What About Stamblades?

max_only · April 2017

What *about* stamblades?

What about magblades?

What about saptanks?

Nightblades get the worst treatment around here I'm wondering what Zos believes is our strength? Pvp Ganking right? So keep the new patch changes that reduce ganking, but to remove our sustain skill....... why?

We need siphoning attacks to remain the same.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · April 2017

KingJ wrote: »

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

IMO stamblades needs 2 things, a working cloak and a source of minor mending.

So you want your stam night blade to have the same healing capacity as a templar in the next update with minor mending? Is this a joke?

@D0ntevenL1ft Actually templars would still have better healing thanks to (Mending: This passive ability now increases the healing done by Restoring Light abilities by 6/12% based on the target’s missing health, up from 5/10%.)

So templar will have better healing than dk and nb even if they gave nb access to major mending.The new issue will be that Nb have better healing then DK since DK major mending buff would be no existent after a light attack.

This is a joke, that extra 2% healing is nothing, it only works on in class heals and the only 2 heals used 95% of the time are breath, which is a burst heal anyways, meaning that it would if heal you to full anyways and extended ritual/ritual of retribution, a hot that ticks every two seconds, you will not notice an 2% heal on it.

RANKK7 · April 2017

What about Stamplars?

zuto40 · April 2017

KingJ wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

revert the changes and buff stamblade, otherwise, hello mag sorc here i come

@zuto40 I thought you was quitting?

i cant resist destroing a few wardens before i quit, but as it is right now, i am after morrowind drops

RavenSworn · April 2017

I'm wondering if those that actually says all the shenanigans about Stam blade are actually in the pts to try out the class.

KingJ · April 2017

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

IMO stamblades needs 2 things, a working cloak and a source of minor mending.

So you want your stam night blade to have the same healing capacity as a templar in the next update with minor mending? Is this a joke?

@D0ntevenL1ft Actually templars would still have better healing thanks to (Mending: This passive ability now increases the healing done by Restoring Light abilities by 6/12% based on the target’s missing health, up from 5/10%.)

So templar will have better healing than dk and nb even if they gave nb access to major mending.The new issue will be that Nb have better healing then DK since DK major mending buff would be no existent after a light attack.

This is a joke, that extra 2% healing is nothing, it only works on in class heals and the only 2 heals used 95% of the time are breath, which is a burst heal anyways, meaning that it would if heal you to full anyways and extended ritual/ritual of retribution, a hot that ticks every two seconds, you will not notice an 2% heal on it.

That's not the point you will still have better healing than a Nb and a better heal which is breath.A Nb will not have access to the same amount of healing as magplar or a stamplar for example a stamplar rune gives thing minor vitality as well which stacks with mending.

zuto40 wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

revert the changes and buff stamblade, otherwise, hello mag sorc here i come

@zuto40 I thought you was quitting?

i cant resist destroing a few wardens before i quit, but as it is right now, i am after morrowind drops

zuto40 wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

revert the changes and buff stamblade, otherwise, hello mag sorc here i come

@zuto40 I thought you was quitting?

i can't resist destroying a few wardens before i quit, but as it is right now, i am after morrowind drops

I see what you mean I'm still undecided it depends on what's announced for this summer.If the games I'm hearing about really coming to Xbox I'm saying goodbye to this game.

RavenSworn wrote: »

I'm wondering if those that actually says all the shenanigans about Stam blade are actually in the pts to try out the class.

I have tried Stamnb on PTS but I mainly play xbox so I don't have access to everything I would on xbox for example I can't use the new drink with bone pirate or craft certain sets.The siphoning change is a big blow and our overall damage in pve has been lowered.The Heal suck it can't crit, can be defiled plus cut in health by battlespirit it's a waste of a slot now.Plus I heard racials are broken so I can't test how different races perform.

Araviel2 · April 2017

Stamblades will benefit allot from the new "master of arms" champion points next update, possible more than other classes.
and the sustain nerf i think they should be able to handle better than most since they are a burst class.
only real nerf is the stealth bonus removal, but that only affects pvp. and can be compensated for whit master of arms champion points. only now there is a direct counter for it that is Ironclad.

olsborg wrote: »

IMO stamblades needs 2 things, a working cloak and a source of minor mending.

slot 3 siphoning skills and you get the same effect as minor mending (oh yes i know magica skills, but really people don't have to run 2 dps bars to be effective, one can be a pure buff bar as well. )

KingJ wrote: »

That's not the point you will still have better healing than a Nb and a better heal which is breath.A Nb will not have access to the same amount of healing as magplar or a stamplar for example a stamplar rune gives thing minor vitality as well which stacks with mending

NB's have access to minor vitality as well in form of Swallow Soul.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · April 2017

KingJ wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

IMO stamblades needs 2 things, a working cloak and a source of minor mending.

So you want your stam night blade to have the same healing capacity as a templar in the next update with minor mending? Is this a joke?

@D0ntevenL1ft Actually templars would still have better healing thanks to (Mending: This passive ability now increases the healing done by Restoring Light abilities by 6/12% based on the target’s missing health, up from 5/10%.)

So templar will have better healing than dk and nb even if they gave nb access to major mending.The new issue will be that Nb have better healing then DK since DK major mending buff would be no existent after a light attack.

This is a joke, that extra 2% healing is nothing, it only works on in class heals and the only 2 heals used 95% of the time are breath, which is a burst heal anyways, meaning that it would if heal you to full anyways and extended ritual/ritual of retribution, a hot that ticks every two seconds, you will not notice an 2% heal on it.

That's not the point you will still have better healing than a Nb and a better heal which is breath.A Nb will not have access to the same amount of healing as magplar or a stamplar for example a stamplar rune gives thing minor vitality as well which stacks with mending.

zuto40 wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

revert the changes and buff stamblade, otherwise, hello mag sorc here i come

@zuto40 I thought you was quitting?

i cant resist destroing a few wardens before i quit, but as it is right now, i am after morrowind drops

zuto40 wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

revert the changes and buff stamblade, otherwise, hello mag sorc here i come

@zuto40 I thought you was quitting?

i can't resist destroying a few wardens before i quit, but as it is right now, i am after morrowind drops

I see what you mean I'm still undecided it depends on what's announced for this summer.If the games I'm hearing about really coming to Xbox I'm saying goodbye to this game.

RavenSworn wrote: »

I'm wondering if those that actually says all the shenanigans about Stam blade are actually in the pts to try out the class.

I have tried Stamnb on PTS but I mainly play xbox so I don't have access to everything I would on xbox for example I can't use the new drink with bone pirate or craft certain sets.The siphoning change is a big blow and our overall damage in pve has been lowered.The Heal suck it can't crit, can be defiled plus cut in health by battlespirit it's a waste of a slot now.Plus I heard racials are broken so I can't test how different races perform.

Are you really complaining about a class that has a skill line that has 4 heals in it, heals better then one that doesn't?

Are we talking magic or stam NB too, cause a MNB can use healing ward, it is a better heal then breath and a stamblade has the exact same healing options as a stamplar but with only up to 16% difference. Not going to set the world on fire with only 16% more healing. Stamblades have in class access to 8% more damage, that is easy to maintain and gives a amazing burst damage ability, for free, where is the stamplars version of that?

Or hey, instead of making every class the exact same, we have some variety in the system, hold about that man?

SilverWF · April 2017

Merancapeman wrote: »

mortally wounded classes such as the Magblade

The only mortally wounded will be Templar healers. Everything else is manageable.
Anyway, magSorc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all in the PvE

KingJ · April 2017

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

IMO stamblades needs 2 things, a working cloak and a source of minor mending.

So you want your stam night blade to have the same healing capacity as a templar in the next update with minor mending? Is this a joke?

@D0ntevenL1ft Actually templars would still have better healing thanks to (Mending: This passive ability now increases the healing done by Restoring Light abilities by 6/12% based on the target’s missing health, up from 5/10%.)

So templar will have better healing than dk and nb even if they gave nb access to major mending.The new issue will be that Nb have better healing then DK since DK major mending buff would be no existent after a light attack.

This is a joke, that extra 2% healing is nothing, it only works on in class heals and the only 2 heals used 95% of the time are breath, which is a burst heal anyways, meaning that it would if heal you to full anyways and extended ritual/ritual of retribution, a hot that ticks every two seconds, you will not notice an 2% heal on it.

That's not the point you will still have better healing than a Nb and a better heal which is breath.A Nb will not have access to the same amount of healing as magplar or a stamplar for example a stamplar rune gives thing minor vitality as well which stacks with mending.

zuto40 wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

revert the changes and buff stamblade, otherwise, hello mag sorc here i come

@zuto40 I thought you was quitting?

i cant resist destroing a few wardens before i quit, but as it is right now, i am after morrowind drops

zuto40 wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

revert the changes and buff stamblade, otherwise, hello mag sorc here i come

@zuto40 I thought you was quitting?

i can't resist destroying a few wardens before i quit, but as it is right now, i am after morrowind drops

I see what you mean I'm still undecided it depends on what's announced for this summer.If the games I'm hearing about really coming to Xbox I'm saying goodbye to this game.

RavenSworn wrote: »

I'm wondering if those that actually says all the shenanigans about Stam blade are actually in the pts to try out the class.

I have tried Stamnb on PTS but I mainly play xbox so I don't have access to everything I would on xbox for example I can't use the new drink with bone pirate or craft certain sets.The siphoning change is a big blow and our overall damage in pve has been lowered.The Heal suck it can't crit, can be defiled plus cut in health by battlespirit it's a waste of a slot now.Plus I heard racials are broken so I can't test how different races perform.

Are you really complaining about a class that has a skill line that has 4 heals in it, heals better than one that doesn't?

Are we talking magic or stam NB too, cause a MNB can use healing ward, it is a better heal then breath and a stamblade has the exact same healing options as a stamplar but with only up to 16% difference. Not going to set the world on fire with only 16% more healing. Stamblades have in class access to 8% more damage, that is easy to maintain and gives a amazing burst damage ability, for free, where is the stamplars version of that?

Or hey, instead of making every class the exact same, we have some variety in the system, hold about that man?

What are you talking about?Where was I complaining about templars heals?I all I said was templars have better healing even if Nb had access to minor mending and that BOL is the best heal in the game.

Healing ward in no way a better Heal then breath.One your guranteed to get a breath heal if someone near you have lower health they will get the heal not you.Healing ward is best used near death for a bigger heal and ward but its not instant it HOT kinda. While a stamplar have the same healing options as a stamblade that 16% is a huge boost in pvp combined with cp. Let's talk about that free damage ability that needs 4 light attacks to proc in a certain time limit that free damage can also be dodged or block and a short time frame.Stamplar version of that is POTL which hits harder than relentless and provides a armor debuff and its undodgeable. Just so you know not alot of Nb use relentless shades are the better option for kitting,trap beast for minor force or siphoning attacks.

Shardaxx · April 2017

The changes suck for my stamblade, namely a) loss of stealth attack damage bonus b) run out of stamina more often c) increased cost of vigor (which feeds into b).

Overall I'm going to be using more stamina to do less damage. Not impressed.

Sakiri · April 2017

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

RIP nightblades I do hope they get some love or a rework soon.

Using mine to farm CP.

alexkdd99 · April 2017

bottleofsyrup wrote: »

Wrobel doesn't play a stamblade so don't expect anything to happen.

That has been said about all the classes at some point or another.

Merancapeman · April 2017

alexkdd99 wrote: »

bottleofsyrup wrote: »

Wrobel doesn't play a stamblade so don't expect anything to happen.

That has been said about all the classes at some point or another.

Well, apparently everyone plays magsorc, and I don't see anything happening to them all that much except for a nick here or there with Lucille the Nerf Bat. Only Zeni is worse than walking dead, and is killing off everyone except the ones they like most.

FlyLionel · April 2017

Sakiri wrote: »

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

RIP nightblades I do hope they get some love or a rework soon.

Using mine to farm CP.

Ayeee slot soul harvest on front bar get that ult up super fast, I see you. NB cp grind swagger unleashed. I know you be selling those skyreach runs family...at least we can do vet pledges just fine.

lonewolf26 · April 2017

From my testing on PTS stamblade is RIP