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Go kicked out of my guild teamspeak for not getting a beta invite

  • AzraelKrieg
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    Cadbury wrote: »
    Pallmor wrote: »
    You'll be better off without them.

    I've been in that guild since 2014. They're my friends. Now they're scared ZOS is going to pull their ESO accounts if they even mention the beta around me.

    Well, it's not like you're gonna blab about what you hear to zone chat and make a YT vid called "Yo my peeps are in Morrowind Beta, here's da 411, fam!"

    Right?

    Clearly an overreaction on their part.

    Of course not. Like I said, I'm not even that interested in it. But when I showed up on Teamspeak today, suddenly it was like "Did you get a beta invite?" "uh, no" "Sorry there is an NDA we all had to agree to, sooooo you gotta go..."

    Hell, I didn't even know what an NDA was when they told me.

    The fact they even said they were in the beta means they already violated the NDA.
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  • Majeure
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    I was apparently the only one in my guild who didn't get a beta invite. And because the Beta NDA means they can't talk about the game around me, they decided to kick me out.

    Thanks a lot, ZOS. I have been in that guild since 2014. Now they're treating me like a leper because you just HAD to make it a closed beta instead of an open one like usual.


    I'd leave the guild then and there.
  • phairdon
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    Cadbury wrote: »
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    Pallmor wrote: »
    Not ZOS's fault. Sounds like crappy humans to me. But they should have created a new channel instead of kicking you out

    It's ZOS's fault for making it a closed beta instead of an open one and imposing an NDA. Now those of us who didn't get an invite are now persona non grata, even in our own guilds.

    I'd find a new guild. They sound like jerks TBH.

    Maybe his guild was one of the top guilds in ESO. With a 6 month waiting list.

    People wait 6 months to join a guild? Really?

    Noooo don't be silly.





    8 months, actually. We're very exclusive.

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  • teladoy
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    This post is pure gold.

    Be a man, let your friends play alone, the closed beta is for a short time and then you will be able to play with your friends again.
  • Sakiri
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    Wait, resubmit application?

    Lol.

    Get new friends. Seriously.
  • Pallmor
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    I'd be happy if ZOS would just let me sign the NDA myself so my friends could talk to me again. I don't even care about downloading the pts or playing it. All the details about it have already come out already anyway. Not even sure why they made it a closed beta.
  • Runs
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    They couldn't have just made a new room in TS and had you excluded in permissions? Or changed your permissions and everyone else for guild chat so they could talk about it in Officer but you couldn't see/participate.
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  • Rhoric
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    Seriously. ZOS is not gonna know what guildies talk about within their guild.
  • LadyDestiny
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    Sakiri wrote: »
    Wait, resubmit application?

    Lol.

    Get new friends. Seriously.

    I know right? Like joining an "exclusive" guild in eso is anything like applying for a major corporation or getting a part in the next star wars film. I lol'd so hard at this. Some people take this game and Zos way too seriously. If my so called "friends" treated me that way, they would not be my friends.
  • kijima
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    Wow...

    I can understand your frustration, but you said you've been playing with that guild since 2014 yeah? Surely you've been around long enough to understand NDA's in game yes?

    Being kicked out of teamspeak because your guildies are talking about something that they agreed to re: NDA (and this is just a guess) was probably in fear, just in case they thought that whole guild would get canned by ZOS for breaking the NDA. (personally, I know the guilds I'm in would just move to another channel if they were deep in discussion, or to be frank would keep talking)

    Regardless, whether it's a d1ck move or not, they aren't shunning you in guild, they are giving you a kick from a teamspeak channel to talk turkey.

    Personally, I think your better off without them, plenty of decent guilds out there with decent humans. My problem is not having enough guild slots to accommodate all the cool people I play/talk with.
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  • FleetwoodSmack
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    Sakiri wrote: »
    Wait, resubmit application?

    Lol.

    Get new friends. Seriously.

    This. If they can't be bothered to make a channel, I wouldn't be bothered with them. Doesn't matter how long you've been in there. Friends don't treat friends like dirt (I'd say something else, but I also signed a ToS).
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  • WildWilbur
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    Pallmor I am sorry that we had to kick you, but you must understand we are not allowed to tell anyone about what we experience on the Beta server.

    Once all Beta testing is complete we will re-invite you, but you must also resubmit a guild application.

    Thanks

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  • Turelus
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    I too blame ZOS for people being stupid.

    Maybe your guild should learn how to use TeamSpeak. They know about locked channels and passwords right?
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  • Doctordarkspawn
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    I'ma go ahed and be the devils advocate and say this is ZOS's fault. No reason for a NDA. No reason for this exclusion.
  • TequilaFire
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    Pallmor I am sorry that we had to kick you, but you must understand we are not allowed to tell anyone about what we experience on the Beta server.

    Once all Beta testing is complete we will re-invite you, but you must also resubmit a guild application.

    Thanks

    Why didn't you guys create a separate private voice channel and or separate guild rank with different privileges for members that didn't get an invite then?
    Makes no sense as how could you have been sure everyone in your guild would get an invite?
    You had the tools you should of used them.
  • yashualaydin
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    They are ***. Not blame ZOS.

    Think about it.
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  • Coilbox
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    You'll be better off without them.

    I've been in that guild since 2014. They're my friends. Now they're scared ZOS is going to pull their ESO accounts if they even mention the beta around me.

    No they were not your friends. If they treated you like that they were anything else but far from being friends.

    Also, its not ZOS fault, they could have managed it differently, like some people suggested, like creating a closed room on TS or anything. Im sorry you was treated like that tho'
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  • Turelus
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    I'ma go ahed and be the devils advocate and say this is ZOS's fault. No reason for a NDA. No reason for this exclusion.
    Maybe they wanted a selection of people who would test and give good feedback rather than the mass rage and tears we currently see on the forums?
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  • clocksstoppe
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    Looks like you dodged a bullet there buddy.
  • lunalitetempler
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    They obviously don't want to get their account banned, its probably nothing personal.
  • Turelus
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    They obviously don't want to get their account banned, its probably nothing personal.
    They could make a separate channel and just talk in there. I mean they already broke NDA by telling him they were in beta as a reason for kicking him. :tongue:
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  • Cadbury
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    They obviously don't want to get their account banned, its probably nothing personal.

    Plot twist: it actually was personal :o
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  • Lord_Eomer
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    I was apparently the only one in my guild who didn't get a beta invite. And because the Beta NDA means they can't talk about the game around me, they decided to kick me out.

    Thanks a lot, ZOS. I have been in that guild since 2014. Now they're treating me like a leper because you just HAD to make it a closed beta instead of an open one like usual.


    Dam! that much seriously taken by your guild?

    Why not start your own one!
  • Violynne
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    ...was probably in fear, just in case they thought that whole guild would get canned by ZOS for breaking the NDA.
    The guild wouldn't get canned, but those players within it who are discussing the beta can have their invites revoked.

    The NDA is specific, stating any discussion outside of the beta is in violation.

    Since the guild wasn't invited, then some of its members were.

    If the OP is sincere and can back up the discharge with proof (such as a message), then they should report the guild officers to ZoS.

    One of them booted the OP from the guild, so they must be an officer or owner of the guild. ZoS can then work the issue from there.
  • michaelarryn
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    I was apparently the only one in my guild who didn't get a beta invite. And because the Beta NDA means they can't talk about the game around me, they decided to kick me out.

    Thanks a lot, ZOS. I have been in that guild since 2014. Now they're treating me like a leper because you just HAD to make it a closed beta instead of an open one like usual.


    Funniest sh*t I have read all day. Its not ZoS fault. Its your crappy guildmates. Don't be upset, this was for the better. You will see.
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    Pallmor I am sorry that we had to kick you, but you must understand we are not allowed to tell anyone about what we experience on the Beta server.

    Once all Beta testing is complete we will re-invite you, but you must also resubmit a guild application.

    Thanks

    Why kick him out of the guild? You realise PTS and Live aren't connected. You could create a private TS channel. The NDA doesn't require you to sever all connections to those without it. You guys are acting like you're holding government secrets.

    And resubmit an application because you guys are too stupid to know how to handle NDAs?

    You all are a bunch of morons.
    Edited by Luigi_Vampa on April 20, 2017 12:10PM
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  • Rickter
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    This is ludicrous. Obvious troll is obvious troll. These arent his friends. otherwise he wouldnt have gone on public forums to complain about them.

    The amount of options TS3 provides its users creates absolutely no excuse to this kind of behavior. The obvious solution was to create another "CLOSED BETA TEST CHANNEL" and prohibit access for those without a special tag (also doable with TS3)

    so gtfo, OP.
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  • Eweroun
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    You'll be better off without them.

    I've been in that guild since 2014. They're my friends. Now they're scared ZOS is going to pull their ESO accounts if they even mention the beta around me.

    how would ZOS even know they talk about it when you are in the TS.... tell me...
    not a problem created by ZOS. As mentioned before, it's the behavior of your guild mates
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  • michaelarryn
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    Pallmor I am sorry that we had to kick you, but you must understand we are not allowed to tell anyone about what we experience on the Beta server.

    Once all Beta testing is complete we will re-invite you, but you must also resubmit a guild application.

    Thanks

    Wait he's been in the guild since 2014 and he still has to resubmit a guild application for not being in the guild for 2 months?

    These guys aren't your friends and I'm surprised SausageFest even bothered commenting here. Just another elitist guild that takes themselves too seriously if you ask me. I mean, if you are into that sort of thing I guess stay upset, but not at ZoS.
  • Hallothiel
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    Pallmor wrote: »
    Not ZOS's fault. Sounds like crappy humans to me. But they should have created a new channel instead of kicking you out

    It's ZOS's fault for making it a closed beta instead of an open one and imposing an NDA. Now those of us who didn't get an invite are now persona non grata, even in our own guilds.

    I'd find a new guild. They sound like jerks TBH.

    Maybe his guild was one of the top guilds in ESO. With a 6 month waiting list.

    Hahahaha - wait, is that really a thing?

    Really!?

    Ffs.
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