ESO+ Subscription rewards: Stamina Regeneration While Blocking

Personofsecrets · April 2017

DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

I wish they would just go back to a free item once a year for subscribers . The tiger Senche mount is one of the best Ingame . I'd stay subscribed for a year to get something cool like that every anniversary .

Why on earth would anyone want to pay for something, for a whole year, and not be advantaged for doing so?

Already get more XP and more gold . Don't need more advantages . Loyalty rewards are fun . Exclusive fluff is fun . I don't like going down the pay to win road in any game .

Besides , people pay more for the best mounts and costumes then they do for the entire game . Some of those houses are almost a years worth of crowns if not more . I'm not sure as ai haven't done the math . But rewarding with a house like that once a year on top of crowns would be a great jester in my opinion . I'd stay subbed for that too . After one year get a island or a chateau ...

I would definitely stay subbed for that, but then again I would stay subbed anyway even if they offered nothing more than than they did before craft bags. Why? Because I support the game, it's not about getting added perks, it's about letting them know I appreciate their hard work.

Definitely need to stay away from p2w though. It already is, 99.8% of all f2p and mmos in general are p2w in some form. Just to what extent is the question. ESO it's minor right now, but it steadily keeps increasing into the p2w model as time progresses.

Quick secret off topic
(I think their subscription based p2p model was broken from the start. The only people who would pay to play ESO every month would've been the TES fans, but considering ESO is nothing like the single player games, there was nothing for us to keep us here other than lore. I stick around of habit, friends, time invested, and mostly just lack of good mmos for consoles since my pc crapped out and haven't been able to get a new one yet)

Your off topic note is probably one of the most important things, especially if true, that could be said on the topic of this game's subscription model.

The off topic part was mostly meant for my rant about why I stay. It's still a good game not saying it's not, but I know as a fan it was a huge disappointment and let down after years of anticipation and waiting before it was even announced.

If they want to increase their sales, they need to reconsider many of their core gameplay mechanics and make things more in tune for solo gameplay and set their skills up like their single player games. No classes, be what you want, use what you want, play how you truly want.

Off to bed, good discussion, goodnight.

Thank you. You have a good night too.

O_LYKOS · April 2017

Eso + should never impact that game mechanics in any way.

First stamina regen. How about Eso + members get increased health pool too? Heck, throw in some health regen while they're at it.

Bowser · April 2017

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Bowser wrote: »

Also, with max block cost reduction and sturdy, you get positive stamina while blocking.

What is your point @Bowser ?

My point is that we do have stamina recovery while blocking when using the appropriate gear.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · April 2017

You want stamina regeneration while blocking? Use a frost staff then although your magcka wont regenerate though.

ZOS_JohanaB · April 2017

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Personofsecrets · April 2017

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

You want stamina regeneration while blocking? Use a frost staff then although your magcka wont regenerate though.

This mechanic is actually pretty cool, but the fact that one must use a frost staff drags it down in my opinion.

I would like to see, at least, a wand/shield line.

LadyLavina · April 2017

Personofsecrets wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

You want stamina regeneration while blocking? Use a frost staff then although your magcka wont regenerate though.

This mechanic is actually pretty cool, but the fact that one must use a frost staff drags it down in my opinion.

I would like to see, at least, a wand/shield line.

It boggles my mind that your thread is still a thing.

10/10

but seriously this needs to never be a thing.

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pieratsos · April 2017

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Bowser wrote: »

Bro just adapat already

So if u are first on the leaderboards of the hardest content in the game why exactly do u want to be buffed?

Phinix1 · April 2017

I vote all Emperor passives so long as ESO+ subscribed.

Sybreed_Neurodrive · April 2017

Probably THE worst if not THE worst idea i've ever heard. LOL

Nifty2g · April 2017

Bowser wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Bowser wrote: »

Bro just adapat already

How about you share a screenshot from the current year? I heard you got kicked from Mundus for being a bad tank.

Panda_iMunch · April 2017

Pay2win, but also really stupid considering the sheer number of perma block builds and boring game play. "Yeah, i'll just stand here the whole fight!"

hydrocynus · April 2017

Personofsecrets wrote: »

AndrewQ84 wrote: »

No combat bonuses or armour in the subscription model. Nothing at all that affects combat. That's Pay to Win

Nothing that affects combat, except the ability to hold unlimited materials for crafting gear, pots, food, and extra space to hold gear that might be useful in the future!

And that there is the intended agenda of this thread.

Just lol. Let it go.

Personofsecrets · April 2017

hydrocynus wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

AndrewQ84 wrote: »

No combat bonuses or armour in the subscription model. Nothing at all that affects combat. That's Pay to Win

Nothing that affects combat, except the ability to hold unlimited materials for crafting gear, pots, food, and extra space to hold gear that might be useful in the future!

And that there is the intended agenda of this thread.

Just lol. Let it go.

I'm pretty sure that we can get more subscription bonuses if we discuss how we like them. I'm not sure why you would think otherwise.

xRIVALENx · April 2017

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Considering that we are losing cost reduction passives, isn't about time that we get stamina regeneration while blocking back?

There is no where near as much reason to not have stamina regeneration while blocking if CP granted resource management is greatly reduced.

It is not necessary... With block cost reduction glyphs and the constitution passive you can currently regenerate stamina while permanently blocking.

*EDIT*

This is without the use of Black Rose or Monster sets...

Juhasow · April 2017

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Considering that we are losing cost reduction passives, isn't about time that we get stamina regeneration while blocking back?

There is no where near as much reason to not have stamina regeneration while blocking if CP granted resource management is greatly reduced.

Stamina regen when blocking was an issue before CP era when there was also soft caps so I dont see reason why it should return. You still have block cost reduction in CP.

rotaugen454 · April 2017

Give the subs a furnished version of every house in the game, but if they add furniture and don't pay their sub, they get evicted. If they didn't remove their furniture prior to that, they lose it, much like in real life.

Jitterbug · April 2017

ZOS_JohanaB wrote: »

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I agree!

Personofsecrets · April 2017

xRIVALENx wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Considering that we are losing cost reduction passives, isn't about time that we get stamina regeneration while blocking back?

There is no where near as much reason to not have stamina regeneration while blocking if CP granted resource management is greatly reduced.

It is not necessary... With block cost reduction glyphs and the constitution passive you can currently regenerate stamina while permanently blocking.

*EDIT*

This is without the use of Black Rose or Monster sets...

Many things are not necessary, but that doesn't mean that we wouldn't be happy to still receive them.

Double pepperoni isn't necessary to have on a pizza, but can be pleasing to have!

Personofsecrets · April 2017

rotaugen454 wrote: »

Give the subs a furnished version of every house in the game, but if they add furniture and don't pay their sub, they get evicted. If they didn't remove their furniture prior to that, they lose it, much like in real life.

I actually think that this idea is pretty funny.

Rickter · April 2017

I get the OP's point. It would boost subscriptions, but not by much, just the ones that primarily tank that arent already subbed.

and its not paid to win. because a number 1 best NA tank is already winning without it.

i say - SURE!

Danksta · April 2017

Rickter wrote: »

I get the OP's point. It would boost subscriptions, but not by much, just the ones that primarily tank that arent already subbed.

and its not paid to win. because a number 1 best NA tank is already winning without it.

i say - SURE!

Well that logic is certainly flawed. There's people winning right now without crown store vMA weapons with twice as strong as enchantments as the dropped ones, but if they were implemented I'm not sure how you could get more P2W than that.

Riga_Mortis · April 2017

Lol sub2win

rotaugen454 · April 2017

I didn't choose the Sub Life, the Sub Life chose me.

Rickter · April 2017

i dont see how this is pay to win from a pve perspective. which is kind of where the OP is coming from. but that is precisely evidence in to how this was yet another pve change due to pvp.

stam regen while blocking in pvp is a huge advantage. hence pay to win. sorry i didnt read all three pages - did the OP address the advantage this would give in pvp?

TheStealthDude · April 2017

I can't believe how many people bit on this troll thread. Well done, OP!

Kodrac · April 2017

Usually I mock the Pay2Win crazies, but that's because they're usually crying about something that isn't P2W. This here actually is. So no.

DaveMoeDee · April 2017

Rickter wrote: »

i dont see how this is pay to win from a pve perspective. which is kind of where the OP is coming from. but that is precisely evidence in to how this was yet another pve change due to pvp.

stam regen while blocking in pvp is a huge advantage. hence pay to win. sorry i didnt read all three pages - did the OP address the advantage this would give in pvp?

Then what is "pay to win" from a pve perspective if stat boosts aren't?

pod88kk · April 2017

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Careful now

Personofsecrets · April 2017

Rickter wrote: »

i dont see how this is pay to win from a pve perspective. which is kind of where the OP is coming from. but that is precisely evidence in to how this was yet another pve change due to pvp.

stam regen while blocking in pvp is a huge advantage. hence pay to win. sorry i didnt read all three pages - did the OP address the advantage this would give in pvp?

I didn't really think about PVP @Rickter .

People write pretty much every day how they are encountering these unkillable brutes who somehow manage to never drop block. I just assumed, because of all of these reports that stam regen while blocking would just be a nice little bonus everywhere, but not really change things so much.