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Do Players Not Like Haggling?
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Shad0wfire99✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't haggle. If I ask someone how much they want for whatever they're selling, and they reply with "make an offer," the conversation is over.
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imnotanother✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's not just the Xbox 1 servers. Of course sellers don't like to haggle. It's a waste of energy. Usually on the "streets" the seller already stated their price and most likely it's the lowest s/he will go. The prices are already cheaper than the traders why try to haggle for a lower price?
When I state a price it's already my lowest price I will go. I will not reply back if someone try to haggle. I don't have time for that. And there usually other players already whispering me about the item for the price I asked. I very rarely use zone chat to sell.
Or you could reply with "no thank you"
Communication gets your point across.
Since you "don't have time" you could also reply with "Nty".PS4: NA - AD PSN: imnotanother (Artell Lyeselle)
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Emothic✭✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »I don't haggle. If I ask someone how much they want for whatever they're selling, and they reply with "make an offer," the conversation is over.
What a waste. They put you in a great advantage. If you chose your words right, you can walk away with a huge saving. Hell I've been buying Kuta's, Tempering Alloy, and Dreugh wax anywhere from 1k to 4k cheaper then trader prices. I also bough a bundle of them today that was worth around 100k and got them for only 65k.
Which is strange because usually I don't have as much luck with these kinds of deals most of the time. Must be my lucky day becase I'm scoring deal left and right. I probably saved around 100k - 150k so far in resorce upgrades.Edited by Emothic on April 9, 2017 6:30PMLord Emothic Von Hellsing of ze Hellsing Family.
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✭✭✭✭✭DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »Bartering Bargaining is a lost practice.
Usually greed and laziness are the main reasons.
Not at all. We don't live in a society of small kiosks. Companies list their prices and we search the Internet to find the best price. People are used to take it or leave it pricing.
@DaveMoeDee
As a society we are accustomed to bargaining on prices. The most notable that many of us have encountered is buying and selling cars and homes or negotiating a lease.
Most of what we buy is not worth attempting to bargain on and hence it is customary to not wheel and deal a restaurant bill or the price of bananas at the grocery store.
This is separate to what the OP is saying. The person was willing to sell the items for less, but OP wanted even more. Any negotiator will have a bottom limit and OP wanted more than what would be expected as reasonable.2 -
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✭✭✭imnotanother wrote: »
Ever been to a flea market? A garge/yard sale? Ever been to a non-western country, who have street vendors?DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »Bartering Bargaining is a lost practice.
Usually greed and laziness are the main reasons.
Not at all. We don't live in a society of small kiosks. Companies list their prices and we search the Internet to find the best price. People are used to take it or leave it pricing.
Comparing online retail to selling things as a vendor or shouting on the street are two different things.
I lived in a poor Asian country for a decade. That is irrelevant to the kinds of people that make up the majority of ESO players. MMO players are probably a lot more likely to be buying purchases online than at flea markets.
Add to that the fact that most US groceries are bought in grocery stores where the prices are set. People aren't buying gourds on the street.Edited by DaveMoeDee on April 9, 2017 7:18PM1 -
DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭imnotanother wrote: »It's not just the Xbox 1 servers. Of course sellers don't like to haggle. It's a waste of energy. Usually on the "streets" the seller already stated their price and most likely it's the lowest s/he will go. The prices are already cheaper than the traders why try to haggle for a lower price?
When I state a price it's already my lowest price I will go. I will not reply back if someone try to haggle. I don't have time for that. And there usually other players already whispering me about the item for the price I asked. I very rarely use zone chat to sell.
Or you could reply with "no thank you"
Communication gets your point across.
Since you "don't have time" you could also reply with "Nty".
If he is getting 20 responses, no need to respond to any except the one that won.Maybe a zone message if he is feeling generous.0 -
Shad0wfire99✭✭✭✭✭
✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »I don't haggle. If I ask someone how much they want for whatever they're selling, and they reply with "make an offer," the conversation is over.
What a waste. They put you in a great advantage. If you chose your words right, you can walk away with a huge saving. Hell I've been buying Kuta's, Tempering Alloy, and Dreugh wax anywhere from 1k to 4k cheaper then trader prices. I also bough a bundle of them today that was worth around 100k and got them for only 65k.
Which is strange because usually I don't have as much luck with these kinds of deals most of the time. Must be my lucky day becase I'm scoring deal left and right. I probably saved around 100k - 150k so far in resorce upgrades.
Not a waste to me. My enjoyment of ESO isn't linked to saving a little fake money here and there. I never post anything for sale in chat unless I know what it's worth, or at least what I want in return for it. It's a waste of my time when players post things for sale, and then wanna haggle back and forth over a few thousand gold coin.
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✭DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »
Ever been to a flea market? A garge/yard sale? Ever been to a non-western country, who have street vendors?DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »Bartering Bargaining is a lost practice.
Usually greed and laziness are the main reasons.
Not at all. We don't live in a society of small kiosks. Companies list their prices and we search the Internet to find the best price. People are used to take it or leave it pricing.
Comparing online retail to selling things as a vendor or shouting on the street are two different things.
I lived in a poor Asian country for a decade. That is irrelevant to the kinds of people that make up the majority of ESO players. MMO players are probably a lot more likely to be buying purchases online than at flea markets.
Add to that the fact that most US groceries are bought in grocery stores where the prices are set. People aren't buying gourds on the street.
Well, I buy a large amount of my groceries from a Farmers Market, so don't assume so much.
I also buy things from stores and also from markets(trade shows, garage/yard sales, flea markets, art shows, etc). All of those places you bargain the deals.
Also, you keep comparing retail consumerism to ESO. Trading kiosk are consignment shops, not stores, hence why there are several price listings for the same items, within the same trader, let alone that market.
You can't really say that we don't bargain as a society when I just gave you 5 examples of daily bargaining an other members have given examples of purchasing vehicles and homes. Transactions that happen daily.
Sometimes, you will be right...except when you are wrong.PS4: NA - AD PSN: imnotanother (Artell Lyeselle)
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Artis✭✭✭✭✭
✭I notice that some of you have said that Haggling/Bargining is a lost "art". And by reading these comments I can tell that it has. Someone said that people have become use to the "take it or leave it" pricing that we have now in real life as an economy. Though in many cases bargining can still be used today even in a "Western World". Car Dealerships are a good place for such interactions. For example: I bought a 2016 Nissian Ultima of which is worth $28,865 at the time. They nocked it down to $24,000 because the dealership was having a sale to make room for the newer 2017 vehicles. Now even though they reduced the price by $4,865. I told them that I will pay $22,000 in cash at that very moment and drive off the lot the same day. After a minutes of bargining/haggling. We agreed to $22,700. That's and additonal $1,300 I saved. And I did it by haggling.
Now yes this is something you can't do for corperate stores and such as that. But if you know the right place and time you can save alot of money. Or in this case save alot of gold coin. Who know's how much coin players are losing out in profits and savings if they attempted to bargin a little bit. In most cases a haggle will only take 1 - 3 minutes. And that 1 - 3 minutes could save you or profit you a few hundred to a few thousand coins depending on what the item(s) are.
Oh how I hate that. I was looking for a car and at this one dealership the guy would keep decreasing the price and went like twice as low as he initially said. My reaction in the end was "Oh so that's what you're ready to sell it for now, but in the beginning you wanted to screw me over? And maybe you can go even less if I'm good enough at haggling? F U". Hate the process, hate knowing that maybe somebody else paid less for the same thing. Or could pay less if he was in my place.
Edited by Artis on April 9, 2017 7:33PM4 -
Sheva I 7 I✭✭✭✭I only haggle on items when price is 75k+
I am not spending my time sending messages back and forward over 500-1k gold1 -
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✭✭✭imnotanother wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »
Ever been to a flea market? A garge/yard sale? Ever been to a non-western country, who have street vendors?DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »Bartering Bargaining is a lost practice.
Usually greed and laziness are the main reasons.
Not at all. We don't live in a society of small kiosks. Companies list their prices and we search the Internet to find the best price. People are used to take it or leave it pricing.
Comparing online retail to selling things as a vendor or shouting on the street are two different things.
I lived in a poor Asian country for a decade. That is irrelevant to the kinds of people that make up the majority of ESO players. MMO players are probably a lot more likely to be buying purchases online than at flea markets.
Add to that the fact that most US groceries are bought in grocery stores where the prices are set. People aren't buying gourds on the street.
Well, I buy a large amount of my groceries from a Farmers Market, so don't assume so much.
I also buy things from stores and also from markets(trade shows, garage/yard sales, flea markets, art shows, etc). All of those places you bargain the deals.
Also, you keep comparing retail consumerism to ESO. Trading kiosk are consignment shops, not stores, hence why there are several price listings for the same items, within the same trader, let alone that market.
You can't really say that we don't bargain as a society when I just gave you 5 examples of daily bargaining an other members have given examples of purchasing vehicles and homes. Transactions that happen daily.
Sometimes, you will be right...except when you are wrong.
Your farmer's market anecdote is nice, but that is not how many Americans (assuming most people on the server are that) buy things. Home and car are not regular activities. They are infrequent events.
People really don't haggle much in the US. That is why people find it so novel in other cultures. This is not a new insight about Americans.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭imnotanother wrote: »
Well, I buy a large amount of my groceries from a Farmers Market, so don't assume so much.
My mother buys stuff from farmers' markets in the summer. I've gone with her a couple times... and everything has a set price, just like in the grocery store. Maybe it's a regional difference. Or a rural vs urban thing. /shrugI also buy things from stores and also from markets(trade shows, garage/yard sales, flea markets, art shows, etc). All of those places you bargain the deals.
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You can't really say that we don't bargain as a society when I just gave you 5 examples of daily bargaining
Hmm. Again, maybe it's a world-view/personality/whatever difference. Even in just choosing to go to those places.... I think I've been to one flea market/garage sale in the last decade (and that was only because it was two houses down, run by a friend). I suppose that people who enjoy the whole "bargaining" thing go to those things more often, while those of us who have no interest in it just don't. Total cultural difference - the world you interact with is not the one I do.
(And the only "trade shows" I'm familiar with are in convention centers - very commercial, very regimented, very professional. CES, the International Toy Fair, E3.... not alot of "bargaining", unless you're talking about contract negotiations. So I'm guessing "trade show" means something else in this context.)
...heck, thinking about it, even the garage sales I've been to had no bargaining (that I saw). Everything had a marked price, people paid it and left.Edited by Kiralyn2000 on April 9, 2017 8:19PM1 -
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✭DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »
Ever been to a flea market? A garge/yard sale? Ever been to a non-western country, who have street vendors?DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »Bartering Bargaining is a lost practice.
Usually greed and laziness are the main reasons.
Not at all. We don't live in a society of small kiosks. Companies list their prices and we search the Internet to find the best price. People are used to take it or leave it pricing.
Comparing online retail to selling things as a vendor or shouting on the street are two different things.
I lived in a poor Asian country for a decade. That is irrelevant to the kinds of people that make up the majority of ESO players. MMO players are probably a lot more likely to be buying purchases online than at flea markets.
Add to that the fact that most US groceries are bought in grocery stores where the prices are set. People aren't buying gourds on the street.
Well, I buy a large amount of my groceries from a Farmers Market, so don't assume so much.
I also buy things from stores and also from markets(trade shows, garage/yard sales, flea markets, art shows, etc). All of those places you bargain the deals.
Also, you keep comparing retail consumerism to ESO. Trading kiosk are consignment shops, not stores, hence why there are several price listings for the same items, within the same trader, let alone that market.
You can't really say that we don't bargain as a society when I just gave you 5 examples of daily bargaining an other members have given examples of purchasing vehicles and homes. Transactions that happen daily.
Sometimes, you will be right...except when you are wrong.
Your farmer's market anecdote is nice, but that is not how many Americans (assuming most people on the server are that) buy things. Home and car are not regular activities. They are infrequent events.
People really don't haggle much in the US. That is why people find it so novel in other cultures. This is not a new insight about Americans.
Maybe in your world but my reality is much different than yours. Most likely because I go outside and experience what I am typing...not just buying things online and maintaining a myopic POV.
Good dayPS4: NA - AD PSN: imnotanother (Artell Lyeselle)
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✭✭✭✭✭I usually don't bother with the haggling mind games with people. If I say I'm selling for 4.5k, that's what I'm selling for. If I offer to buy for 25k, that's what I'm buying for. Why play the mind games when I can just skip to the last step?
From what I understand haggling is more or less popular worldwide based on your region. While some may find it commonplace and even standard trading procedure, in other areas it's just not a thing.1 -
Sheva I 7 I✭✭✭✭imnotanother wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »
Ever been to a flea market? A garge/yard sale? Ever been to a non-western country, who have street vendors?DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »Bartering Bargaining is a lost practice.
Usually greed and laziness are the main reasons.
Not at all. We don't live in a society of small kiosks. Companies list their prices and we search the Internet to find the best price. People are used to take it or leave it pricing.
Comparing online retail to selling things as a vendor or shouting on the street are two different things.
I lived in a poor Asian country for a decade. That is irrelevant to the kinds of people that make up the majority of ESO players. MMO players are probably a lot more likely to be buying purchases online than at flea markets.
Add to that the fact that most US groceries are bought in grocery stores where the prices are set. People aren't buying gourds on the street.
Well, I buy a large amount of my groceries from a Farmers Market, so don't assume so much.
I also buy things from stores and also from markets(trade shows, garage/yard sales, flea markets, art shows, etc). All of those places you bargain the deals.
Also, you keep comparing retail consumerism to ESO. Trading kiosk are consignment shops, not stores, hence why there are several price listings for the same items, within the same trader, let alone that market.
You can't really say that we don't bargain as a society when I just gave you 5 examples of daily bargaining an other members have given examples of purchasing vehicles and homes. Transactions that happen daily.
Sometimes, you will be right...except when you are wrong.
Your farmer's market anecdote is nice, but that is not how many Americans (assuming most people on the server are that) buy things. Home and car are not regular activities. They are infrequent events.
People really don't haggle much in the US. That is why people find it so novel in other cultures. This is not a new insight about Americans.
Maybe in your world but my reality is much different than yours. Most likely because I go outside and experience what I am typing...not just buying things online and maintaining a myopic POV.
Good day
You must be one of those annoying gypsies who call me about something im selling on craiglist, and then keep offering $15,16,17,18 on a $20 dollar item with "price is firm" in the ad.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭haggling is 100% a cultural thing. in western culture, we don't really like haggling, in part because it feels like a waste of time. would rather just pay the price and be done with it. it also has a bit of a whiff of "you are not worth the asking price" the exception being major purchases like house, or used car or what not, and even that at least half the time, people would rather just pay what is on the price tag (and in case of houses, a lot of times, your agent does all the haggling for you).
personaly, as I find trading to be a necessary evil, rather then something I don't mind, let alone enjoy? I avoid haggling.dirty worthless casual.
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✭Sheva I 7 I wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »
Ever been to a flea market? A garge/yard sale? Ever been to a non-western country, who have street vendors?DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »Bartering Bargaining is a lost practice.
Usually greed and laziness are the main reasons.
Not at all. We don't live in a society of small kiosks. Companies list their prices and we search the Internet to find the best price. People are used to take it or leave it pricing.
Comparing online retail to selling things as a vendor or shouting on the street are two different things.
I lived in a poor Asian country for a decade. That is irrelevant to the kinds of people that make up the majority of ESO players. MMO players are probably a lot more likely to be buying purchases online than at flea markets.
Add to that the fact that most US groceries are bought in grocery stores where the prices are set. People aren't buying gourds on the street.
Well, I buy a large amount of my groceries from a Farmers Market, so don't assume so much.
I also buy things from stores and also from markets(trade shows, garage/yard sales, flea markets, art shows, etc). All of those places you bargain the deals.
Also, you keep comparing retail consumerism to ESO. Trading kiosk are consignment shops, not stores, hence why there are several price listings for the same items, within the same trader, let alone that market.
You can't really say that we don't bargain as a society when I just gave you 5 examples of daily bargaining an other members have given examples of purchasing vehicles and homes. Transactions that happen daily.
Sometimes, you will be right...except when you are wrong.
Your farmer's market anecdote is nice, but that is not how many Americans (assuming most people on the server are that) buy things. Home and car are not regular activities. They are infrequent events.
People really don't haggle much in the US. That is why people find it so novel in other cultures. This is not a new insight about Americans.
Maybe in your world but my reality is much different than yours. Most likely because I go outside and experience what I am typing...not just buying things online and maintaining a myopic POV.
Good day
You must be one of those annoying gypsies who call me about something im selling on craiglist, and then keep offering $15,16,17,18 on a $20 dollar item with "price is firm" in the ad.
You quote me stating that I physically go to locations to purchase goods but accuse me of buying your junk online...
Sorry, I'm not the "gypsy" you are looking for. Good day.PS4: NA - AD PSN: imnotanother (Artell Lyeselle)
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✭✭I'm about 90% asleep and thought you were asking if players like gagging... goodnight internet
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Jaeysa✭✭✭✭✭imnotanother wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »
Ever been to a flea market? A garge/yard sale? Ever been to a non-western country, who have street vendors?DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »Bartering Bargaining is a lost practice.
Usually greed and laziness are the main reasons.
Not at all. We don't live in a society of small kiosks. Companies list their prices and we search the Internet to find the best price. People are used to take it or leave it pricing.
Comparing online retail to selling things as a vendor or shouting on the street are two different things.
I lived in a poor Asian country for a decade. That is irrelevant to the kinds of people that make up the majority of ESO players. MMO players are probably a lot more likely to be buying purchases online than at flea markets.
Add to that the fact that most US groceries are bought in grocery stores where the prices are set. People aren't buying gourds on the street.
Well, I buy a large amount of my groceries from a Farmers Market, so don't assume so much.
I also buy things from stores and also from markets(trade shows, garage/yard sales, flea markets, art shows, etc). All of those places you bargain the deals.
Also, you keep comparing retail consumerism to ESO. Trading kiosk are consignment shops, not stores, hence why there are several price listings for the same items, within the same trader, let alone that market.
You can't really say that we don't bargain as a society when I just gave you 5 examples of daily bargaining an other members have given examples of purchasing vehicles and homes. Transactions that happen daily.
Sometimes, you will be right...except when you are wrong.
Your farmer's market anecdote is nice, but that is not how many Americans (assuming most people on the server are that) buy things. Home and car are not regular activities. They are infrequent events.
People really don't haggle much in the US. That is why people find it so novel in other cultures. This is not a new insight about Americans.
Maybe in your world but my reality is much different than yours. Most likely because I go outside and experience what I am typing...not just buying things online and maintaining a myopic POV.
Good day
As someone who does go outside and 'experience...outside typing', and -does- go to farmers markets and trade shows and craft fairs and renaissance fairs, I still don't experience much if any in the way of haggling. As someone who's sold at those shows(Ren/art shows) it pisses me off when people try to get what I was selling for less than I ask. Sorry, just because you aren't willing to pay for things at a given price doesn't mean that isn't what they are worth. When you count materials and labor time, most artists under-value their work.PC/NA: Primarily Daggerfall Covenant.
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✭✭✭✭✭DaveMoeDee wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »It's not just the Xbox 1 servers. Of course sellers don't like to haggle. It's a waste of energy. Usually on the "streets" the seller already stated their price and most likely it's the lowest s/he will go. The prices are already cheaper than the traders why try to haggle for a lower price?
When I state a price it's already my lowest price I will go. I will not reply back if someone try to haggle. I don't have time for that. And there usually other players already whispering me about the item for the price I asked. I very rarely use zone chat to sell.
Or you could reply with "no thank you"
Communication gets your point across.
Since you "don't have time" you could also reply with "Nty".
If he is getting 20 responses, no need to respond to any except the one that won.Maybe a zone message if he is feeling generous.
ESO has a significant amount of controversy commodity type items sells outside of guild traders. There are a number of players that have others that send them alchemy matts and such directly for a fixed price that beats guild traders going rate.
No saying it's the bulk but I'm the context of this thread your comements concern sales means that are not relevant.0 -
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✭If someone suggests a price i'll usually just accept it.
The one thing I can not stand is, I whisper "how much", and they reply "offer". That's when I move on and don't even bother. If I'm feeling bothered i'll give a stupid price, 5K for example when the item may be worth 100k. They reply "no", then i'll just message back "well how *** much then!?"
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Rainwhisper✭✭✭✭✭Haggling is as old as MMO's, and is a well-established norm. I assume any stated price is someone's first offer, not their best.1 -
Bouldercleave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I hate it. I haggle all day every day at my job and wouldn't even consider doing it all evening in game. If I think the price is fair - I'll pay it.
I don't sell in zone at all. I put stuff up in Guild at good prices and sell it quick.0 -
Rainwhisper✭✭✭✭✭Bouldercleave wrote: »I hate it. I haggle all day every day at my job and wouldn't even consider doing it all evening in game. If I think the price is fair - I'll pay it.
I don't sell in zone at all. I put stuff up in Guild at good prices and sell it quick.
That seems reasonable. If you don't want to haggle, sell on a guild trader.
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AFrostWolf✭✭✭✭I don't even think it's really haggling to askShad0wfire99 wrote: »I don't haggle. If I ask someone how much they want for whatever they're selling, and they reply with "make an offer," the conversation is over.
What a waste. They put you in a great advantage. If you chose your words right, you can walk away with a huge saving. Hell I've been buying Kuta's, Tempering Alloy, and Dreugh wax anywhere from 1k to 4k cheaper then trader prices. I also bough a bundle of them today that was worth around 100k and got them for only 65k.
Which is strange because usually I don't have as much luck with these kinds of deals most of the time. Must be my lucky day becase I'm scoring deal left and right. I probably saved around 100k - 150k so far in resorce upgrades.
And I'm damn happy to sell to people like you. Because I want my gold now, If i didn't care when I got the gold I'd just leave it on the trader and hope someone buys it while im afk/offline/ect. But while I'm online, I need that gold to do the things I want to do with it.0 -
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✭I like to haggle, whether buying or selling. I'm not really the trader/merchant/PvE type, though so I rarely get to do it. Not many people go to cyrodiil to buy or sell (and rightfully so: we don't have much gold), and that's where I spend all of my time.The generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?0 -
S1ipperyJim✭✭✭✭✭People in general don't know how to nor do they like to haggle. It is particularly annoying when you ask them what they are selling for and they refuse even to give their starting price.
I think it's a western culture thing as haggling is commonplace and part of the fun of buying and selling in many other cultures.0 -
S1ipperyJim✭✭✭✭✭Muramasa89 wrote: »The way I always saw it, if I go into a shop and a chocolate bar is 50p, it's 50p, not 45 or 55. I take the same approach in-game. I don't ever feel like I ask for much, so if I have set a price and people insist on trying to get it cheaper, you're trying to take me for a mug (and I appreciate it's not always a malicious thing either, I like to get good deals too).
I also don't bother with people who say "Offer?", haven't for many years on other games. It either tells me you're clueless or you have a price but are too embarrassed to tell me because it's probably too much and I cannot be bothered with the hassle.
I try to keep to guild traders.
ANY large purchase IRL can be bargained down even in places like the US. Obviously not on supermarket confectionary but if you're a chump if you pay full price for anything worth more than $100.0
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