Do Players Not Like Haggling?

Emothic

Maybe it's just because I'm on the Xbox One - NA server and it's different on other consoles and servers. But for some reason no one ever likes to haggle prices on this game. What I mean is that right now Kuta's are going for 5k in the guild trader. Now normally they are cheaper when sold on the "streets", through the chat system. I asked around seeing if anyone was selling Kuta's. One person said they were selling them for 4.5k each. Of which I responded "Can you do 4k each?". I did not recive any reply back from the individual, and unknown to them I would of gone 4.5k if they attempted to haggle their price at the very least.

Hell this happens to alot of items I'm trying to buy or sell. A player wants to sell or buy at a price they offer, I give them a counter offer of just 500 - 1k gold difference. And in turn I recive no reply from them. It's weird, because for a Free "Market" economy with no restrictions or regulations you would think that more players would try to haggle prices a little bit

Viewers note: The kuta is used as an example. I used a small priced and well known item to set a easy to understand example for the topic as a whole. Many of you seem to ignore that I used it as an example and use it for the bases of your arguments. As well as the indiviual was selling 10 kuta's for 4.5k each. That's a total of 45k gold. I was trying to get them for 4k each for a total of 40k gold and saving 5k. Though I did not mention how many kuta's I did say the word "each" meaning that multiple was being sold/bought.

Luigi_Vampa

I don't. That is why I only sell or buy using guild traders. I don't enjoy playing merchant and haggling.

Jadednatas

I don't wanna haggle, if you want somethin and I have it... i state my price (that is already as low as i am willing to go).. if you reply with how about a random lower number I won't reply.

AFrostWolf

Apparently not. I try selling in zone because I hate the guild trader system. I don't say how much, I let the other person decide what they want to offer. Or if I say "offer?" I get no reply. Like it's not hard to haggle a little bit. Often times you get better prices than guild traders because we're trying to instant sell the item. Guild traders are more of a, list it and hope it sells in the long term or while offline.

inf.toniceb17_ESO

Kuta huh? Try selling some rare weapon that costs like 300k-400k. 10 ppl will expect you to sell it for 10k or smthn and half of those will call you an idiot before 11th guy will actually buy it from you. If you wanna sell/buy on the "streets", as you call it, you better get used to it. Just keep trying. Very few people out there are actually willing to haggle but there are ppl who will. Well on PC-EU at least.

BigBragg

I am not a haggler myself, but there are many people and cultures that thrive on the art. I will shop for a deal though. Usually when buying mats in game I will hit up some major cities and toss out what I am looking for, how much, and the price I am willing to pay. Hasn't failed me yet.

Khenarthi

I refuse to haggle: if the price is honest there's no need for haggling. I usually buy and sell only via my guild traders because of this.

coop500

I play on the PC and I noticed this too, any counter offers get ignored or if you just want to leave it up to the players. I usually link the item in chat and say first fair offer gets it. That has gotten me better results but it's still off.

Before buying or selling you really want to make sure you do a Price Check, some guy tried to get me to pay 6K gold for a primal motif book, which numerous price checks at the time said it was only worth about 500-1000 gold. But I told the guy and he gave it to me for free, so don't always fault people for it. Replying is better then ignoring.

Kiralyn2000

Haggling, ugh.

When I do chat-sell in MMOs, I always try to go for a fair/low price. I'll check what something's worth first, and then undercut. If you offer me a lower price, that means you don't want my item.

I don't haggle IRL either. I don't want to deal with shop staff, I don't enjoy them bugging me to offer assistance - I just want to go in, get what I'm looking for, and get out. Haggling isn't part of my lifestyle/mindset/whatever. I think it's more for those "outgoing" people I've heard about.

Skayaq

it is so annoying when people don't want to haggle,. So many times have I tried to sell something, people ask how much, and when I reply with a price (usually lower than mm, but still a little higher than what I expect to get) they just go nope won't pay that, but they won't say how much they actually want to pay.

Twilix01

I only tolerate haggling myself if you've got something else to offer in a trade to make the lower cost worth my time. I'm a pretty patient person when it comes to getting rid of stuff so I'm in no rush to empty out stock. That and I generally price at the minimum for selling things anyway so I get annoyed when asked to lower the price even further with no incentive offered.

Reminds me of a time I was selling something in zone before I joined a trading guild and someone offered to by something for less than half of the price I was offering it for. When asked why I'd sell it for so low he only said "Well you need to get rid of it don't you?". That was the end of that conversation right there.

Balamoor

Depends....sometimes I like to get my haggle on, I'm not a big RPer but one of the best RP sessions I ever had was two days ago haggling the price for making a Kitchen table.

Times like that reminds me that the toxic jerkwads in pugfinder and on the forums are the minority.

DaveMoeDee

Haggling makes sense in some contexts. But if I am in a trade guild with a good location, any direct sales will be take it or leave it. Also, with no shortage of people up to trade, people can just wait for someone willing to pay the price they want unless they are trying to make a lot of sales.

Danikat

I don't ever buy or sell outside my own guilds. I wasted enough time in other games hanging around in town spamming chat and then trying to persuade someone to actually sell the thing they just told me they're trying to sell. Sure when I was a teenager and felt like I had all the time in the world it might have been amusing occasionally. Now I have much better things to do with my life and when I'm in game I just want to get on with playing.

It also doesn't help that I know for a fact there are much more efficient trade systems out there, but for whatever reason not in this game.

Balamoor

Jadednatas wrote: »

I don't wanna haggle, if you want somethin and I have it... i state my price (that is already as low as i am willing to go).. if you reply with how about a random lower number I won't reply.

Eocosa

I think it may be 2-fold as you are on Xbox.

1- the text chat can take quite awhile to type if you don't have the keyboard added which may make it simply too big a hassle for someone to respond with "sorry I can't go lower" or whatever to every haggled price.

2- I don't have much experience with this in this particular game as I make use of guild traders usually, but as others have stated and I have personally seen in other games, haggling in MMOs often just leads to abuse that isn't worth it. Not saying you are doing it or even most hagglers (heck I've haggled myself), but all too often someone will try to talk you down, you counter offer or decline and are immediately attacked for your price.

These reasons, I personally suspect, may be why you don't see much haggling taking place.

Kiralyn2000

Skayaq wrote: »

So many times have I tried to sell something, people ask how much, and when I reply with a price (usually lower than mm, but still a little higher than what I expect to get)

This might be a silly question, but.... why not just offer it for what you expect to get? /confused

Myyth

nope waste of time
there is always someone who will pay full price. not worth the hassle

Skayaq

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Skayaq wrote: »

So many times have I tried to sell something, people ask how much, and when I reply with a price (usually lower than mm, but still a little higher than what I expect to get)

This might be a silly question, but.... why not just offer it for what you expect to get? /confused

Because sometimes you get lucky, and people will buy at your first offer.

bulbousb16_ESO

Haggling, just as in real life, is for those of low character.

imnotanother

Bartering Bargaining is a lost practice.

Usually greed and laziness are the main reasons.

Kiralyn2000

imnotanother wrote: »

Bartering is a lost practice.

Bartering is for people who don't have a currency system.

(And extroverts, who actually enjoy interacting with all those annoying "people" out there.)

Balamoor

bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »

Haggling, just as in real life, is for those of low character.

That's a very western philosophy, in many of the open markets I visited in countries like Morocco, and Pakistan it's respected and considered an art form by some.

seaef

Myyth wrote: »

nope waste of time
there is always someone who will pay full price. not worth the hassle

Exactly.

Sometimes I'll post a WTS in chat and as a few people start up their usual "you'll never sell it for that price" banter, someone is already whispering me, "I'll buy!"

No need to haggle.

imnotanother

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

Bartering is a lost practice.

Bartering is for people who don't have a currency system.

(And extroverts, who actually enjoy interacting with all those annoying "people"

Sorry I meant to use bargaining instead of bartering.

Blacksmoke

Why sell it for less while you know you can get full price? Hell on a good day I can sell it for 500 - 1000 more then that

Dantaria

Definitely a matter of personal preferences here Because honestly? Personally I'm sitting like: o___O

Why. The hell. Would I haggle. For bunch of pixels. In game.

I like... literally have thousands of things I'd better do both in game and in RL. Haggling for pixels? Really? I have nor time, nor desire, nor patience for this.

And yes, when all this "You said 4.5k, but will you settle for 4k?" starts, I only get irritated and yes. You can be sure I'll ignore you. Like... I said 4.5k. And that's it, you greedy little ***.

I don't even do it in RL. The price is there. If it's too much for me, I'll go and search for better offer elsewhere. The same goes for selling. You want lower? Just go away.

Of course, when I see something like "WTS Kuta 50k" in zone chat, I'll surely link MM and laugh loudly, so no newbie will fall for this. But when we talk about prices plus-minus in range of MM/TTC? Don't waste my time.

Kiralyn2000

imnotanother wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

Bartering is a lost practice.

Bartering is for people who don't have a currency system.

(And extroverts, who actually enjoy interacting with all those annoying "people"

Sorry I meant to use bargaining instead of bartering.

Well, the extrovert part still applies to bargaining.

Muramasa89

The way I always saw it, if I go into a shop and a chocolate bar is 50p, it's 50p, not 45 or 55. I take the same approach in-game. I don't ever feel like I ask for much, so if I have set a price and people insist on trying to get it cheaper, you're trying to take me for a mug (and I appreciate it's not always a malicious thing either, I like to get good deals too).

I also don't bother with people who say "Offer?", haven't for many years on other games. It either tells me you're clueless or you have a price but are too embarrassed to tell me because it's probably too much and I cannot be bothered with the hassle.

I try to keep to guild traders.

FlicksZ

No haggling for me.

Most people want you to make an offer when you ask how much, give them a good offer and they usually come back with "Oh was expecting x2 said offer"..... Greed.

If a price was already stated there's usually no haggling, no waste of peoples time. I understand some people like this but honestly it adds up to a lot of time. Only good if its like the one thing you can not find on the guild kiosks.

Haggling can be fun, nice and sociable but in this game its mostly used to see if you can "scam" the other person. Don't need that, we have the guild kiosk system already. PC EU.

idk

In OPs examply the guy is already offering the items below what he would make selling it at market value via a guild trader and OP is asking for him to take another 10$ loss. For an item that easily sells it does not make sense.

Basically, the seller would do better selling via the guild trader than dealing with OP.