its fine makes PVP funnier when a cap player gets whooped by cp 400

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PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

Why do people expect that "high" CP players have done all the content? That's just stupid.

Especially if you avoid that content because you find it annoying or know that despite your efforts, this is never going to work unless you get lucky with group finder.

But he knows a dolmen or two for sure.

Eh, someone could get to 600 cp without the double. I didn't get too much use out of the cake XP on my "main" (I mostly did daily writs on lots of alts, and leveled a templar alt a bit), and I've got ~260cp so far. And I haven't done a single dungeon.

(Heck, that main is only halfway through Cadwell's Silver & has only done Wrothgar & Hew's Bane for DLC. Clearing the rest of the overland content seems like it would easily get her close to 600.)

What? For all you know he could be a pure PvP-er or rp-er or solo player who just finally decided to give dungeons a go, being 600 cp has zero relation to having done content <x> before. That's like assuming I've done fishing in this game because I'm 600 cp. Nope, and not planning to either. Now the sensible thing of him would be to say it's his first time there and a sensible thing of you (given he apparentloy didn't say it) would be to ask just in case and try help him with mechanics. Now if he were underperforming badly, ignoring instructions and refusing to close portals, that's another story.

I don't mind players of any amount cp doing a dungeon for the first time, but there has been an amazing influx of absolutely clueless high cp players lately, that much is true. It's not double xp/grinding as much to blame though, yes they get there faster now but even if they got there slower they'd still know nothing. Why? Because there's nothing in this game to even hint to them that their build is ineffective outside of vet dungeons, vet trials and vMA. NOTHING. Well maybe WB but these are usually getting zerged anyway. So it's absolutely possible that the painful death at the hands of Planar is first time in all their players' life that they get any hint that alternating bow attacks with crystal frags hardcast is actually not an effective way to dps. Which is awful, but it is what it is. No learning curve, at all, anywhere. And don't mention normal dungeons, 4 people can pretty much do whatever there and they'll still complete it, assuming they had any damage skills at all.

Double XP just meant s/he got to CP 600 quicker. S/he would have always been a bad player, so do not blame the DXP but rather the game for not giving a single damn about teaching people how to play properly.

I am over champ level 400. I don't pay close attention to it since it doesn't affect my gameplay, but I think I'm around champ level 430 or so. I don't even know what "WGT" is. My champ points have come almost exclusively from PvE, solo questing.

WhiteMage wrote: »

Once upon a time, though, high CP was a pretty good indicator that you knew what you were doing. Personally, I like to assume max CP players know what they are doing, or have sense enough to figure it out.

Once upon a time, v16(cp 300 ) = elite. Now, cp 600 could be a shxt.

VinyParsley2016 wrote: »

Just ran WGT with a CP600 DPS. I didn't ask if he has done WGT or not cuz I trust his CP, until we found he didn't know kill the portals. Now, CP600 could be a noob. That's why I said many time, double xp ruin the game.

You're first mistake was thinking that CP levels = good or even decent players, double XP isn't to blame here

Rainwhisper wrote: »

I am over champ level 400. I don't pay close attention to it since it doesn't affect my gameplay, but I think I'm around champ level 430 or so. I don't even know what "WGT" is. My champ points have come almost exclusively from PvE, solo questing.

WGT = White Gold Tower, dungeon

We run it with tank + 3 dps or healer + 3 dps and have even run it with 4 dps bypassing 99% of the mechanics in all cases