently preferred.

There are groups that pulled less in the actual boss fights than you are saying on a test dummy and they clear.

ViciousBunnii · May 2017

Vaoh wrote: »

If you can put out like 35K DPS on a Target Skeleton (with Ele Drain or Puncture), you'll probably be fine in vMoL. It's certainly on the low end, but in general Maw of Lorkhaj is very mechanics-based. The DPS test portions of it, meaning the 1st and 2nd boss, are only tough if the team freaks out and doesn't follow mechanics.

Should you want to complete vMoL HM or have a good score run though you'll want to pull 40K-45K DPS on that Target Skeleton.

These numbers make me want to QQ. I finally pulled 22k the other day. Of course I don't have every single thing I need, but I do have most of it. I am hoping when I get to 600cp, it will help my dps, but I feel I should be pulling way more than that right now anyways.

Kammakazi · May 2017

Standard:

2 DK Tanks
2 Templar Healers
2 Mag DK
2 Mag Templar
4 Mag Sorc

Advanced:

2 DK Tanks
2 Templar Healers
2 Mag DK
1 Mag Templar
5 Mag Sorc

OP:

2 DK Tanks
2 Templar Healers
1 Mag DK
7 mag Sorc

Tiitus · May 2017

Kammakazi wrote: »

Standard:
2 DK Tanks

2 Templar Healers

2 Mag DK

2 Mag Templar

4 Mag Sorc

Advanced:
2 DK Tanks

2 Templar Healers

2 Mag DK

1 Mag Templar

5 Mag Sorc

OP:
2 DK Tanks

2 Templar Healers

1 Mag DK

7 mag Sorc

i like how NB dont even exist on this list even for standard.... shows how bad of a position we are in, when we are not even considered as a option.

Vaoh · May 2017

Nelson_Rebel wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

If you can put out like 35K DPS on a Target Skeleton (with Ele Drain or Puncture), you'll probably be fine in vMoL. It's certainly on the low end, but in general Maw of Lorkhaj is very mechanics-based. The DPS test portions of it, meaning the 1st and 2nd boss, are only tough if the team freaks out and doesn't follow mechanics.

Should you want to complete vMoL HM or have a good score run though you'll want to pull 40K-45K DPS on that Target Skeleton.

I only want group completions

I don't care about score I want to know ACTUAL dps limitations

To complete.... well there's only one way. Your group needs to L2P, and I don't say it negatively. There is no way to complete vMoL without following mechanics thoroughly.

I say 30-35K DPS if you really need a number.

Vaoh · May 2017

kissesandbunnies wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

If you can put out like 35K DPS on a Target Skeleton (with Ele Drain or Puncture), you'll probably be fine in vMoL. It's certainly on the low end, but in general Maw of Lorkhaj is very mechanics-based. The DPS test portions of it, meaning the 1st and 2nd boss, are only tough if the team freaks out and doesn't follow mechanics.

Should you want to complete vMoL HM or have a good score run though you'll want to pull 40K-45K DPS on that Target Skeleton.

These numbers make me want to QQ. I finally pulled 22k the other day. Of course I don't have every single thing I need, but I do have most of it. I am hoping when I get to 600cp, it will help my dps, but I feel I should be pulling way more than that right now anyways.

You'll get a lot more damage from CPs.

No worries - gather the gear, grind the xp, and practise the rotations. You'll get there quick

ViciousBunnii · May 2017

Vaoh wrote: »

kissesandbunnies wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

If you can put out like 35K DPS on a Target Skeleton (with Ele Drain or Puncture), you'll probably be fine in vMoL. It's certainly on the low end, but in general Maw of Lorkhaj is very mechanics-based. The DPS test portions of it, meaning the 1st and 2nd boss, are only tough if the team freaks out and doesn't follow mechanics.

Should you want to complete vMoL HM or have a good score run though you'll want to pull 40K-45K DPS on that Target Skeleton.

These numbers make me want to QQ. I finally pulled 22k the other day. Of course I don't have every single thing I need, but I do have most of it. I am hoping when I get to 600cp, it will help my dps, but I feel I should be pulling way more than that right now anyways.

You'll get a lot more damage from CPs.

No worries - gather the gear, grind the xp, and practise the rotations. You'll get there quick

Thank you.

That makes me feel a little better haha.

Sovaso · May 2017

Earth, Wind and Fire

KingJ · May 2017

Tiitus wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Standard:
2 DK Tanks

2 Templar Healers

2 Mag DK

2 Mag Templar

4 Mag Sorc

Advanced:
2 DK Tanks

2 Templar Healers

2 Mag DK

1 Mag Templar

5 Mag Sorc

OP:
2 DK Tanks

2 Templar Healers

1 Mag DK

7 mag Sorc

i like how NB dont even exist on this list even for standard.... shows how bad of a position we are in, when we are not even considered as a option.

Lmao I was thinking the same thing but hey in my group I get to be that one magplar.

Sheva I 7 I · May 2017

Vaoh wrote: »

If you can put out like 35K DPS on a Target Skeleton (with Ele Drain or Puncture), you'll probably be fine in vMoL. It's certainly on the low end, but in general Maw of Lorkhaj is very mechanics-based. The DPS test portions of it, meaning the 1st and 2nd boss, are only tough if the team freaks out and doesn't follow mechanics.

Should you want to complete vMoL HM or have a good score run though you'll want to pull 40K-45K DPS on that Target Skeleton.

hm vet maw doesn't really require unbuffed 40-45k dps, thats if you want to nuke him on 5th stage or so.

IronCrystal · May 2017

Vaoh wrote: »

If you can put out like 35K DPS on a Target Skeleton (with Ele Drain or Puncture), you'll probably be fine in vMoL. It's certainly on the low end, but in general Maw of Lorkhaj is very mechanics-based. The DPS test portions of it, meaning the 1st and 2nd boss, are only tough if the team freaks out and doesn't follow mechanics.

Should you want to complete vMoL HM or have a good score run though you'll want to pull 40K-45K DPS on that Target Skeleton.

Did you mean while raid buffed? I don't know anyone who can pull 45k on a target dummy solo.

For hard mode, you need like 45k buffed per person or so to skip lunar phase. Technically you can clear if you keep going through lunar, but that's pretty cancerous.

max_only · May 2017

Tiitus wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Standard:
2 DK Tanks

2 Templar Healers

2 Mag DK

2 Mag Templar

4 Mag Sorc

Advanced:
2 DK Tanks

2 Templar Healers

2 Mag DK

1 Mag Templar

5 Mag Sorc

OP:
2 DK Tanks

2 Templar Healers

1 Mag DK

7 mag Sorc

i like how NB dont even exist on this list even for standard.... shows how bad of a position we are in, when we are not even considered as a option.

THIS

sneakymitchell · May 2017

If u know what ur doing and the group knows their roles.

f047ys3v3n · May 2017

The first completes (years ago) were with groups only averaging 20k or so each with excellent group buffs. This would be about 15k unbuffed on a dummy today. The mechanics can actually be done with this dps though it is very hard and there are many cycles.

This information is not helpful to you though. You need to know what dps you need to do to get a group to take you that actually completes vMoL. That number, on a dps test dummy, would be around 30k these days though I do not know any group who will take a dps test dummy parse as the tryout of vMoL as anybody with a macro that took 10 min to write can do that. For vMoL, groups require you first do a dps test and then do some hard content with guild officers to prove you don't just *** the bed with mechanics.