Maelstrom Poison Round

D0ntevenL1ft
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So if a venom caller spawns while you're in the minder bubble you're just ***?
  • SirAndy
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    All hail (and die) to RNG!
  • Dark_Aether
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    She dies from boss' scream if she spawns as he does it. The real pain is when the add spawns the bubble on top of a pod.
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    All hail (and die) to RNG!

    Or when both minders port beside each other and die at the same time.

    Great round design.
  • LiquidPony
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    Nah. Bash and deal with the consequences, or move the minders right next to the cleansing pool
  • lonewolf26
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    If I'm on one of my magicka toons spam shields until scream's done then walk casually over to the cleanse zone.

    If i'm on one of my stamina toons spam curse words at my monitor and fruitlessly hope that vigor will buy me a second or two more before my demise.
    Edited by lonewolf26 on April 7, 2017 7:37PM
  • Danksta
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    She dies from boss' scream if she spawns as he does it. The real pain is when the add spawns the bubble on top of a pod.

    But you control where the bubble goes up. If you don't like where the Minder is then kite it a little further away from a flower.
    BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA

  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Danksta wrote: »
    She dies from boss' scream if she spawns as he does it. The real pain is when the add spawns the bubble on top of a pod.

    But you control where the bubble goes up. If you don't like where the Minder is then kite it a little further away from a flower.

    Not when they port beside each other and die quick from aoe? Ofcourse you can control it most times but that just adds to the rng of the round
  • LiquidPony
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    Danksta wrote: »
    She dies from boss' scream if she spawns as he does it. The real pain is when the add spawns the bubble on top of a pod.

    But you control where the bubble goes up. If you don't like where the Minder is then kite it a little further away from a flower.

    This.

    Round 7 can be a pain for sure but it's all controllable. Venom callers are on a timer. You can pull the minders around. You can bash. IMO "RNG" is an excuse.
  • lonewolf26
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    Danksta wrote: »
    She dies from boss' scream if she spawns as he does it. The real pain is when the add spawns the bubble on top of a pod.

    But you control where the bubble goes up. If you don't like where the Minder is then kite it a little further away from a flower.

    Sadly it's not always under your control. My worst experiences involve the Minder dying just as the summoner spawns in. Bad timing, but generally will result in a flower spawning then bursting under the Minder who's already firmly planted.
    Edited by lonewolf26 on April 7, 2017 7:41PM
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Danksta wrote: »
    She dies from boss' scream if she spawns as he does it. The real pain is when the add spawns the bubble on top of a pod.

    But you control where the bubble goes up. If you don't like where the Minder is then kite it a little further away from a flower.

    This.

    Round 7 can be a pain for sure but it's all controllable. Venom callers are on a timer. You can pull the minders around. You can bash. IMO "RNG" is an excuse.

    Read up
  • jakeedmundson
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    Danksta wrote: »
    She dies from boss' scream if she spawns as he does it. The real pain is when the add spawns the bubble on top of a pod.

    But you control where the bubble goes up. If you don't like where the Minder is then kite it a little further away from a flower.

    Problem i have... also when i seem to get that stupid 1 death in my run... RIGHT as i kill one minder... the flowers start popping up and i get hit on the way to the shield... or it pops up while i'm in the shield just before the scream kills it :| i swear it happens more often than not.
    Edited by jakeedmundson on April 7, 2017 7:42PM
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  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Danksta wrote: »
    She dies from boss' scream if she spawns as he does it. The real pain is when the add spawns the bubble on top of a pod.

    But you control where the bubble goes up. If you don't like where the Minder is then kite it a little further away from a flower.

    Problem i have... also when i seem to get that stupid 1 death in my run... RIGHT as i kill one minder... the flowers start popping up and i get hit on the way to the shield... or it pops up while i'm in the shield just before the scream kills it :| i swear it happens more often than not.

    Exactly; it can spawn under you in the damn bubble
  • Danksta
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    Danksta wrote: »
    She dies from boss' scream if she spawns as he does it. The real pain is when the add spawns the bubble on top of a pod.

    But you control where the bubble goes up. If you don't like where the Minder is then kite it a little further away from a flower.

    Not when they port beside each other and die quick from aoe? Ofcourse you can control it most times but that just adds to the rng of the round

    I have never seen one streak towards the other. I've only seen them streak after the scream phase and only then because I didn't kill them fast enough.
    BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA

  • The_Conquerer
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    yea the RNG on that is the worst. All you can try to do is kill the minder that isnt near a plant already that way you can almost guarantee one of them wont spawn in the bubble with you.
    Edited by The_Conquerer on April 7, 2017 8:11PM
  • jakeedmundson
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Danksta wrote: »
    She dies from boss' scream if she spawns as he does it. The real pain is when the add spawns the bubble on top of a pod.

    But you control where the bubble goes up. If you don't like where the Minder is then kite it a little further away from a flower.

    This.

    Round 7 can be a pain for sure but it's all controllable. Venom callers are on a timer. You can pull the minders around. You can bash. IMO "RNG" is an excuse.

    Read up

    Maybe the PC folks can time it when they have addons telling what to do and exactly when to do it (in other words, play the game for you)... console is a little less helpful.
    Reading up on it doesn't solve the issue. The RNG portion that people hate is WHERE the poison mushrooms spawn. Which could be anywhere.
    I've done plenty of flawless runs btw... it doesn't negate the fact that this part of the mechanic kind of sucks.
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  • Danksta
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Danksta wrote: »
    She dies from boss' scream if she spawns as he does it. The real pain is when the add spawns the bubble on top of a pod.

    But you control where the bubble goes up. If you don't like where the Minder is then kite it a little further away from a flower.

    This.

    Round 7 can be a pain for sure but it's all controllable. Venom callers are on a timer. You can pull the minders around. You can bash. IMO "RNG" is an excuse.

    Read up

    Maybe the PC folks can time it when they have addons telling what to do and exactly when to do it (in other words, play the game for you)... console is a little less helpful.
    Reading up on it doesn't solve the issue. The RNG portion that people hate is WHERE the poison mushrooms spawn. Which could be anywhere.
    I've done plenty of flawless runs btw... it doesn't negate the fact that this part of the mechanic kind of sucks.

    It's not that I don't agree that the minder's bubble should give immunity to the flowers, I'm just saying there's ways around it. You can even wait for one to show up before killing a minder, I've done it on a stam sorc so with all your fancy shields it shouldn't be a problem. Console player FWIW
    BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA

  • Dragonnord
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    Whatever the situation is, you can always bash or interrupt the boss from distance.
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Danksta wrote: »
    Danksta wrote: »
    She dies from boss' scream if she spawns as he does it. The real pain is when the add spawns the bubble on top of a pod.

    But you control where the bubble goes up. If you don't like where the Minder is then kite it a little further away from a flower.

    Not when they port beside each other and die quick from aoe? Ofcourse you can control it most times but that just adds to the rng of the round

    I have never seen one streak towards the other. I've only seen them streak after the scream phase and only then because I didn't kill them fast enough.

    They port directly ontop of the player to do their AOE attack… what round have you been playing
  • Danksta
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    Danksta wrote: »
    Danksta wrote: »
    She dies from boss' scream if she spawns as he does it. The real pain is when the add spawns the bubble on top of a pod.

    But you control where the bubble goes up. If you don't like where the Minder is then kite it a little further away from a flower.

    Not when they port beside each other and die quick from aoe? Ofcourse you can control it most times but that just adds to the rng of the round

    I have never seen one streak towards the other. I've only seen them streak after the scream phase and only then because I didn't kill them fast enough.

    They port directly ontop of the player to do their AOE attack… what round have you been playing

    I play melee so I kill the one that spawns furthest from me and that leaves the other one near the boss and never by me. They only do the streak/AoE attack after the scream phase. Maybe if you don't kill them fast enough they do it?? I don't think that's a thing though because I've waited for the summoner to appear because I knew he was coming so I could kill him before the minder and I've literally never seen it besides after the scream phase.
    BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA

  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Danksta wrote: »
    Danksta wrote: »
    Danksta wrote: »
    She dies from boss' scream if she spawns as he does it. The real pain is when the add spawns the bubble on top of a pod.

    But you control where the bubble goes up. If you don't like where the Minder is then kite it a little further away from a flower.

    Not when they port beside each other and die quick from aoe? Ofcourse you can control it most times but that just adds to the rng of the round

    I have never seen one streak towards the other. I've only seen them streak after the scream phase and only then because I didn't kill them fast enough.

    They port directly ontop of the player to do their AOE attack… what round have you been playing

    I play melee so I kill the one that spawns furthest from me and that leaves the other one near the boss and never by me. They only do the streak/AoE attack after the scream phase. Maybe if you don't kill them fast enough they do it?? I don't think that's a thing though because I've waited for the summoner to appear because I knew he was coming so I could kill him before the minder and I've literally never seen it besides after the scream phase.

    Not sure completely but i just had the most frustrating 20 mins dealing with almost every possibility of wipe but at least its over with; for this run anyway...
  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Ended up getting maelstrom flame staff with precise trait :) Not the best but better than most people ever get ;) Only my second run ever btw
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    What happens if u bash the boss?
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  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    What happens if u bash the boss?

    I think you develop a colon infection.. i wouldn't risk it
  • Izaki
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    In this particular Round you control pretty much everything, but yet people like to think of it as RNG. You control where you stand (so don't stand next to a flower), you can pop the flowers (by roll dodging or sprinting through them), you chose the position of the minders (just kite them a little or pop a flower before killer one of them), lastly, you can interrupt the boss at any given time if a flower spawns under the minder (it never pops straight away and you have roughly 3 seconds before the scream kills you if you go out of the bubble). When you interrupt the boss' scream, you have to be extra careful about the incoming damage as his damage is almost doubled, which is why positioning of the minder is so important. I'm pretty sure that when a flower spawns, it explodes about 30 seconds later, which is shorter than the scream phase, so you should be fine. The minder's shield is about 6m radius, the flower will pop if you're 2m or closer to it, so if you stand on the edge of the shield, the flower will not pop.

    This round is all about positioning and awareness, not so much the mobs themselves or the amount of incoming damage or some particular mechanics. You control pretty much everything in terms of mechanics, aside from the flower spawn positions and the venom caller positions. Not so RNG after all, is it?
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  • xeNNNNN
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    So if a venom caller spawns while you're in the minder bubble you're just ***?

    If you're stam, vemon caller easily dies to poison inject.

    Honestly, if you're struggling just stop with the boss and just light attack cancel into a poison inject and you're proc hawkeye off the light attack and your poison inject should delete the vemon caller quickly.

    endless hail is also another option too.

    The rest unfortunately is RNG that cannot be helped. I hate that stage even on my sorc because the plants are just rediculous sometimes.
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