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Golding out tank gear
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Iyas✭✭✭✭✭
✭For me its not worth it at all. Only gold pieces should be wpns and shields. Maybe the monster set.2 -
Grabmoore✭✭✭✭✭I did this for important buff sets like alkosh or ebon. However I wouldn't gold out selfish sets like footman or histbark.EU - PC - Ebonheart Pact
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HatchetHaro✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I spent over 600k on tempers golding out two of my sets.
Totally worth it.Best Argonian NA and I will fight anyone for it
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If its your main set and your over 160 cp why wouldn't you. Then again I've only got two toons and far more golds than i use for my own gear0
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WalksonGraves✭✭✭✭✭
✭Gold the shield if you really want something, weapon stats are meaningless for tanks and most set abilities don't increase enough to be noticeable. You really only need purple.1 -
paulsimonps✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭WalksonGraves wrote: »Gold the shield if you really want something, weapon stats are meaningless for tanks and most set abilities don't increase enough to be noticeable. You really only need purple.
If you have a good trait like Infused or Decisive on then golding out weapons is really important.Sheva I 7 I wrote: »Is it worth it? Should I just gold out big pieces/shields/weapons?
I gold everything, if I can get the slightest of edge I will take it. It can give slightly more HP, Mag regen, Stamina. Everything increases exponentially with many of the Percentage passive as well so why wouldn't you? And the extra armor is great too, I never use reinforced or nirnhoned, its not necessary with golded out armor.0 -
Oompuh✭✭✭✭✭My alkosh is gold
My warden is gold
My ebon is purple
40 temps for 39 more health, I just can't bring myself to do itXbox NA - Oompa
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paulsimonps✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭My alkosh is gold
My warden is gold
My ebon is purple
40 temps for 39 more health, I just can't bring myself to do it
Its also 232 more resistance if its all armor pieces
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DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭paulsimonps wrote: »
Also if golding it out it gives a minor amount more stats on the sets and enchants if using infused items. For those and reinforced I think it's worth it. Blood spawn and sentinel are worth it.PC Master Race
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Phinix1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Only 300k gold worth of mats for 1/10th of 1 minor DOT tick worth of health, or 1/5th of 1% more mitigation?
Sounds like a bargain to me.
Aside from weapons, my experience has been that the difference between purple and gold is way too small to be worth it. Especially since you STILL (after 3 years) can't upgrade jewelry to gold through crafting (got those casino crate mounts in there real fast though). Aside from that OCD there's really no need. Elitists can't inspect you, so let them judge by your performance.
The tank having less than 1% more stats isn't going to fix elitist DPS standing in stupid.
Edited by Phinix1 on April 1, 2017 7:09PM2 -
DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Only 300k gold worth of mats for 1/10th of 1 minor DOT tick worth of health, or 1/5th of 1% more mitigation?
Sounds like a bargain to me.
Aside from weapons, my experience has been that the difference between purple and gold is way too small to be worth it.
Not sure if srs or trolling.
Look at it this way....
If group survives and you last better without support it's worth it.
No new content for a few months......really what do you have to lose? Easily make that money or mats back in time. can make a few hundred K back in a few weeks with minimal effort.PC Master Race
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Phinix1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »Only 300k gold worth of mats for 1/10th of 1 minor DOT tick worth of health, or 1/5th of 1% more mitigation?
Sounds like a bargain to me.
Aside from weapons, my experience has been that the difference between purple and gold is way too small to be worth it.
Not sure if srs or trolling.
Look at it this way....
If group survives and you last better without support it's worth it.
No new content for a few months......really what do you have to lose? Easily make that money or mats back in time. can make a few hundred K back in a few weeks with minimal effort.
Look at it this way.
What meaningful damage in the game (stuff you need a tank for) is so small that having 40 more health or half of 1% or less more armor mitigation is going to make any difference at all?
Even a minor DOT tick from a boss is close to 1000. That 1000 is going to kill you at the same time as the tank with fully golded million-gold-gear with 40 more health.
Totally not worth it in practical scenarios. Survivability goes up an average of less than 1 second over a hugely protracted fight projection.
Someone show me the math where it makes any meaningful difference at all based on actual incoming damage numbers and I will change my view. But 40 health and half of 1% armor mit makes literally NO practical difference at all.
Of course you can't underestimate the value of satisfaction gained by knowing your gear is maxed, even if it makes no practical difference.
Edited by Phinix1 on April 1, 2017 7:14PM0 -
WalksonGraves✭✭✭✭✭
✭Decisive is the worst possible way to increase your ult gen, defending is a far better choice.0 -
Oompuh✭✭✭✭✭paulsimonps wrote: »
Isn't that like .3% damage reduction? Truth is if I had extra gold laying around, I would. But I don't and raiding doesn't pay the bills like it use toXbox NA - Oompa
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paulsimonps✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ok forget the HP and Resistance, Remember TRAITS. Something like Sturdy, Infused or Divines gain great buffs from getting it from purple to gold. I run 8 sturdy and I always want that stuff golded out. And I think if someone ran Infused it would be a waste of a trait if it was not Gold, same thing goes for Divines. All purple to all gold for divines is a 7% difference of the strength of your Mundus boon. For sturdy its like having an entire extra purple pieces, cause you gain an additional 3.5% cost reduction. And if you run infused you gain 3% of the strength of the enchant per piece, and on a Infused Primatic for example that is huge.
So gold that stuff out.0 -
Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭Unless you are running trials why would you even use Ebon on a tank? It's ONLY unique ability is giving 12 players another 1000 health each. Oh, and the red balls. So, if you are not running 12 man trials with glass cannons that need that little amount of health, then you are not as effective as the tank wearing histbark, in a 4 man dungeon nobody is going to be impressed with 1k health.
Edited by Floki_Vilgerdarson on April 1, 2017 7:43PM0 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭WalksonGraves wrote: »Decisive is the worst possible way to increase your ult gen, defending is a far better choice.
I get it, but defending on the front bar and decisive on back bar is OK IMO ...WalksonGraves wrote: »Gold the shield if you really want something, weapon stats are meaningless for tanks and most set abilities don't increase enough to be noticeable. You really only need purple.
I do agree with this. My tank runs gold weapons/shield and gold monster helm. The rest is purple. She's really not quite ready for vet Trials or end game PvP yet.
Edited by Taleof2Cities on April 1, 2017 7:50PM0 -
Phinix1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »Unless you are running trials why would you even use Ebon on a tank? It's ONLY unique ability is giving 12 players another 1000 health each. Oh, and the red balls. So, if you are not running 12 man trials with glass cannons that need that little amount of health, then you are not as effective as the tank wearing histbark, in a 4 man dungeon nobody is going to be impressed with 1k health.
Well, lots of tanks run Tava's for the ult gen even in 4-mans, and since ZOS hasn't managed to add jewelry crafting IN 3 GD YEARS it isn't possible to get 2 5-piece bonuses if both are crafted sets.
So it is either use Hist and lose Tava, or use Tava and something like Ebon that has jewelry and get 2 solid tanking 5-piece bonuses on top of the monster bonus.
EDIT: Also Hist Bark is a pretty lack-luster tank set for PVE, especially for a DK tank. You want to be using those Igneous shields to buff/protect the group and regen your stamina from DK passives. It isn't that hard to just pop Shuffle on CD to keep Major Evasion up and get the benefit from another 5-piece.
Hist is only really good for tanks that are perma-blocking while learning mechanics. You really shouldn't be perma-blocking though.
Edited by Phinix1 on April 1, 2017 7:48PM0 -
paulsimonps✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »Unless you are running trials why would you even use Ebon on a tank? It's ONLY unique ability is giving 12 players another 1000 health each. Oh, and the red balls. So, if you are not running 12 man trials with glass cannons that need that little amount of health, then you are not as effective as the tank wearing histbark, in a 4 man dungeon nobody is going to be impressed with 1k health.
Most tanks don't build for dungeons cause they are so easy so they just run their trial build in there cause they are lazy. So yea that's why people run Ebon in Dungeons.0