Morrowind: now is a chance to show up a dragon!

geonsocal · March 2017

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Dragons were the most unique fantasy. dragons in ES:O please.

Also, Hi, I'm back.

slight edit...same point...

do argonians really shed their tale?

if so, what do they do with the old tail???

Tasear · March 2017

We will see it, but be unable to fight it till Skyrim "chapter".

nimander99 · March 2017

It would be cool just to interact with him... Doesn't have to be a battle or a raid or dungeon, could just be a simple side interaction in the middle of a quest arc...

Toraf · March 2017

Leave the dragons alone pls.

max_only · March 2017

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

I agree, dragons exist in this time period, but they are hidden, and rare, and have no interaction with man or mer, and will not be seen till around 2E869 with Tiber Septim, and that is only 1 dragon. Then we will have to wait till 4E201 to see another one emerge.

Dragons maintain relations with other races eventually like Nahfahlaar (allied with King Casimir II of Wayrest and others), Nafaalilargus (allied with Tiber Septim) and Pathurnaax - himself have his greybeards pets. ZOS can make it happen, and lorewisely if they want to. They have the pen and the paper, they just have to put their storytellers to work.

The examples you show are the same thing I said, as Nahfahlaar does not show up for over 300 years from now (ESO time line). I agree they are around, but maintain that they have no place in this era of the game.

Zardayne wrote: »

Zenimax shot itself in the foot when it chose an age that removed dragons from play...

Not sure what you mean by this.
Out of 10 TES games,, dragons are only in 2, Redguard and Skyrim.
And it seems that only the "Skyrim" generation are always the ones that ask for dragons.
Now, Lore aside, ZoS has already explained that the mechanics of the coding of ESO is a horizontal based code and not able to accommodate vertical mechanics such as flying, flying mounts or diving underwater. (See ESO-Live Episode 17, 05/08/2015). So no to dragon mounts also.

Off topic: I was so very disappointed when I couldn't dive in this game. So very disappointed.

On topic:

There is a talking dragon skeleton in Grahtwood.

If they give you more than that I'd be surprised.

Is it just scalies who want this? I don't get the dragon obsession. I like that dragons talk and can be quite witty/sarcastic but I don't understand the need to ride one or kill one.

What specifically do you want to do to/with this dragon in the game? Kill It? How anticlimactic. Pet it? You can't tame it, it's an intelligent being that would have to choose to fight for you. Ride it? Game engine limitations.

SydneyGrey · March 2017

Milvan wrote: »

Also, wyverns, wyrms, dragons, drakes etc are the same name for the same creature in several authors like Tolkien, Elder Scrolls lore, and many others mythologies including japanese, nordic, european(curiosly including the bible, where they are described as "serpent'ish" like D&D wyrms).

A wyvern has two legs, a "proper dragon" (as that one person was calling it) has four.

SydneyGrey · March 2017

crashen17b14_ESO wrote: »

My question, to all these people crying out for a dragon... is why? Why do you want a dragon in eso? What do you want with it? What do you want it to bring to the game?

Because it's different from what we've seen in ESO so far. Different is interesting. Different is good. New stuff is good.
However, if they never put a single dragon in ESO, I really won't care all that much. It'd be neat, though.

altemriel · March 2017

Milvan wrote: »

Hello comrades.

As the Atlas of Dragons (2E 373 by Brother Mathnan, prior ESO events) states:

"(...)
Known to Live
Ahbiilok - Sightings dating back to the early years of the Dragonguard throughout the northern Jerralls. Multiple attempts to kill him have failed. He is believed to be lairing somewhere in Morrowind.
(...)"

And Twin Secrets (4E 5~, by Brarilu Theran) also confirms that there is a dragon in Morrowind:

"In my life, I've traveled widely. I've seen Summerset Isle, communed with Psijiics, walked the shores of Akavir. I had hoped to see lost Atmora before I passed, that is not to be. I have even done the unthinkable. I have spoken to a dragon.

Dragons are said to be gone from the world. Yet I found one. Sheltered in the smoking ruins of Vvardenfell, I came upon it. My magic proved to be sufficient to defeat the beast. If that gives you cause to wonder, I will not deny that I was once a pyromancer of great skill.

Exhausted and near the end of my spells, I parlayed with the wyrm, offering it life if it would share it's secrets. Haughty to the end, it agreed to one secret for one life. I asked for it's [sic] name, but it told me it would rather die than surrender that. Instead if [sic] offered me something else. And that it [sic] how I learned how to defy the Law of Firsts.

So, since having dragons on ESO is completely lorewise , (check the both aforemetioned books and many others), I think that Morrowind is a excelent opportunity to show up a mighty dragon and giving us a epic fight with one of Alduin's soldier.

EDIT: Indeed, we don't need to fight it, even tho we fight it we don't need to kill it. Since the author of Twin Secrets himself bargained with the dragon, maybe the Ahbiilok likes to bargains his life for secrets as happened with Brarilu Theran. He is a survivor after all since he made out of Dragon War and the Akaviri crusades of the First Era. A petty dragon that sell secrets of his kind in order to be kept alive. That would be a great plot.

The Dragonguard is still out there, fighting for the empire (I believe) and waiting for the next Dragonborn, they tried to kill Ahbiilok before, would they just stop trying?

this

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/292707/to-all-people-who-say-adding-dragons-to-eso-would-be-lore-breaking-no-it-s-not-at-all/p1

altemriel · March 2017

souravami wrote: »

Is Rakkhat a daedric titan or a grievous twilight?

Or Iskra the Omen in one of the Undaunted Dungs

, imho daedric titan, a dragon turned into a daedric dragon

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Sibenice · March 2017

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

I agree, dragons exist in this time period, but they are hidden, and rare, and have no interaction with man or mer, and will not be seen till around 2E869 with Tiber Septim, and that is only 1 dragon. Then we will have to wait till 4E201 to see another one emerge.

Dragons maintain relations with other races eventually like Nahfahlaar (allied with King Casimir II of Wayrest and others), Nafaalilargus (allied with Tiber Septim) and Pathurnaax - himself have his greybeards pets. ZOS can make it happen, and lorewisely if they want to. They have the pen and the paper, they just have to put their storytellers to work.

The examples you show are the same thing I said, as Nahfahlaar does not show up for over 300 years from now (ESO time line). I agree they are around, but maintain that they have no place in this era of the game.

Zardayne wrote: »

Zenimax shot itself in the foot when it chose an age that removed dragons from play...

Not sure what you mean by this.
Out of 10 TES games,, dragons are only in 2, Redguard and Skyrim.
And it seems that only the "Skyrim" generation are always the ones that ask for dragons.
Now, Lore aside, ZoS has already explained that the mechanics of the coding of ESO is a horizontal based code and not able to accommodate vertical mechanics such as flying, flying mounts or diving underwater. (See ESO-Live Episode 17, 05/08/2015). So no to dragon mounts also.

I am Skyrim generation and I don't mind admitting it. I do not want to see dragons in ESO. I also don't think I'm the only 'Skyrim generation type' who thinks they should stick to the lore and this being part of the age of no dragons.

crashen17b14_ESO · March 2017

Got it. The reasoning for adding dragons where they dont belong is "dragons are cool and I like them."

The absolute most I could see them doing, and something I wouldnt actually be opposed to, would be if we got *hints* of a dragon hidden in some zone, in the background of more relevant events.

For example: remember that quest in Wrothgar, where you brave snow and wind and ice to make it to the top of the mountain peak to get a frozen artifact, and you can look down on much of the region through clouds and jagged peaks? I could imagine them slipping the silhouette of something massive, and winged flying through the clouds in the distance.

Or maybe when at the top of the Doomcrag at the end of the Rivenspire storyline, you see *something* watching the events transpire from the top of one those flinty crags.

That would be okay. That would be mysterious. That would fit the lore and not degrade the setting and focus of this game.

It would make sense for the oldest, the most cumning, the survivors of dova to bear witness to the pivotal events of this era, but not intervene.

Milvan · March 2017

@altemriel I remember that post, I also commented there. hehehe.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · March 2017

Sibenice wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

I agree, dragons exist in this time period, but they are hidden, and rare, and have no interaction with man or mer, and will not be seen till around 2E869 with Tiber Septim, and that is only 1 dragon. Then we will have to wait till 4E201 to see another one emerge.

Dragons maintain relations with other races eventually like Nahfahlaar (allied with King Casimir II of Wayrest and others), Nafaalilargus (allied with Tiber Septim) and Pathurnaax - himself have his greybeards pets. ZOS can make it happen, and lorewisely if they want to. They have the pen and the paper, they just have to put their storytellers to work.

The examples you show are the same thing I said, as Nahfahlaar does not show up for over 300 years from now (ESO time line). I agree they are around, but maintain that they have no place in this era of the game.

Zardayne wrote: »

Zenimax shot itself in the foot when it chose an age that removed dragons from play...

Not sure what you mean by this.
Out of 10 TES games,, dragons are only in 2, Redguard and Skyrim.
And it seems that only the "Skyrim" generation are always the ones that ask for dragons.
Now, Lore aside, ZoS has already explained that the mechanics of the coding of ESO is a horizontal based code and not able to accommodate vertical mechanics such as flying, flying mounts or diving underwater. (See ESO-Live Episode 17, 05/08/2015). So no to dragon mounts also.

I am Skyrim generation and I don't mind admitting it. I do not want to see dragons in ESO. I also don't think I'm the only 'Skyrim generation type' who thinks they should stick to the lore and this being part of the age of no dragons.

I'm sorry if I insulted anyone. That was not my intention. I apologize to anyone who may have taken offense to this..
What I was trying to say is that SO many of the "I Want Dragons" threads are from folks who only played Skyrim or WoW and don't realize that dragons are not a major part of TES as Skyrim is the only game that had them. (Redguard excluded).
It is such a "Dead Horse" here in forums and being a "LoreWh***e" about TES, I get worked up sometimes.
Thank you for calling me out on this so I have the chance to clarify and apologize.
Huzzah!!