[Help] Mantikora popcorn - what am I missing?

pizzaow · April 2017

If it targets someone next to me, I can move out of the 2nd and 3rd "pops". However, if it targets me I ALWAYS die... I can survive the first "pop", but it seems like if you get hit with 1, there is no way to avoid getting hit with 2 & 3 (and #2 always means death). By the time I recognize it underneath me, it seems like I don't have time to dodge roll.

I'm sure I'm missing something... From what I can tell the mantikora will pound its chest just before the popcorn starts. Is this like the warrior's shield throw where we have to dodge roll when we see this? Is there a way to see who the mantikora is targeting (and just they need to dodge roll)? Should the non-spear team stack, spread or something else? Any advice you can share would be very appreciated.

Our group usually makes it through, but it involves dozens of deaths and is super messy.

On a related side note, does the avoidance strategy differ for the tank?

s7732425ub17_ESO · April 2017

You roll dodge the first popcorn and then just keep sprinting away from the boss. The popcorns will spawn but since you are sprinting away, you will be out of their radius long before they pop.

Alternatively, if you are melee, and are a badass, you can roll dodge all three.

OrphanHelgen · April 2017

It's very hard to spot before it actually pops, unless you have done that boss 100 times. Most melees see where the popcorn is gonna land, and don't bother moving or dodging unless it lands on themself. I think one tactic is to sprint or roll dodge backwards away from group, and on the 3rd popcorn, you rolldodge forward back on the boss again. It's like half a year since I was in sanctum, so I don't really remember. Must be other ways as well.

Integral1900 · April 2017

That stupid thing is one of the most unbalanced things in the whole zone, craglorn is a mess at the moment with supper squishy stuff on one hand and godlike power on the other, it's not as if the mobs even line up with the type of dungeon. There are four player ones even a pillock like me can solo and then there are things like that! A beastie that one shotted a 40000 health tank with maxed resistances...

The whole zone should have been made public dungeon style and be done with it, not this clumsy half way house with most of the main plot your supposed to be able to solo running through 4 player dungeons....

Confused cat is so confused

darthsithis · April 2017

Butter. Needs more fake movie theater butter and you'll slip out of the aoe

darthsithis · April 2017

Srsly tho I strafe left right (dps wiggle) and as SOON as I see that aoe form I roll dodge at the end of my current wiggle. 100% escape if you use tristat (I'm a magsorc) Stan will always be fine

darthsithis · April 2017

Just don't roll into your healers lol.

paulsimonps · April 2017

I cringe when people call it popcorn.........

But yea if you get hit by the first QUAKE, it will kill you, cause the 2nd and third QUAKE will then also hit you, no escaping it once caught. If you roll dodge the first QUAKE then sprint you can avoid them all, its a waste of stamina to roll dodge them all, just run away from 2nd and 3rd QUAKE.

Liofa · April 2017

Quick tip > You can roll dodge inside of it . You won't fly or get damage .

Oreyn_Bearclaw · April 2017

Integral1900 wrote: »

That stupid thing is one of the most unbalanced things in the whole zone, craglorn is a mess at the moment with supper squishy stuff on one hand and godlike power on the other, it's not as if the mobs even line up with the type of dungeon. There are four player ones even a pillock like me can solo and then there are things like that! A beastie that one shotted a 40000 health tank with maxed resistances...

The whole zone should have been made public dungeon style and be done with it, not this clumsy half way house with most of the main plot your supposed to be able to solo running through 4 player dungeons....

Confused cat is so confused

You are confused? I am not even sure what I just read... Are you suggesting that a 12 man trial should be balanced like a public dungeon?

OP, the popcorn is a classic spread mechanic (a mechanic that penalizes a group standing on top of each other). I good raid leader should call out when it's going to happen, everyone spreads a bit, and if the popcorn is under you, you back away from the boss for the first two (roll dodge if you have the stamina), and then toward the boss on the third one.

pizzaow · April 2017

paulsimonps wrote: »

I cringe when people call it popcorn.........

Sorry man, you'd have a cringe-fest on XBOX NA; I've never heard it called anything else. Also, the warrior's shield throw is often called "captain america"

Thanks for all the great advice everyone! It seems like I just need to get better at identifying when it's about to happen and get ready to dodge roll, then sprint away.

darthsithis · April 2017

You can drink an immovability pot maybe lol. But just roll for immunity u don't even have to make it out of the circle

Oreyn_Bearclaw · April 2017

pizzaow wrote: »

paulsimonps wrote: »

I cringe when people call it popcorn.........

Sorry man, you'd have a cringe-fest on XBOX NA; I've never heard it called anything else. Also, the warrior's shield throw is often called "captain america"

Thanks for all the great advice everyone! It seems like I just need to get better at identifying when it's about to happen and get ready to dodge roll, then sprint away.

Don't worry, @paulsimonps gets a cringe fest in his own guild. It's POPCORN, Paul, deal with it. haha!

Tkap420 · April 2017

If you have clear enough comms there is a crystal type sound that goes off before popcorn...at that point dodge roll back once continue stepping backwards to miss the second then dodge roll toward the boss to miss the last one...the boss also does a harness magic type animation with his arm if your coma aren't clear enough to hear the crystal type sound.