Alliance Change Option?
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Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
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Strikeout addedOne time per account. Must have any race any alliance unlocked. Have a list of your characters, change each to the faction you want. Click confirm, and confirm again. That's it. Once.
THIS
But one more stipulation. You choose the alliance you want and it converts ALL of your characters to that alliance. Permanently. One time per account. This will prevent the tryhard multi-faction cancer that is ruining PvP.
I really want this option but ONLY if it has the stipulations that @max_only mentioned in addition to mine. I would love to convert my two EP toons to DC as I feel dirty every time I log into them even for PvE writs.Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on April 10, 2017 8:02PM3 -
theher0not✭✭✭✭✭Yes. But to prevent people form abusing it in PvP I think people shouldn't be allowed to enter a cyro campain on the character that has changed faction untill the current ones expire (also the player would not get any rewards from the campain he was in prior to the change).
This would make it so people wouldn't change just to get a better reward.3 -
jcaceresw✭✭✭✭✭I support the idea to change the alliance faction you started on. I chose DC on an alt because long time ago the only way to get loot and the monster collectibles from your starting faction (lets say EP) was to create a toon from another faction (DC) so EP can become the last zone (and get loot from every monster you killed while there). This way you were guaranteed to get the monster collectibles you wanted. Also, when Dwemer motif appeared for the first time, you had better chances being a DC toon farming that Rift dwemer dungeon (I forgot the name).
With OT release, those issues were no more. However, my DC toon could not join the EP PVP guild I was on due to the faction alliance. Take in mind too the amount of gold and time spent on horse and space upgrades, crafting skills maxed, trait researched and the amount of achievements completed. Should I delete it just to start again with the "correct" alliance? Hell no.
So, now you have pretty valid points for people asking for this feature to become a reality. Please @ZOS make it so.
EDIT: The alliance faction should be either: A) a one time option per character. You use the token and you stay with that new faction forever or B ) they can put a cooldown of 30 days on the character that have just changed it alliance faction (a win-win situation since @ZOS can still get money from us while providing us with unlimited alliance changes provided the 30 days cooldown is complete for that character)Edited by jcaceresw on April 10, 2017 8:58PM2 -
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✭To be honest we need to do away with locked alliances completely.
Instead randomly rotate alliances every week account wide.
It would bring back competition in pvp and end the exclusivity of the git guds vs the casuals.
Just about all guilds (especially the leet ones) are already inclusive to all alliances.
Maybe we could give out real rewards after 4 campaigns (1 month) to the top AP and overall winners after 4 rotations.0 -
makreth✭✭✭✭✭With crowns and a cooldown (long enough not to get abused), maybe even get locked out for current campaigns while transfer is done.2 -
Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭I love all the constructive and intelligent thought being put into this thread! Your feedback is the best way to make this game great!
As I see it, this is a "win win" situation for Zenimax and fans, if Zenimax takes all of your comments into consideration and thoughtfully creates this option.
I agree this option would have to be very well thought out. I also think if done right this change will actually improve the current state and morale of PVP and ESO in general.0 -
Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What is the point of this ? People already have different characters for pvp. And the fact that you can simply re-log to different alliance (yes log-off wtih one character and then log-in with different character with different alliance while still in the same campaign) is just hilarious and causes only exploits.
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Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't like the idea of changing alliance. If you want to play in a different alliance, go and create an alt on that alliance.
Otherwise this game will become a game only for min-max races.Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Sheva I 7 I wrote: »Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »No. If you have "no life" then grind up 4 hours to a new pvp toon and get the assault line levelled up in 1 day as well. Titles mean nothing anyway
You may not understand. My characters are maxed out all horse skills, all pvp skills, all undaunted, all fighters guild, all mages guild, all skyshards, etc.
YOU CANNOT RANK UP ALL THESE THINGS IN 4 HOURS. YOUR "PVP TOON" WOULD BE GARBAGE COMPARED TO A COMPLETE CHARACTER.
oh no special snowflake got enraged, someone fast we need to do more dps.
No to the suggestion, would have someone with lots of ap from ganking on red side, quickly swap to yellow and become emperor when they take the last keep.
I don't get why you are mocking him for responding for the absurd claim that people can level up in 4 hours. Whether or not you agree with changing alliances, the claim that you can level a character to parity in 4 hours is nonsense.2 -
Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭I support the idea to change the alliance faction you started on. I chose DC on an alt because long time ago the only way to get loot and the monster collectibles from your starting faction (lets say EP) was to create a toon from another faction (DC) so EP can become the last zone (and get loot from every monster you killed while there). This way you were guaranteed to get the monster collectibles you wanted. Also, when Dwemer motif appeared for the first time, you had better chances being a DC toon farming that Rift dwemer dungeon (I forgot the name).
With OT release, those issues were no more. However, my DC toon could not join the EP PVP guild I was on due to the faction alliance. Take in mind too the amount of gold and time spent on horse and space upgrades, crafting skills maxed, trait researched and the amount of achievements completed. Should I delete it just to start again with the "correct" alliance? Hell no.
So, now you have pretty valid points for people asking for this feature to become a reality. Please @ZOS make it so.
EDIT: The alliance faction should be either: A) a one time option per character. You use the token and you stay with that new faction forever or B ) they can put a cooldown of 30 days on the character that have just changed it alliance faction (a win-win situation since @ZOS can still get money from us while providing us with unlimited alliance changes provided the 30 days cooldown is complete for that character)
The quote above looks great! If everyone continues working on this we could make it happen.
Awesome!
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Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »What is the point of this ? People already have different characters for pvp. And the fact that you can simply re-log to different alliance (yes log-off wtih one character and then log-in with different character with different alliance while still in the same campaign) is just hilarious and causes only exploits.
You should read the entire thread and your comments might be more helpful. Please read it again and you will have no worries.
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leeux✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I would support this, as I also have several characters non-AD that I would convert to AD the instant this option is available, so I can finally get the PvP skills for them.
Though, I agree with the restrictions and caveats that many propose... I don't think this should be easy to do, nor something that you could do more than once.PC/NA - Proud old member of the Antique Ordinatus Populus
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WhitePawPrints✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes. Everyone worried about balance, just charge stacking costs on it. Buy one a year for X amount. Buy another within a year, then charge Y% more. If a third bought within a year, charge Z% more. It'd make ZoS a lot of money by taking money from stupid people who can't roll 2 alts for the other two factions.1 -
Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭"What do you think? Should we be allowed an alliance change?"
Yes I read this and answered. PvP has already problem with re-loggers. Giving a possibility to change character's alliance would only cause more dmg. Already we have huge imbalances in campaigns - one side wining over & over because all good players migrated to one "winning" side.Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »What is the point of this ? People already have different characters for pvp. And the fact that you can simply re-log to different alliance (yes log-off wtih one character and then log-in with different character with different alliance while still in the same campaign) is just hilarious and causes only exploits.
You should read the entire thread and your comments might be more helpful. Please read it again and you will have no worries.
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Wrecking_Blow_Spam✭✭✭✭✭
✭Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »I understand that you have good intentions for this but the potential for abuse in PvP is large. I would prefer that this never be implemented.
Could you tell me your concerns on how this would be abused? PVP is already corrupt, how much worse can it get than purchasing emporship? Guilds that farm their own members for AP as a cheat and a way to drag in victims.. It goes on and on.
Do you know how many Guilds set up "AP farming days"? They announce it and everyone jumps on opposite teams, while all staying in party or guild chat. They then find a resource or castle and have their friends on the other team start siege on the castle or resource. This draws in unknowing players thinking they are in an honest fight. After enough victims arrive the guild has all their destro ults etc ready and they pour out and wipe their guildmates and the legit players too. Rinse and Repeat. Defensive ticks from the pinged resource or castle.
Then the same guild takes turns or charges gold to swap Emporership.
I won't tell you any names, but don't fool yourself into thinking pvp is slightly legit. It is corrupt as the day is long.
Floki
Just curious, are you the same Floki on Xbox EU?
If that's you then you must know that emperorship business at 1st hand. Been emperor hundreds of times on the main pop locked campaign on different characters.Xbox one EU
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QuinValenSoul ShrivenMost of my Guild is cross Alliance...
One suggested solution is to a Guild option that the Guild Master Chooses the base Alliance and can only be change perhaps quarterly for a high cost. Then you can join your Guild Alliance Group and must have that Tabard adorned/enabled to join under that guild group. Just establish a Guild Server and disable Guild/Tabard swapping while in Cyrodiil.
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