@ZOS_RichLambert If you want all classes to be able to perform all roles effectively, why do we have class specific skills? If you really want that, dissolve the classes all together and make all current class skills available to everyone. Also, why did you dust off Warden from alpha and introduce it with yet another class specific healing line? Furthermore, why make Templars, or any class for that matter, worse at doing specific things? You could buff the under performing skills/classes instead. For example, instead of making rushed ceremony directional, why not make blessing of protection like breath of life currently is?
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lunalitetempler wrote: »@ZOS_RichLambert If you want all classes to be able to perform all roles effectively, why do we have class specific skills? If you really want that, dissolve the classes all together and make all current class skills available to everyone. Also, why did you dust off Warden from alpha and introduce it with yet another class specific healing line? Furthermore, why make Templars, or any class for that matter, worse at doing specific things? You could buff the under performing skills/classes instead. For example, instead of making rushed ceremony directional, why not make blessing of protection like breath of life currently is?
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If you din't watch the ESO live, watch it or watch it again. Its explained in plain English.
Although I for one would like one character to have all classes in one, great idea.
lunalitetempler wrote: »@ZOS_RichLambert If you want all classes to be able to perform all roles effectively, why do we have class specific skills? If you really want that, dissolve the classes all together and make all current class skills available to everyone. Also, why did you dust off Warden from alpha and introduce it with yet another class specific healing line? Furthermore, why make Templars, or any class for that matter, worse at doing specific things? You could buff the under performing skills/classes instead. For example, instead of making rushed ceremony directional, why not make blessing of protection like breath of life currently is?
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If you din't watch the ESO live, watch it or watch it again. Its explained in plain English.
Although I for one would like one character to have all classes in one, great idea.
They stated very specifically in ESO Live yesterday that they didn't want us to feel like we had to bring a Templar for group content because it has such unique abilities and that is why they applied the changes they did to Spear Shards. I'm questioning them because I want them to be logically consistent. If they truly want their game to be that way then why do they keep presenting class specific skills lines that contradict their intended vision for the game?
lunalitetempler wrote: »@ZOS_RichLambert If you want all classes to be able to perform all roles effectively, why do we have class specific skills? If you really want that, dissolve the classes all together and make all current class skills available to everyone. Also, why did you dust off Warden from alpha and introduce it with yet another class specific healing line? Furthermore, why make Templars, or any class for that matter, worse at doing specific things? You could buff the under performing skills/classes instead. For example, instead of making rushed ceremony directional, why not make blessing of protection like breath of life currently is?
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If you din't watch the ESO live, watch it or watch it again. Its explained in plain English.
Although I for one would like one character to have all classes in one, great idea.
They stated very specifically in ESO Live yesterday that they didn't want us to feel like we had to bring a Templar for group content because it has such unique abilities and that is why they applied the changes they did to Spear Shards. I'm questioning them because I want them to be logically consistent. If they truly want their game to be that way then why do they keep presenting class specific skills lines that contradict their intended vision for the game?
But they want us to feel we have to bring a warden right? because they have to sell their crap class and crap expac right?
warden is *** and takes skills from other classes it has no right to. in beta we were allready pissed there was not a dedicated stam class and now they *** some more on classes and skills to make a buck (they think).
lunalitetempler wrote: »@ZOS_RichLambert If you want all classes to be able to perform all roles effectively, why do we have class specific skills? If you really want that, dissolve the classes all together and make all current class skills available to everyone. Also, why did you dust off Warden from alpha and introduce it with yet another class specific healing line? Furthermore, why make Templars, or any class for that matter, worse at doing specific things? You could buff the under performing skills/classes instead. For example, instead of making rushed ceremony directional, why not make blessing of protection like breath of life currently is?
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If you din't watch the ESO live, watch it or watch it again. Its explained in plain English.
Although I for one would like one character to have all classes in one, great idea.
They stated very specifically in ESO Live yesterday that they didn't want us to feel like we had to bring a Templar for group content because it has such unique abilities and that is why they applied the changes they did to Spear Shards. I'm questioning them because I want them to be logically consistent. If they truly want their game to be that way then why do they keep presenting class specific skills lines that contradict their intended vision for the game?
Lord_Dexter wrote: »All classes should never fit all role,
This is just killing gameplay variety!
There are four slots in group dungeons, with a 5th class someone had to go.
If the goal is any class should be able to heal as well as a templar then why can't a templar do other roles as well as another class? There doesn't seem to be this rush to make them better tanks or dps so why go after their healing role? So far, they've just nerfed their healing role but left them subpar in the others. Have I missed where they tank as well as a dragonknight or damage as well as a sorcerer. And nightblades, what happen there?
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notimetocare wrote: »The logic in here... Effectively and homogeneous is not the same...
I've said that since beta... just get rid of classes. Make all abilities available to everyone. Solves ALL balance issues and allows for endless amounts of diversity.
ComboBreaker88 wrote: »
Not necessarily. Not everyone is into min-maxing. Not even the majority of people are.
However, allowing more freedom (even an illusion of freedom) is always a harder design choice. And to have all skill lines available to everyone, the devs must face unpredictable outcomes everyday. In a MMO you do want to avoid most of the extreme outcomes (in single player games it does not matter a player can one-shot the end game boss, though).
So the most reasonable choice is to limit players in some fashion, reducing the design difficulty. Well, and they can justify it by thinking "MMO players love to have classes (and a dumbed down RPG system)."
Narvuntien wrote: »If you just keep buffing everything you get power creep and then the game just becomes trival. That is a bad place to be.
everybody... gets nerfed.... sometimess.
I've said that since beta... just get rid of classes. Make all abilities available to everyone. Solves ALL balance issues and allows for endless amounts of diversity.
Not true, it would cause all stam dps to be one thing, all magicka dps to be one thing, all healers to be one thing, and maybe a few kinds of tanks. Balance would be there, but diversity would go out the window. People will find the best spec for each setup (stam, mag, and healing), and instead of 8 different dps specs, one for each focus on each class, we would have 2 dps specs.
@ZOS_RichLambert If you want all classes to be able to perform all roles effectively, why do we have class specific skills? If you really want that, dissolve the classes all together(which I'm not advocating) and make all current class skills available to everyone. Also, why did you dust off Warden from alpha and introduce it with yet another class specific healing line? Furthermore, why make Templars, or any class for that matter, worse at doing specific things? You could buff the under performing skills/classes instead. For example, instead of making rushed ceremony directional, why not make blessing of protection like breath of life currently is?
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