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I never succeeded to pass vMA, what are the chances I will be able to do it when Morrowind kicks in?
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darthsithis✭✭✭Half of these guys are nuts, run 1 lich clothing 1 kena and 5 scathing mage clothing with thee lich jewelry. Lich lightning staff for 5 piece when and resto staff of lich for extra heavy attack regen then voila sustain and damage after patch.
50 Thaumaturge points, 50 elemental, 50 staff expert, elfborn rest.
Green tree do the one that gives back resources for heavy attacks and the choose something cool like break free or roll dodge reduction cost.
Lightning: inner light, wall of elements, ward, scamp, daedric prey. Lightning ulti, and heavy attack while pet and curse are up.
Resto or destro. U choose. For resto execute, liquid lightning, healing ward, surge, scamp
Destro switch hw for boundless storm or inner light. BARRIER ulti and passives in support for 20% magicka regenMessage me if you want to do trials/dungeons, or need a trading guild! Flawless conqueror magsorc with a bad sense of armor fashion.1 -
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✭VMA is just about determination and freetime, minimal research on Google can give complete walkthough, craft the gear, learn the mechanics, bang head on wall until you get it done, then do it 100+ more times until you get the weapon you want.
Sadly, the vast majority of players can't be bothered to put that much effort into anything.2 -
Pancake-Tragedy✭✭✭✭✭ScooberSteve wrote: »Im sorry is sharpened lightning staff hard to get? Got it on my 4th run
Naw, RNGeebus just hates me. I have 3 nirnhoned (fire/lightning/resto) and about 6 defending axes. I did get a sharpened 2h maul recently, so maybe I should revive my old 2h stamsorc spec.Edited by Pancake-Tragedy on April 22, 2017 12:24PMPancake Tragedy - Sorcerer0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »ScooberSteve wrote: »Im sorry is sharpened lightning staff hard to get? Got it on my 4th run
Naw, RNGeebus just hates me. I have 3 nirnhoned (fire/lightning/resto) and about 6 defending axes. I did get a sharpened 2h maul recently, so maybe I should revive my old 2h stamsorc spec.
Likewise. I've done hundreds of VMA runs, and I still have no sharpened or precise inferno or lightning staffs. And yet, I have multiples of every stamina weapon in the sharpened trait. Axes, bows, daggers, 2H's, etc.2 -
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✭✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »To be honest with you, OP...? Slim to none. Although, anything is possible. And, I would not let that drive you away from taking a shot at it. Always shoot for the moon. That way if you miss, you're still amongst the stars.
That's a load of crap. Sustain changes? Sure. vMA isn't about sustain, its about doing damage so that mobs don't have time to kill you.
@IzakiBrotherSs What? VMA isn't about sustain? What? WTF? Umm... How did you arrive to that bold claim? How is it not about sustaining? You have to sustain in order to do any type of damage, as well as block/dodge. If you have no resources, you can't do damage. If you can't do damage, things don't die. If things don't die, then you will eventually die. I don't know if you make that claim, because you're running Stam in VMA or something. As with Stam builds in VMA, you pretty much don't have to worry too much (if using Vicious). But to say that you don't have to worry about sustain? What? Are you using some cheeky heavy attack build?
My favorite VMA build lately has been magika templar, absorb magika, moderate (not high) sustain (1200ish), and Bahraha's/ Leeching. I stand still, or even soak my way through a CC and the heals just pour in (was Godlike before the proc nerf, obviously). Sweeps here and there as needed, but mostly focus on heavy attack > ability combos. Keep in mind this is 5/1/1 heavy, too. Works like a charm, and the chance of insta-kill is minimal to none. Also stacked spellpower, though in Morrowind, I'll swap one glyph to regen and make up the difference in the new CP passive (and better CP spread all around).
The guy you were replying too is right, too, in that if you nuke things fast enough, regen/ reduction isn't such an issue. I've done builds like that before as well, and they should remain viable in MW.2 -
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✭✭darthsithis wrote: »Half of these guys are nuts, run 1 lich clothing 1 kena and 5 scathing mage clothing with thee lich jewelry. Lich lightning staff for 5 piece when and resto staff of lich for extra heavy attack regen then voila sustain and damage after patch.
50 Thaumaturge points, 50 elemental, 50 staff expert, elfborn rest.
Green tree do the one that gives back resources for heavy attacks and the choose something cool like break free or roll dodge reduction cost.
Lightning: inner light, wall of elements, ward, scamp, daedric prey. Lightning ulti, and heavy attack while pet and curse are up.
Resto or destro. U choose. For resto execute, liquid lightning, healing ward, surge, scamp
Destro switch hw for boundless storm or inner light. BARRIER ulti and passives in support for 20% magicka regen
Bravo. Add vamp to the mix, too.0 -
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✭Day two now, still can't get through stage 5 ice round final boss, the struggle is real..Pc na1 -
POps75p✭✭✭✭Kneighbors wrote: »I was actually waiting for vMA to be nerfed or rewards system changed.
Instead of that I got all of my characters nerfed.
I understand they did it for the elite players who make vMA flawless runs 10 out of 10, but what it got to do with me? Does it actually means I will never be able to pass vMA if I'm not ready to invest tens or even hundreds of hours in it?
I tried vma 100's of times for months at a time until I finally completed it. than I did it another 40 plus times. one thing 4 sure is that my playing skills and reflexes are poor at best, it all about remembering the pattern (was tough for me to finally learn it myself. other than those facts, i'll turn 77 in may, so i'm slow and old. all I can say is that if you can beat it your either lazy, or of those kids that always got a medal for just playing (my son say's they are some sort of Mellianials (not sure of spelling)
just quit and play call of duty, anyone can kill people in that game
enjoy
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Pancake-Tragedy✭✭✭✭✭Day two now, still can't get through stage 5 ice round final boss, the struggle is real..
Pace your DPS, the boss breaks islands at set HP points. Kill the troll as soon as it spawns to avoid running out of islands. The chillbane mages hurt, focus them ASAP as well. Don't be afraid to pop the sigils either. Defending if you are getting overwhelmed with adds, or haste if you need resources/need to gtfo.Pancake Tragedy - Sorcerer1 -
Wolfenbelle✭✭✭✭✭The percent of players doing it flawless 10 out of ten.. trust me, is not very high, and of course that is not a justification for the nerfs, all the nerfs come from very different reasons other than vMA.
One reason only...PVP and the constant complaining about "balance." All balance means is nobody wants anyone else to be stronger than they are in PVP. Paraphrasing what @ZOS_GinaBruno said, ZOS is committed 100% to not separating PVP and PVE "balancing." This is a mistake of gigantic proportions because — as many have tried to tell ZOS — they are two very different things with different play styles, different strategies, different gear requirements, etc.
Every time ZOS goes into one of their massive "rebalancing" fits, they use the nerf hammer hard and PVE players get screwed.
People whined and complained about having to level from 50 to v16, so ZOS came up with the CP system. Did anyone back then listen to those of us who said getting rid of v16 was a mistake? No! Now people are saying the CP system is a mistake and they want ZOS to remove it. Instead, ZOS reworks the heck out of it to try to cure two old problems: balancing and the ability of newer players to catch up. So who gets punished the hardest? Those of us who have been in the game since the original beta or pre-launch, but who don't PVP much, if at all.
This is the second time I have reworked my main character. Got her the best gear I could manage to obtain. Got it all yellow. Tested it and was in the middle of tweaking the build when ZOS made it all worthless. When is enough going to be enough? When is ZOS going to decide on a system, then leave it alone except to do small, incremental tweaks? When are they going to stop totally uprooting the game once or twice a year?
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darthsithis✭✭✭Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »ScooberSteve wrote: »Im sorry is sharpened lightning staff hard to get? Got it on my 4th run
Naw, RNGeebus just hates me. I have 3 nirnhoned (fire/lightning/resto) and about 6 defending axes. I did get a sharpened 2h maul recently, so maybe I should revive my old 2h stamsorc spec.
Likewise. I've done hundreds of VMA runs, and I still have no sharpened or precise inferno or lightning staffs. And yet, I have multiples of every stamina weapon in the sharpened trait. Axes, bows, daggers, 2H's, etc.
No sharpened staff, but it's overrated! Sharpened infal front bar and nirnhoned back works fine.
Also fyi if your off hand is nirn and your main is sharp, attacks are benefiting only from sharpened, but you still get weapon damage buff from nirn in offhand- great for torugs and Same applies to back bar. Drop liquid lightning and wall of elements then switch to sharpened- you are now doing sharpened damage on a skill that dropped with more spell damage.
Correct me if wrong lolMessage me if you want to do trials/dungeons, or need a trading guild! Flawless conqueror magsorc with a bad sense of armor fashion.0 -
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Oh thank you SO much my friend. You're a great help!
I'm Breton Templar cp600. Gear I used was 5 light julianos, 1 heavy 1 med valkyn. Dw swords torug, 1 inferno. 3willpower jewels.
What should I use to stun or interrupt the troll? Toppling charge? Or destro destructive reach?
I'm thinking if it's my race's problem or my skills? Not sure if I should change to high elf race for more dps.
I have 1200 mag regen, 2700 spell dmg, 48% crit unbuffed.
42000 mag, 18500 hp, 10000 stam.
Front bar has sweeps, reflective light, breath of life, inner light, harness magicka, shooting star.
Back bar blockade of fire, toppling charge.Edited by akl77 on April 22, 2017 1:11PMPc na1 -
darthsithis✭✭✭Also got my highest score and 2 flawless runs with purple charged maelstrom lightning, training legs, prosperous chest, impen waist and divine gloves with a blue ring and all purple clothing.
You can do it just mechanics mechanics and stay cool. I'll send you money or potions if u need and are on Xbox.
Stay cool, use ward before neried, and kill ads before you dps boss to break the ice again.Message me if you want to do trials/dungeons, or need a trading guild! Flawless conqueror magsorc with a bad sense of armor fashion.2 -
darthsithis✭✭✭Or nuke all at once on last platform. Grab shield and axe dump ulti ignore adds. Works greatMessage me if you want to do trials/dungeons, or need a trading guild! Flawless conqueror magsorc with a bad sense of armor fashion.0
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✭✭✭✭If you haven't been able to do it yet, with all due respect, I don't think it has to do with the nerfs or anything but you.0 -
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Oh thank you SO much my friend. You're a great help!
I'm Breton Templar cp600. Gear I used was 5 light julianos, 1 heavy 1 med valkyn. Dw swords torug, 1 inferno. 3willpower jewels.
What should I use to stun the troll? Toppling charge? Or destro destructive reach?
I'm thinking if it's my race's problem or my skills? Not sure if I should change to high elf race for more dps.
I have 1200 mag regen, 2700 spell dmg, 48% crit unbuffed.
42000 mag, 18500 hp, 10000 stam.
Front bar has sweeps, reflective light, breath of life, inner light, harness magicka, shooting star.
Back bar blockade of fire, toppling charge.
@akl77 You don't even have to stun the troll. But, I'll do it now for you. Give me a few minutes, and I'll post-up a video of me doing it. I'll be sure to show my gear as well, and CP and all that stuff. Brb bruh.
Edit: I just realized that you're a Breton MagPlar as well. So hopefully things will click a bit more somehow. Lol.Edited by Ch4mpTW on April 22, 2017 1:05PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭I just gave my first legit try to VMA yesterday. I got to level 4 with none of the sigils in my PVP build.
That 4th boss is no fan of vampires. Haha.
Maybe I should unequip rapid manuevers next time?0 -
pattyLtd✭✭✭✭✭It will be harder perhaps even impossible but i doubt they will stick with these changes for long.
Anyways OP its not important if you beat it or not.
If you dont feel like going through the pain of learning it (whích is very understandable) then why bother?English is not my native language, no grammar police please, tyvm2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭To anyone who's struggling on particular stages, I'll do it and post videos for you guys here in this thread. Or I'll PM you a video of it. Your choice. Just tell me your class and variation (e.g. Magicka or Stamina), and I'll get on it. I'm not doing crap else today, except for playing Doom and Titanfall later. Lol.2 -
Meld777✭✭✭✭✭WalksonGraves wrote: »Only people with sharp VMA staves will be able to complete VMA.
Took me over 600 runs and a year of weekly rewards to get my Sharpened Inferno. And yes, it does make a huge difference. I'm never stepping foot in vMA ever again.Maelstrom Arena Champion | Undaunted | Fighters Guild Victor
Level 50 Magicka NB | CP160+
nAA | vCoH1 HM | nSO | nCoA2 | nDSA | nMA | vVoM
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akl77✭✭✭✭✭
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@Ch4mpTW
Oh thank you SO much my friend. You're a great help!
I'm Breton Templar cp600. Gear I used was 5 light julianos, 1 heavy 1 med valkyn. Dw swords torug, 1 inferno. 3willpower jewels.
What should I use to stun the troll? Toppling charge? Or destro destructive reach?
I'm thinking if it's my race's problem or my skills? Not sure if I should change to high elf race for more dps.
I have 1200 mag regen, 2700 spell dmg, 48% crit unbuffed.
42000 mag, 18500 hp, 10000 stam.
Front bar has sweeps, reflective light, breath of life, inner light, harness magicka, shooting star.
Back bar blockade of fire, toppling charge.
@akl77 You don't even have to stun the troll. But, I'll do it now for you. Give me a few minutes, and I'll post-up a video of me doing it. I'll be sure to show my gear as well, and CP and all that stuff. Brb bruh.
Edit: I just realized that you're a Breton MagPlar as well. So hopefully things will click a bit more somehow. Lol.
Thanks so much! Take your time, it's my bed time now, might catch you in the morning.
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✭I'm fully geared out for it as a Stam Sorc, but I reaaaaally cannot be bothered with the rage and head banging to get past stage 2. Dont care enough about weapon. *** it.
Edit: out of curiousity, what minimum hp would you go into it with as a first timer? I.e: someone who's going to need a bigger margin of error...Edited by Bobby_V_Rockit on April 22, 2017 1:20PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭To anyone who's struggling on particular stages, I'll do it and post videos for you guys here in this thread. Or I'll PM you a video of it. Your choice. Just tell me your class and variation (e.g. Magicka or Stamina), and I'll get on it. I'm not doing crap else today, except for playing Doom and Titanfall later. Lol.
Actually my only question was how much do those sigils help you and hurt your score?
Side note: been playing since beta and after checking my achievements I found out that I've done a grand total of 19 vet dungeons. I guess I spend way too much time in Cyrodiil. Haha.Edited by THEDKEXPERIENCE on April 22, 2017 1:17PM0 -
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✭WalksonGraves wrote: »Only people with sharp VMA staves will be able to complete VMA.
Took me over 600 runs and a year of weekly rewards to get my Sharpened Inferno. And yes, it does make a huge difference. I'm never stepping foot in vMA ever again.
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darthsithis✭✭✭Sigils cost 250 each use.
You don't need sharp vma staff to beat vma, u need tripots and gold weapons of whatever set.
And as a sorc, 16k minimum if you know how to ward. Pets wil leave you at 18k with the passives in that tree. Do one medium one heavy and undaunted passive for more.Message me if you want to do trials/dungeons, or need a trading guild! Flawless conqueror magsorc with a bad sense of armor fashion.2
